Author Topic: Audio-"The City of God vs. The City of Man." (Read 2454 times)

Belloc · « **on:** September 08, 2009, 01:56:01 PM »

http://voiceofcatholicradio.com/walk,090906,the_city_of_god,unknown_priest_final,_30__min.mp3

The Voice of Catholic Tradition presents a sermon by a priest who wishes to remain unknown. The sermon is entitled "The City of God vs. The City of Man." He reminds us of the parable of Our Lord teaching us that the wheat and the weeds will grow together until the time of harvest, whereupon the weeds will be separated from the wheat and cast into the fire. The parable signifies the fact that good and evil will co-exist on earth until the final judgement.30 min

Elizabeth · « **Reply #1 on:** September 08, 2009, 02:51:23 PM »

thanks!

Elizabeth · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2009, 02:55:52 PM »

I love the priests who wish to remain unknown and little, but offer edifying sermons. More and more I love the humble ones without the politics, just teaching us the Faith.

Belloc · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2009, 03:05:48 PM »

Have listened and burned several of his sermons,,,near as I can tell, he lives in Kansas City area........not afraid to tell it straight...

Caraffa · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2009, 03:48:38 PM »

Great Sermon and fully Catholic!! :applause:

Chivalry, self-sacrifice, and modesty are needed even amongst Traditional Catholics.

The priest is Fr. Wolfe, FSSP. FE doesn't like him. :scared2:

A question though, how does one protect one's sister when she is secular/not Catholic?

Belloc · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2009, 03:52:39 PM »

Whether she is or not, principle still is in affect-if she is an adult, can do but so much.......FE does not like him? why?-too straight?

Raoul76 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2009, 04:53:05 PM »

Elizabeth said:

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More and more I love the humble ones without the politics, just teaching us the Faith.

Faith doesn't exist in a vacuum. Never speaking of political matters could be a way of lying by omission. Just give people a holy feeling, make them feel devout, and keep them blind.

St. Catherine of Siena lamented wars and got involved defending her side -- the correct one -- of the Great Western Schism. Was she too political? I'd say just the opposite, that she had courage.

As we know from the Apocalypse towards the end of time there is a Babylon that arises, and is it really holy to ignore the existence of this Babylon that I believe is on Earth right now? Or is it rather "humble" priests like this who are concerned with human respect and don't want to be too controversial?

I'm saying nothing against the priest who gives this sermon, which I haven't listened to. Just speaking generally. I can't help noticing that not many priests these days, even traditional ones, are really digging very deep. We are in an EXTRAORDINARY historical situation -- literally living in the age of Satan, with his governments having swept the whole Earth -- but hardly anyone mentions it.

Caraffa · « **Reply #7 on:** September 27, 2009, 04:24:33 PM »

Quote from: Belloc

FE does not like him? why?-too straight?

There was a Sermon back in January in which some of the FE crew accused him of, you guessed it, the J word. Why? Because well, what he said upset some modern sensibilities. To them, if its not compatible with my liberal bourgeoisie world-view than it can't be true and thus I don't want it to be Catholic. Its all about pride. One of those who disliked Fr. Wolfe's sermon is now on their way to Eastern Orthodox.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #8 on:** September 27, 2009, 06:21:49 PM »

Quote from: Caraffa

Quote from: Belloc
FE does not like him? why?-too straight?

There was a Sermon back in January in which some of the FE crew accused him of, you guessed it, the J word. Why? Because well, what he said upset some modern sensibilities. To them, if its not compatible with my liberal bourgeoisie world-view than it can't be true and thus I don't want it to be Catholic. Its all about pride. One of those who disliked Fr. Wolfe's sermon is now on their way to Eastern Orthodox.

What in particular did he say?

Anyway, fisheaters is not Catholic by any stretch of the imagination. There are certainly still some Catholics posting there, but no one can justly call the forum a Catholic site.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #9 on:** September 27, 2009, 06:24:24 PM »

Quote from: Caraffa

A question though, how does one protect one's sister when she is secular/not Catholic?

While admire the young men who protect their sisters and don't at all blame them for their dedication, sometimes they show a bit more zeal than I think is warranted.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #10 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:03:10 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Elizabeth said:
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More and more I love the humble ones without the politics, just teaching us the Faith.

Faith doesn't exist in a vacuum. Never speaking of political matters could be a way of lying by omission. Just give people a holy feeling, make them feel devout, and keep them blind.

St. Catherine of Siena lamented wars and got involved defending her side -- the correct one -- of the Great Western Schism. Was she too political? I'd say just the opposite, that she had courage.

As we know from the Apocalypse towards the end of time there is a Babylon that arises, and is it really holy to ignore the existence of this Babylon that I believe is on Earth right now? Or is it rather "humble" priests like this who are concerned with human respect and don't want to be too controversial?

I'm saying nothing against the priest who gives this sermon, which I haven't listened to. Just speaking generally. I can't help noticing that not many priests these days, even traditional ones, are really digging very deep. We are in an EXTRAORDINARY historical situation -- literally living in the age of Satan, with his governments having swept the whole Earth -- but hardly anyone mentions it.

Well too bad you don't like Malachi Martin. He was all about what you call digging deep, and all of what you described above.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #11 on:** September 27, 2009, 07:12:08 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Elizabeth said:
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More and more I love the humble ones without the politics, just teaching us the Faith.

Faith doesn't exist in a vacuum. Never speaking of political matters could be a way of lying by omission. Just give people a holy feeling, make them feel devout, and keep them blind.

St. Catherine of Siena lamented wars and got involved defending her side -- the correct one -- of the Great Western Schism. Was she too political? I'd say just the opposite, that she had courage.

As we know from the Apocalypse towards the end of time there is a Babylon that arises, and is it really holy to ignore the existence of this Babylon that I believe is on Earth right now? Or is it rather "humble" priests like this who are concerned with human respect and don't want to be too controversial?

I'm saying nothing against the priest who gives this sermon, which I haven't listened to. Just speaking generally. I can't help noticing that not many priests these days, even traditional ones, are really digging very deep. We are in an EXTRAORDINARY historical situation -- literally living in the age of Satan, with his governments having swept the whole Earth -- but hardly anyone mentions it.

I agree with you, but priests must be very careful. Even if the priest is 100% correct, which is very unlikely, he will be regarded as "crazy" by a good percentage of people who just have no idea of the world. It is important to give people the right literature, like Leon de Poncins, etc. Someone needs to update the works of the RISS, Deschamps, etc.

As for an FSSP priest talking about conspiracy. Well, that seems highly unlikely. Certainly if any superiors found about it he would be in trouble.

Caraffa · « **Reply #12 on:** September 27, 2009, 09:11:27 PM »

Quote from: Telesphorus

Quote from: Caraffa
Quote from: Belloc
FE does not like him? why?-too straight?

There was a Sermon back in January in which some of the FE crew accused him of, you guessed it, the J word. Why? Because well, what he said upset some modern sensibilities. To them, if its not compatible with my liberal bourgeoisie world-view than it can't be true and thus I don't want it to be Catholic. Its all about pride. One of those who disliked Fr. Wolfe's sermon is now on their way to Eastern Orthodox.

What in particular did he say?

Here is the sermon: Holy Families Just Don't Happen.

And here is the thread: Disturbing Sunday Sermon

Note: This same person seems to have been of the "smells and bells" mentality. He is now on his way to EO. Also notice the way he uses the word "I".

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Anyway, fisheaters is not Catholic by any stretch of the imagination. There are certainly still some Catholics posting there, but no one can justly call the forum a Catholic site.

No disagreements here. I just wish they had the honesty and humility to admit it.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #13 on:** September 27, 2009, 09:23:53 PM »

Well, I think it is extreme to say one should not look a woman in the eyes.

I understand it why it concerns the priest. And there is truth to warning about it. But that is rigorism to say one should not look in the eyes a girl one is courting.

I understand what the priest is getting at though. Yes, it's good advice, but easy to take badly.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #14 on:** September 27, 2009, 09:34:04 PM »

1956:

Kissing is a sin.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,824439,00.html

Yes, I think it's clear it's sinful to kiss a girl on the lips before marriage. In most all cases.

Author Topic: Audio-&quot;The City of God vs. The City of Man.&quot; (Read 2454 times)

Author Topic: Audio-"The City of God vs. The City of Man." (Read 2454 times)