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Offline Pelele

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Are romanticsentimental songs bad
« on: December 17, 2013, 10:18:36 PM »
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  • I believe most if not all are straight up idolatrous, because most - if not all - say things like "I can't go on/live/exist/be/survive/etc. without you" and excessive and exaggerated things like that.

    If it is a male who sings, he puts the woman like the greatest thing ever and like a god and his only reason to be and exist. I think women are less excessive than men in this.

    I know most today are of course straight up immoral and pure lust, but i am referring mainly to the "old songs" like the ones from the 60's and 70's etc.

    What was the Church's stance on so-called pop music before Vatican 2?

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    « Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 03:08:16 AM »
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  • I needed this to jog my memory:

    http://www.allmusic.com/album/100-huge-hits-of-the-60s-70s-mw0000741117

    http://www.allmusic.com/album/40-years-of-jukebox-hits-the-50s-60s-70s-80s-mw0000216422

    So now that it's jogged, I can't agree with you, Pepele. My memory of the 60's was good clean fun. My favourite album which I played at the party for my 15th birthday was Buddy Holly. Now I'm not saying these singers were good role models but we were innocent and fun-loving.

    I can't answer your question, though maybe somebody else can.
    (by that I mean the question in your post, not in the title. The answer to the question in the title is NO.)


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    Are romanticsentimental songs bad
    « Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 03:10:18 AM »
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  • Normally bad. The passions they work up are the wrong ones, at the wrong time.
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    « Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 11:25:55 AM »
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  • Quote from: Pelele
    I believe most if not all are straight up idolatrous, because most - if not all - say things like "I can't go on/live/exist/be/survive/etc. without you" and excessive and exaggerated things like that.

    If it is a male who sings, he puts the woman like the greatest thing ever and like a god and his only reason to be and exist. I think women are less excessive than men in this.

    I know most today are of course straight up immoral and pure lust, but i am referring mainly to the "old songs" like the ones from the 60's and 70's etc.

    What was the Church's stance on so-called pop music before Vatican 2?


    Such songs may be bad, but not for the reason you mentioned.  It's called hyperbole, and is certainly an acceptable literary device.

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    « Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 11:41:23 AM »
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  • bad only if they have racy or vain selfish lyrics.


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    « Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 01:54:29 PM »
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  • Most popular songs are pure garbage, rot the brain and soul.


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    « Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 02:25:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: shin
    Normally bad. The passions they work up are the wrong ones, at the wrong time.


    this
    Club sandwiches not seals.

    Failure is always an option.  Just not always the best option.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 02:28:06 PM »
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    Most popular songs are pure garbage, rot the brain and soul.



    and THIS.  popular songs have no structure and no methodology, especially when compared to music of the Baroque period or Gregorian chant
    Club sandwiches not seals.

    Failure is always an option.  Just not always the best option.


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    « Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 05:46:19 PM »
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  • What Joe agreed above
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

     

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