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Offline Truth is Eternal

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  • A heretic who knows I am a Traditional Catholic will ask me for my opinion on certain subjects and when I tell him my opinion he gets angry and claims I don't have love in me. If I would avoid the subject because I know he will just get angry he then acts as if I am a stuck-up know-it-all and that I won't prove my position. When I offer to give him historical evidence proving my stance he claims his religion does not allow him to engage.

    Today the guy at work was complaining about the number of deaths reported in breast cancer commercials. His wife had breast cancer and a gal at work is retiring at 40 years old because of a potentially deadly form of breast cancer she has. I said to him, "A person who is on the road to heaven should not fear death.  Death should be something we look forward to if we are right with God. We die at an appointed time."

    He then got very angry and claimed I don't have love in me. For the next five minutes he gave me  :reading: a rambling love one another sermon without giving me any evidence to support his religion of humanism. The only basis for his evidence was Catholic scripture.  :pop:

    I told him he is a heretic and if Christ were alive toady in the flesh he would want Christ crucified and that is not true love. True love is wanting people you know get to heaven.

    Even if I just sit quiet in the corner I get in trouble because I am setting a Traditional Catholic example.
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    Offline Stephen Francis

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    « Reply #1 on: October 25, 2011, 09:41:55 PM »
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  • Just remember that the Rock is what stood firm after the storms, not the shifting sand.

    Let them rant... one day, they will be flocking to the first priest they can find, because after all the Novus loony-business and commie secular humanism has failed yet again, they will need the truths they conveniently rejected in the past.

    Be prayerful, keep walking in love and staying in the state of grace so far as it in your power lies, and you will be needed and called for in due time.

    Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon.

    Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
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    Offline Zenith

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    « Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 01:42:57 AM »
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  • Quote from: Truth is Eternal
    A heretic who knows I am a Traditional Catholic will ask me for my opinion on certain subjects and when I tell him my opinion he gets angry and claims I don't have love in me.


    I think part of the problem may be in the way you approach them. Even if someone is a heretic and has no clue, labelling someone a heretic will not help the situation because they will automatically think you are a bigot and won't listen to what you have to say.

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    If I would avoid the subject because I know he will just get angry he then acts as if I am a stuck-up know-it-all and that I won't prove my position. When I offer to give him historical evidence proving my stance he claims his religion does not allow him to engage.


    If you explain to him in a charitable manner and he still is unreasonable, then the best thing is to remain silent and perhaps explain to him that you will only explain to him if he listens and is open to the truth. If he is just goading you for his own pleasure then the best thing is to remain silent.

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    Today the guy at work was complaining about the number of deaths reported in breast cancer commercials. His wife had breast cancer and a gal at work is retiring at 40 years old because of a potentially deadly form of breast cancer she has. I said to him, "A person who is on the road to heaven should not fear death.  Death should be something we look forward to if we are right with God. We die at an appointed time."

    He then got very angry and claimed I don't have love in me. For the next five minutes he gave me  :reading: a rambling love one another sermon without giving me any evidence to support his religion of humanism. The only basis for his evidence was Catholic scripture.  :pop:

    I told him he is a heretic and if Christ were alive toady in the flesh he would want Christ crucified and that is not true love. True love is wanting people you know get to heaven.

    Even if I just sit quiet in the corner I get in trouble because I am setting a Traditional Catholic example.


    These type of people are generally closed and unless I see that they are willing to listen, I don't say much.

    The best thing you can do is pray for him and be charitable and if he is open to discuss, explain to him as best you can. These opportunities are good for learning our own faith too.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 04:09:10 PM »
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    Today the guy at work was complaining about the number of deaths reported in breast cancer commercials. His wife had breast cancer and a gal at work is retiring at 40 years old because of a potentially deadly form of breast cancer she has. I said to him, "A person who is on the road to heaven should not fear death.  Death should be something we look forward to if we are right with God. We die at an appointed time."



    Truth is Eternal,

    You say that this man's wife had cancer.  Did she die?  Is she in remission?  If she died, he may not be ready to hear the types of thoughts that you brought up to him in the midst of his grief.  If his wife is alive and seemingly well and in remission, he may be fully aware and fearful that the cancer may come back.  I would tread softly when it comes to this type of discussion.  It is very difficult even for professionals who are trained to help people deal with grief or the fear of losing a loved one to talk to people who have lost a loved one or who have a loved one with a terminal illness.  

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    « Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 11:10:52 PM »
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    Today the guy at work was complaining about the number of deaths reported in breast cancer commercials. His wife had breast cancer and a gal at work is retiring at 40 years old because of a potentially deadly form of breast cancer she has. I said to him, "A person who is on the road to heaven should not fear death.  Death should be something we look forward to if we are right with God. We die at an appointed time."



    Truth is Eternal,

    You say that this man's wife had cancer.  Did she die?  Is she in remission?  If she died, he may not be ready to hear the types of thoughts that you brought up to him in the midst of his grief.  If his wife is alive and seemingly well and in remission, he may be fully aware and fearful that the cancer may come back.  I would tread softly when it comes to this type of discussion.  It is very difficult even for professionals who are trained to help people deal with grief or the fear of losing a loved one to talk to people who have lost a loved one or who have a loved one with a terminal illness.  


    It has been over a decade since his wife had cancer and she is now fine.

    I believe this person is so afraid of death because he and his wife are not living in sanctifying grace. This guy is about 55 years old and ever since his aunt died this year he has been fearing his demise as he is realizing he isn't nearly as young as he used to be.
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