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Offline Meg

Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2018, 10:12:09 AM »
Quote from: happenby on July 18, 2018, 10:26:54 PM


Bishop Williamson spoke favorably, if I recall correctly, a few years ago about the reported eucharistic miracle in Buenos Aries. It may have been from his Eleison Comments. I think it was posted here on the forum, but I can't find it now. His view on the subject was somewhat controversial, but it seemed to make sense to me. 
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Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2018, 11:41:25 AM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat on July 19, 2018, 01:24:03 AM
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Typo --- Buenos Aires (you have Buenas Aires in thread title)
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Maybe you got mixed up between buenos dias and buenas noches, but it's ALWAYS Buenos Aires.
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Notice in the video, the Newpriest was told someone had dropped a host "in the back of the church."
Then they show a picture of the priest looking at a host lying on the floor near the Communion rail.
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Three problems with that:
1 --  The Communion rail had probably been removed from the church after the reforms of Vat.II
2 --  The host would not be near the Communion rail if it was in the "back" of the church, where there is no Communion rail.
3 --  If it had not been for the abominable innovation of Communion-in-the-hand, this would never have happened in the first place.
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Consequently, in order for this to be an authentic miracle and not a fake, God would have to be giving His approval to the removal of communion rails, the Novus Ordo corruption, and the distribution of Communion-in-the-hand.
Buenos/Buenas  Oops. That's what I get for taking French instead of Spanish.   Not sure the communion rail has much to do with it, but the back of the church finding is pretty iffy. Scientists proving that it is live human flesh, AB+ and matches the other samples of Christ's Body/Blood almost settles the question of authenticity.  But the message coming from there has a lot of implications, pointing to Francis in some way.  But if Eucharistic miracles bring grace and good, why him?  His conversion perhaps? The Consecration by him?  Last minute draw for conversions before the whole world explodes?  Why the NO? 
Questions questions.      
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Offline happenby

Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2018, 11:49:56 AM »
Quote from: Meg on July 19, 2018, 10:12:09 AM
Bishop Williamson spoke favorably, if I recall correctly, a few years ago about the reported eucharistic miracle in Buenos Aries. It may have been from his Eleison Comments. I think it was posted here on the forum, but I can't find it now. His view on the subject was somewhat controversial, but it seemed to make sense to me.
Yea, I don't remember what +Williamson said, all I remember is hearing about Fr. Pfeiffer's meltdown calling it phony.  It seemed at the time that FP was right, which was an odd possibility.  Guess its easier for the NO to bring the Real Presence than for FP to be right.  ;D
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Offline happenby

Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2018, 12:34:54 PM »
I came across this local 'Catholic miracle' while digging around.  It is also reported in "The Independent", "USA Today" and "Kansas City Star" among others.  Maybe there is someone on CI living in NM who could check it out?  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2018/07/18/a-virgin-mary-statue-has-been-weeping-olive-oil-church-leaders-cant-explain-it/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d80a2b3007aa
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Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2018, 01:26:35 PM »
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But if Eucharistic miracles bring grace and good, why him? 
Sacramental grace (from the Eucharist) is different than the grace from the Mass.
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Guess its easier for the NO to bring the Real Presence than for FP to be right.
The purpose of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is not to "bring the Real Presence" only.  Eucharist is the effect of mass, but not the purpose.  You can have the sacrament without having the mass.
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