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Offline Volodymyr

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Byzantine Churches
« on: March 27, 2017, 01:08:16 PM »
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    • Does anyone know if there are any Traditional or Sedevacantist Byzantine Churches in the USA? I know that the Ukrainians have begun one over there, but are there any here?

    And, has the Divine Liturgy of the Eastern Rite churches been changed as in the Roman Churches??

    Bless you for any response,

    Volodymyr

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    Offline tdrev123

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    Re: Byzantine Churches
    « Reply #1 on: March 27, 2017, 05:55:50 PM »
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    • Years ago I found a website run by a purported Byzantine rite Sede, but I could never find out where he said Mass, and his website is now gone.  I am not sure if he was a fraud or what.

    The Byzantine and Ruthenian rites have not been changed, at least not anything to defect from the sacrifice. 

    The maronite mass has become a version of the Novus ordo, they just introduced alter girls too. 
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    Re: Byzantine Churches
    « Reply #2 on: March 27, 2017, 09:26:26 PM »
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    • In what Maronite parish did you see the altar girls? I wonder if it depends on the priest? We have a very Orthodox priest and there are only male servers. From what I have learned, the Maronites are trying to restore their liturgy and rid themselves of the latinizations. I rejected the novus ordo and Eastern Orthodox and a Maronite parish was my only option. 
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    Offline poche

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    Re: Byzantine Churches
    « Reply #3 on: March 28, 2017, 02:31:50 AM »
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    • If you are looking for a sedevacantist eastern rite church why not try the Coptic Orthodox. They have their own pope.
     
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    Re: Byzantine Churches
    « Reply #4 on: March 28, 2017, 06:54:29 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on March 28, 2017, 02:31:50 AM
    If you are looking for a sedevacantist eastern rite church why not try the Coptic Orthodox. They have their own pope.

    While this may have been an earnest expression of Novus Ordo ecuмenism, it cracked me up nonetheless.
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    Re: Byzantine Churches
    « Reply #5 on: April 11, 2017, 12:35:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: Volodymyr on March 27, 2017, 01:08:16 PM
    Does anyone know if there are any Traditional or Sedevacantist Byzantine Churches in the USA? I know that the Ukrainians have begun one over there, but are there any here?

    And, has the Divine Liturgy of the Eastern Rite churches been changed as in the Roman Churches??

    Bless you for any response,

    Volodymyr
    All Liturgy changes in time. The Eastern Liturgies are very ancient and they have changed and adapted in some aspects, although not so quickly and clearly as the Roman Rite.

    Eastern Catholics are either fully submitted to the See of Peter or fully separated from it (Orthodoxy). But there may be in-betweens, though rare.
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    Re: Byzantine Churches
    « Reply #6 on: June 03, 2017, 12:20:32 AM »
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    • Quote from: Macarius on April 11, 2017, 12:35:00 AM
    All Liturgy changes in time. The Eastern Liturgies are very ancient and they have changed and adapted in some aspects, although not so quickly and clearly as the Roman Rite.

    Eastern Catholics are either fully submitted to the See of Peter or fully separated from it (Orthodoxy). But there may be in-betweens, though rare.
    Speaking of changes in the East, Patriarch Nikon of Moscow initiated changes in the Orthodox liturgy. There was a huge resistance. Today those resistance Orthodox are called Old Believers.    
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    Re: Byzantine Churches
    « Reply #7 on: June 03, 2017, 07:50:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on June 03, 2017, 12:20:32 AM
    Speaking of changes in the East, Patriarch Nikon of Moscow initiated changes in the Orthodox liturgy. There was a huge resistance. Today those resistance Orthodox are called Old Believers.    
    The survivers today are called Old Believers, the ones burned at the stake, martyrs. 
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