Author Topic: Call for Calm in Debate (Read 1355 times)

John Grace · « **on:** February 06, 2014, 10:46:23 AM »

I had to laugh at politicians in Ireland calling for 'calm' in the 'debate' regarding bender's getting married.

What is there to debate about sodomites and those who love buggery.?

Like abortion, the politicians want to frame the issue into a 'debate'

Already Cora Sherlock of the Pro-Life Campaign is saying the 'debate on same-sex marriage' is a 'separate debate' to the 'debate' on abortion. They are both social evils.

I disagree and don't see any need to debate the matter. Politicians like Jerry Buttimer, a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ enjoys being sodomised but the majority of Irish people oppose sodomites and those who love buggery.

Alan Shatter, the Jєωιѕн Justice Minister is trying to change law on adoption prior to a referendum on 'gαy marriage'.

We need to be clear in our opposition to the fudgepackers.

BTNYC · « **Reply #1 on:** February 06, 2014, 11:22:19 AM »

Hear, hear!

We've had just such a falsely irenic call for temperance on this forum recently, from a certain notorius pufta calling himself (fittingly enough), "Judas."

soulguard · « **Reply #2 on:** February 06, 2014, 11:53:46 AM »

I wonder will Irish people put their money where their mouth is and actually vote against gαy marriage. Afterall, every person who does not fit in is "gαy". Every man that opens the door for a woman and does not make comments about her ass is "gαy". Every woman who rejects the advances of a random man is "gαy". That along with saying "Jesus" in response to anything that is said to you, is two things that annoy me about this dumbed down alcohol worshipping football culture. The people are quite simply Idiots and hypocrites.

John Grace · « **Reply #3 on:** February 06, 2014, 02:15:31 PM »

Quote from: soulguard

I wonder will Irish people put their money where their mouth is and actually vote against gαy marriage. Afterall, every person who does not fit in is "gαy". Every man that opens the door for a woman and does not make comments about her ass is "gαy". Every woman who rejects the advances of a random man is "gαy". That along with saying "Jesus" in response to anything that is said to you, is two things that annoy me about this dumbed down alcohol worshipping football culture. The people are quite simply Idiots and hypocrites.

I favour a gαy marriage. Like the word 'queer', we need to take back these words. Marriage can only be between a man and a woman.

Many will try and frame the debate. It's all politically correct nonsense.

A good question on how people will vote. Voting turnout for referenda is generally low.

The enemy have tried to 'normalise' sodomy. Liberals,who are not sodomites are nearly worse.

Obviously the sodomite agenda has to be countered, fought against.

Jerry Buttimer, a TD for Cork is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. He is the Chairman of the Sodomite branch of his "pro-family values" Fine Gael political party.

Emmet Stagg, of the Labour party was caught with a 'Rent Boy' in the Phoenix Park (Dublin) in the 1990s.

All of the parties are pro-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

People can't fighting against abortion whilst promoting sodomy and buggery.

John Grace · « **Reply #4 on:** February 06, 2014, 02:26:17 PM »

*Emmet Stagg.He is a TD (MP) for the Labour party. His brother Frank Stagg died on hunger strike in England in the 1970s. Frank Stagg knew Father Patrick Fell, who assisted the SSPX. Fr Fell died in recent years. Father Patrick Fell was imprisoned for his Irish republican beliefs.

Nadir · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2014, 12:02:35 AM »

Quote from: soulguard

I wonder will Irish people put their money where their mouth is and actually vote against gαy marriage. Afterall, every person who does not fit in is "gαy". Every man that opens the door for a woman and does not make comments about her ass is "gαy". Every woman who rejects the advances of a random man is "gαy". That along with saying "Jesus" in response to anything that is said to you, is two things that annoy me about this dumbed down alcohol worshipping football culture. The people are quite simply Idiots and hypocrites.

Soulguard, you are the first person to use the word gαy here, and the only one to use it incorrectly. Would it not be better to call a spade a spade, as John Grace has done? It is the language of the militant ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs. You are playing into the hands of the destroyers of Christian society by using such language.

Tiffany · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2014, 05:07:04 AM »

Good for you calling them out for changing the narrative.

Nadir · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2014, 06:23:10 PM »

Quote from: Tiffany

Good for you calling them out for changing the narrative.

Actually I didn't mean that, but I see what you mean.

I just wanted Soulguard to be more aware that who controls the language wins the argument.

It's like abortionists calling "killing the baby" "termination of pregnancy" which is a highly deceptive and misleading term. Pregnancies are always terminated one way or another! By spontaneous miscarriage, induced or natural birth and procured abortion.

Likewise, the word gαy is a political deception, meant to give the impression that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ people are light-hearted and carefree. Nothing could be further from the truth. Therefore it is a lie.

John Grace · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2014, 05:46:34 AM »

The joys of being a 'conservative'.

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/lucinda-creighton-has-reservations-about-gαy-marriage-29993167.html

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09 FEBRUARY 2014

Reform Alliance TD Lucinda Creighton says she has "reservations" about gαy marriage.

Ms Creighton said she was in favour of holding a referendum on gαy marriage, but declined to say if she would support it.

"I have reservations," she said.

Ms Creighton says there needs to be a debate about what equality means, including a variety of rights and treatment under the tax laws.

"Whether that involves changing the definition of marriage is part of that debate - not the only part," she said on RTE's Marian Finucane Show.

Fine Gael is committed to holding a gαy marriage referendum, but the party has yet to form a policy on the issue.

Taoiseach Enda Kenny has repeatedly refused to state his position.

The Reform Alliance has been accused of being conservative.

The group was formed following the expulsion of Fine Gael TDs and Senators from the parliamentary party for voting against the abortion legislation.

Ms Creighton's comments follow her colleague Fidelma Healy-Eames opposition to gαy adoption.

"Personally I have an open mind on the issue of gαy marriage. However, gαy adoption raises a number of concerns in relation to how we rear children and the dangers of commodifying children," she wrote in the Sunday Business Post before Christmas.

Tiffany · « **Reply #9 on:** February 10, 2014, 09:51:09 AM »

Minds so open they aren't using the brains The Good Lord gave them.

John Grace · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2014, 06:37:14 PM »

I don't agree but some in "pro-life" circles are already saying Ireland will vote for "gαy Marriage". This view is based on division among 'social conservatives' on the issue.

For many it is a separate "debate" to the abortion "debate"