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Offline graceseeker

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Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
« on: March 28, 2018, 03:53:00 PM »
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  • short answer: yes

    you can go to Mass every day and I hope you do

    you can even be a priest (hope u do if you are called)

    But if that is ALL you ever do, you are not a Christian

    that is a fact


    Offline Jovita

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    Re: Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
    « Reply #1 on: March 28, 2018, 06:51:35 PM »
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  • I married a God-fearing, Bible believing, Jesus loving protestant who is now (still all that) but a Catholic. He has been surprised, appalled, shocked, bewildered, etc at the lack of catechises of Catholics he meets. They not only do not know the Bible, they can not defend why they are Catholic. To his credit, he rejected the new church, novus ordo and is Eastern Catholic. It is because of that holy priest that I have reverted back, albeit through this Eastern door.

    He is a member of an apostolate whose purpose is to restore the true Catholic faith. 


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    Re: Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
    « Reply #2 on: March 28, 2018, 09:59:17 PM »
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  • While I understand the point you are trying to make, the way you phrase it is offensive and, basically, Protestant.

    Catholic and Christian are in reality the same thing and not opposed in any way to one another.  To be a good Christian one must be a good Catholic, and to be a good Catholic one must be a good Christian.  It's the heretical Prots who try to oppose Christianity against Catholicism.  If I do not learn my faith and live my faith, then I am NOT a "good Catholic".  Just going to Mass and doing nothing more does NOT make someone a "good Catholic" as you falsely claim.

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    Re: Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
    « Reply #3 on: March 28, 2018, 10:39:49 PM »
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  • According to the teaching of the Church, the heretics are actually not Christians. We should stop calling the Protestants "Christians". In this country, this is an effect of Americanism, a condemned heresy.

    Before Vatican II, the Magisterium was always very clear: No one can be in the Church of Christ without professing the Catholic Faith, being in unity with the Chair of Peter and receiving the same Seven Sacraments. All ecclesiastical docuмents used to refer to Protestants as the heretics, and the Eastern Orthodox as the schismatics, plain and simple. Nowadays, any heretic or schismatic who "believes in Jesus", even a "personal Jesus" is called a Christian. It should not be. Roman Catholics are the only Christians.

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    Re: Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
    « Reply #4 on: March 28, 2018, 10:48:45 PM »
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  • Graceseeker, simply going to Mass every day doesn't make you a good Catholic. That just means one sat their bum in a pew and listened to muttered Latin for half an hour.
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...


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    Re: Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
    « Reply #5 on: March 28, 2018, 10:51:58 PM »
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  • I married a God-fearing, Bible believing, Jesus loving protestant who is now (still all that) but a Catholic. He has been surprised, appalled, shocked, bewildered, etc at the lack of catechises of Catholics he meets. They not only do not know the Bible, they can not defend why they are Catholic. To his credit, he rejected the new church, novus ordo and is Eastern Catholic. It is because of that holy priest that I have reverted back, albeit through this Eastern door.

    He is a member of an apostolate whose purpose is to restore the true Catholic faith.
    I love Eastern Catholics and their devotion to the Theotokos. My faith was also revived when I started attending the Divine Liturgy and the Paracleisis to the Ever-Virgin Mary which began on August 1. I cried tears of joy. It was awesome.

    What is the apostolate to which your husband belongs?
    Lord have mercy.

    Offline Marlelar

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    Re: Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
    « Reply #6 on: March 29, 2018, 04:40:53 PM »
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  • short answer: yes

    you can go to Mass every day and I hope you do

    you can even be a priest (hope u do if you are called)

    But if that is ALL you ever do, you are not a Christian

    that is a fact

    If a man is a true priest there is no more he can give to be considered a "Christian", he is an alter Christus, that is the fact.


    If a layman goes to Mass everyday then it follows such a "good" Catholic is going for communion, if he takes communion then if follows he is going to confession, if he is going to confession then he is examining his conscience, if he is examining his conscience then he is trying to follow Our Lord.  If he is trying to follow Our Lord that means he is living the faith.  If he is living his faith by following Our Lord, what could possibly make him more of a Christian?

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    Re: Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
    « Reply #7 on: April 03, 2018, 01:55:51 PM »
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  • I married a God-fearing, Bible believing, Jesus loving protestant who is now (still all that) but a Catholic. He has been surprised, appalled, shocked, bewildered, etc at the lack of catechises of Catholics he meets. They not only do not know the Bible, they can not defend why they are Catholic. To his credit, he rejected the new church, novus ordo and is Eastern Catholic. It is because of that holy priest that I have reverted back, albeit through this Eastern door.

    He is a member of an apostolate whose purpose is to restore the true Catholic faith.
    it is a myth that catholics don't know the Bible! one propogated by Protestants, of course.
    true, maybe not 50% of them know the bible? But I have read the whole thing and heard the whole thing @ the Mass over the years.. If you go to daily Mass for 3 yrs you will hear virtually the entire Bible.. so any Catholic who has been going to Mass, assuming the person wasn't working on accounting problems during Mass or what have you... has heard the Bible


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    Re: Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
    « Reply #8 on: April 03, 2018, 01:57:02 PM »
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  • While I understand the point you are trying to make, the way you phrase it is offensive and, basically, Protestant.

    Catholic and Christian are in reality the same thing and not opposed in any way to one another.  To be a good Christian one must be a good Catholic, and to be a good Catholic one must be a good Christian.  It's the heretical Prots who try to oppose Christianity against Catholicism.  If I do not learn my faith and live my faith, then I am NOT a "good Catholic".  Just going to Mass and doing nothing more does NOT make someone a "good Catholic" as you falsely claim.
    thanks for proving my point
    your lack of charity in this post proves you are not a Christian (IMO)

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    Re: Can being a good Catholic interfere w/ being good Christian?
    « Reply #9 on: April 03, 2018, 01:58:12 PM »
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  • If a man is a true priest there is no more he can give to be considered a "Christian", he is an alter Christus, that is the fact.


    If a layman goes to Mass everyday then it follows such a "good" Catholic is going for communion, if he takes communion then if follows he is going to confession, if he is going to confession then he is examining his conscience, if he is examining his conscience then he is trying to follow Our Lord.  If he is trying to follow Our Lord that means he is living the faith.  If he is living his faith by following Our Lord, what could possibly make him more of a Christian?
    you are the o ne who brought up all that Catholic stuff.. I was referring to someone who only goes to Mass.. but even if a person went to confession, if he didn't mean it... well, I re-assert my case