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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2022, 05:47:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on March 30, 2022, 05:09:48 PM
    Please do name even one trad priest who advocates pot the way that forum members here do.

    Asked and answered already:


    Quote from: Mark 79 on March 30, 2022, 04:36:48 PM

    Good priests (plural) who don't deserve to be doxxed and subject to your hysterical mind-reading opprobrium.

    But you are welcome to remind us about your first named source:
    https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2015/oct/26/coeur-dalene-man-jailed-on-1-million-bond-suspecte/ 
    Good judgement on your part to cite such a wonderful authority on moral matters.

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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #31 on: March 30, 2022, 05:50:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on March 30, 2022, 05:10:29 PM
    It's not just what I say.  I got those distinctions from Jone, and they make perfect sense to me.  They're right there in proverbial black-and-white.  I never really thought much about the issue, since I've never used the stuff, until one of the early MJ threads here, so I looked it up in Jone, and what he wrote was perfectly reasonable and seemed unassailable.  I have yet to see anything here that comes close to a refutation of the principles he laid out ... and I don't expect anything.

    Why is it a sin?  Due to the loss of reason.

    Complete loss of reason is mortal sin ... unless there's a serious justification (e.g. extreme pain)
    Partial loss of reason is a venial sin ... unless there's a less-serious justification (e.g. to relieve anxiety) ... provided there's no risk of serious addiction.

    I'm not really sure what's so difficult to understand about this.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #32 on: March 30, 2022, 05:51:02 PM »
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    He was a pot advocate?
    Advocate = promotion = a lie.  You're using the wrong word.  It goes to show you have NO IDEA about basic, moral principles.  You should be ashamed, but I'm not sure your IQ is high enough to comprehend your error.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #33 on: March 30, 2022, 06:18:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 30, 2022, 04:18:00 PM
    Plenty of priests make the same distinctions as Ladislaus. 
    If so where are their articles? Not a one trad priest or organization article have either of you posted. And do not slither in your "distinctions" claim that we are talking about two old hippies taking one toke in their home hidden from everyone. You obviously have not even read the SSPX article.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #34 on: March 30, 2022, 06:22:45 PM »
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    If so where are their articles? Not a one trad priest or organization article have either of you posted.
    :laugh2:  You wouldn't understand the articles even if they wrote them.  Your pride blinds you to any deviation from your own perspective.



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    And do not slither in your "distinctions" claim that we are talking about two old hippies taking one toke in their home hidden from everyone. You obviously have not even read the SSPX article.
    Your preconceived notion of MJ being a sin, in all cases, clouds your view of the matter.  Your are biased beyond hope.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #35 on: March 30, 2022, 06:36:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 30, 2022, 06:22:45 PM
    :laugh2:  You wouldn't understand the articles even if they wrote them.  Your pride blinds you to any deviation from your own perspective.


    Your preconceived notion of MJ being a sin, in all cases, clouds your view of the matter.  Your are biased beyond hope.
    That is all that the writer above is capable of offering the readers. Nothing. I'd tell him to take this to the SSPX article thread, but it is a waste of time because this is all he is going to write.  
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #36 on: March 30, 2022, 06:38:33 PM »
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #37 on: March 31, 2022, 12:51:44 AM »
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    • If pot smoking is not a problem, then why hasn't any traditional priest said so? 

    Pot advocates can reply in all sorts of silly ad hominems if they like (as usual), but that will not answer the question. 


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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #38 on: March 31, 2022, 01:32:51 AM »
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    • They say so in private away from prurient, disordered, rabid, ignorant, illogical people as you exemplify.

    They do not bray about "leg spreaders" and "functionality." They do not reject traditional Catholic moral theology on intoxicants.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #39 on: March 31, 2022, 01:47:01 AM »
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #40 on: March 31, 2022, 03:52:10 AM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on March 31, 2022, 12:51:44 AM
    If pot smoking is not a problem, then why hasn't any traditional priest said so?

    Pot advocates can reply in all sorts of silly ad hominems if they like (as usual), but that will not answer the question.
    Simple question they have yet to answer. The ball has been on their court since I first posted the SSPX condemnation of pot smoking like one week ago, and they have not produced ONE article.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #41 on: March 31, 2022, 04:40:52 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on March 31, 2022, 01:32:51 AM
    prurient, disordered, rabid, ignorant, illogical people as you exemplify.
    Well, that lady is standing all by herself and kicking your butt, while you and your todies get every ounce of your "courage" from the gang. She is more of a man than all of you eunuchs put together. All of you would have run away to mommy long ago, under the vile personal attacks you coward's spew forth upon the little lady.

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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #42 on: March 31, 2022, 04:45:56 AM »
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    • Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 30, 2022, 06:22:45 PM
    :laugh2:  You wouldn't understand the articles even if they wrote them.  Your pride blinds you to any deviation from your own perspective.


    Your preconceived notion of MJ being a sin, in all cases, clouds your view of the matter.  Your are biased beyond hope.
    To be honest you aren’t too bright if you defend marijuana, Pax Vobis.  You are full of pride. You think you are smarter than most.  You think because you are a traditional Catholic and know this and that that you are better.  It is your pride that blinds you.  Get away from us, Satan.

      Tradhican and Meg,  you are going up against the demonic.  Only satan’s fools would defend marijuana.  It is Gluttony.  Cigarettes, over eating,  marijuana, cocaine, heroin, sex, etc.  Too much pleasure seeking. Only the devil promotes it.  He deceives people.  The devil has infiltrated from Rome to even traditional chapels.  These so called traditional Catholics might not be who they claim to be.  They do the work of satan by instigating and provoking.  They are dragging us down spiritually.  Let us not dialogue with satan’s fools. 

    If we pray the Holy Rosary and read our Douay-Rheims etc, we will be saved from these demons.
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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #43 on: March 31, 2022, 05:13:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 31, 2022, 04:45:56 AM
    To be honest you aren’t too bright if you defend marijuana. 
    People like that can't function in the real world, where the rubber meets the road, they are like deer in front of headlights.

    Where the rubber meets the road, the real world:

    Ladislaus and Pax Vobis types - Dad, is it Ok to smoke marijuana and snort cocaine? We'll son that depends.................and on and on and on, never coming to any conclusion

    Last Tradhican types - Dad, is it Ok to smoke marijuana and snort cocaine?
    Keep away from the stuff son, like you would a rattlesnake or the devil. Do not keep company with anyone that uses them. In my long experience, all the people I knew that smoked MJ, lost all their drive, and turned out to be total losers or at best under achievers. But even worse, it is really harmful to girls, for it opens them up bigtime to licentious behavior and they will take the men with them.  Sins of the flesh are THE Sin that takes almost all mankind to hell. MJ is a piece of dung. Keep studying, working, and improving yourself your whole life, and surround yourself with others seeking the same. Avoid pot smokers like the plague, all they are, are people that can't handle life's problems without running away to medicate themselves. Remember your parents and grandparents who lost everything they had quite a few times and brushed it off as nothing and went back to do it again. THAT is what our family is all about!


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    Re: Ban Marijuana Discussions from CI
    « Reply #44 on: March 31, 2022, 06:59:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 31, 2022, 05:13:30 AM
    People like that can't function in the real world, where the rubber meets the road, they are like deer in front of headlights.

    Where the rubber meets the road, the real world:

    Ladislaus and Pax Vobis types - Dad, is it Ok to smoke marijuana and snort cocaine? We'll son that depends.................and on and on and on, never coming to any conclusion

    Last Tradhican types - Dad, is it Ok to smoke marijuana and snort cocaine?
    Keep away from the stuff son, like you would a rattlesnake or the devil. Do not keep company with anyone that uses them. In my long experience, all the people I knew that smoked MJ, lost all their drive, and turned out to be total losers or at best under achievers. But even worse, it is really harmful to girls, for it opens them up bigtime to licentious behavior and they will take the men with them.  Sins of the flesh are THE Sin that takes almost all mankind to hell. MJ is a piece of dung. Keep studying, working, and improving yourself your whole life, and surround yourself with others seeking the same. Avoid pot smokers like the plague, all they are, are people that can't handle life's problems without running away to medicate themselves. Remember your parents and grandparents who lost everything they had quite a few times and brushed it off as nothing and went back to do it again. THAT is what our family is all about!
    My husband also says that these people can’t function in the real world.  Most are sloth.  On sundays they put on act of being holy rollers and in real life they embrace satan and his worldly pleasures.  Their children rebel.  Hard work is of God.  It in the scriptures. It’s in the Douay-Rheims.  Most Traditional Catholics have poor work ethics and even their children are lazy. I’m not judging.  I have seen it.  Many are looking for a handout instead of working.  Much sloth. 

    Let’s not make the same mistakes as our grandparents, parents and great parents.  Young people need to make God a priority over all things.  They need to pray hard and work hard too. 
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