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Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2018, 08:02:12 PM »
Look at who they use to confirm its "authenticity", scientists!, the same scientists who incorrectly date the Shroud as well as deny other true Catholic miracles.
Science cannot determine those dimensions of said miracles which are metaphysical and supernatural by measuring the physical properties of substances.
Gullible men are all to eager to credit such things as true. Father Pfeiffer was right when he said that miracles come from God to confirm the Truth, Catholic truth.

Who are we to believe in such things, Novus Ordo clerics?
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I'm not convinced you can so accurately blame the scientists. On the face of it, they are only working with what they are given, even if they have no faith. It is claimed the scientists were not told where the samples came from, and while it wasn't spelled out, such labs get samples every day from detectives and law enforcement, looking for credible evidence they can use in court and such. So as far as the scientists ostensibly knew, it was just another day at the office, so to speak.
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The thing that seems to be missing though, is they didn't mention if they asked the scientists how OLD the samples were. If it were a court case, the age since death would have been of primary concern. Maybe the lab report wasn't adequately relayed in the story. Maybe the lab report DID say what the age was and maybe that data point wasn't convenient for the story. A lot depends on who is reading and interpreting the lab report.
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But one thing is for sure. When Jorge Bergoglio "approved" the "miracle" it would seem he was not worried whether it could have been a hoax. It seems as though he was happy enough with the results THIS TIME. If there had been two previous "attempts" at "getting the miracle to work" as the description in my previous post above says there were, that puts Bergoglio in the thick of it, and then we have something else to wonder about: was he elected at the conclave because he had managed to pull off this big boost that promotes Vat.II with a so-called miracle that compares so well side-by-side to the miracle of Lanciano, of all things? (Nobody questions Lanciano -- but all they had to do was get all the same tests to succeed using Lanciano as the blueprint for success!)
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The Scripture quote 2Vermont supplied sure looks like a slam dunk. I wish I had come up with that one!  :cheers:

Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2018, 08:09:02 PM »
“Then if any man shall say to you: Lo here is Christ, or there, do not believe him. For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Behold I have told it to you, beforehand” (Mt 24:23-25).
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If there could only be some kind of CI trophy for show-stopping Scriptural insight, this would be a winner, methinks.
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Now we just need some nice holy cards made up with Bergoglio's image, the Buenos Aires so-called miracle, and this passage.
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Maybe a few website links would be helpful too. 
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And perhaps some photos of other princes of the Church who promote this and the other two in Poland would be appropriate. 



Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2018, 08:32:46 PM »
Aw shucks.  

If you open the first 2015 link I posted above it is interesting that I posted that this was the same Gospel reading of that day. Coincidence?

Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2018, 11:22:25 PM »
Look at who they use to confirm its "authenticity", scientists!, the same scientists who incorrectly date the Shroud as well as deny other true Catholic miracles.
Science cannot determine those dimensions of said miracles which are metaphysical and supernatural by measuring the physical properties of substances.
Gullible men are all to eager to credit such things as true. Father Pfeiffer was right when he said that miracles come from God to confirm the Truth, Catholic truth.

Who are we to believe in such things, Novus Ordo clerics?
The use of scientists is a valid point. Long before Vatican II the Church has referred claims of miraculous cures to doctors and  scientists. If an unbelieving scientist will certify that a phenomena is without scientific explanation then it must be authentic. 

Re: Buenas Aires Eucharistic Miracle?
« Reply #49 on: July 23, 2018, 12:18:51 AM »
Aw shucks.  

If you open the first 2015 link ? I posted above it is interesting that I posted that this was the same Gospel reading of that day. Coincidence?
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No, really! You deserve an award! That was great work! You just went down in history! We could refer back to this for years to come! 
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Now if you could explain what you mean by the second sentence, that would be nice. What "first 2015 link?"