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Author Topic: Are People Married In Non Catholic Ceremonies Really Married?  (Read 9537 times)

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Offline BernardoGui

Re: Are People Married In Non Catholic Ceremonies Really Married?
« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2022, 08:06:43 PM »
Thanks for all the responses but perhaps I didn't make myself clear.
In the following hypothetical situation...let's say I, or some other single Catholic gentleman,
were to meet a divorced woman who was not baptized Catholic, nor was their former spouse.
She had been married in a civil ceremony or whatever kind of pastor that wasn't Catholic.
Is she considered to have been never married and therefore able to date?
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Offline Comrade

Re: Are People Married In Non Catholic Ceremonies Really Married?
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2022, 08:26:29 PM »
Quote from: BernardoGui on December 03, 2022, 08:06:43 PM
Thanks for all the responses but perhaps I didn't make myself clear.
In the following hypothetical situation...let's say I, or some other single Catholic gentleman,
were to meet a divorced woman who was not baptized Catholic, nor was their former spouse.
She had been married in a civil ceremony or whatever kind of pastor that wasn't Catholic.
Is she considered to have been never married and therefore able to date?
18] [All marriages where both parties are not baptized] The Church's law does not govern infidels.  Such persons are capable of contracting natural marriages that are valid and lawful inasmuch as they meet the conditions established for validity and liciety according to whatever governing body to whom they answer.
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Offline Comrade

Re: Are People Married In Non Catholic Ceremonies Really Married?
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2022, 08:28:11 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on December 03, 2022, 07:24:57 PM
No.  Canon Law states that anyone who was baptized a Catholic, even if they were not raised Catholic, are required to marry before a priest for the marriage to be valid.  Obviously they are not guilty of fornication if they're ignorant regarding the status of their "marriage," but it's not valid in the eyes of the Church and therefore of God.
Thanks for the correction. 
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Offline BernardoGui

Re: Are People Married In Non Catholic Ceremonies Really Married?
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2022, 08:33:25 PM »
Quote from: Comrade on December 03, 2022, 08:26:29 PM
18] [All marriages where both parties are not baptized] The Church's law does not govern infidels.  Such persons are capable of contracting natural marriages that are valid and lawful inasmuch as they meet the conditions established for validity and liciety according to whatever governing body to whom they answer.
Just to be clear, I'm not trying to look for loopholes in Church law. Just trying to understand what constitutes a valid marriage outside the realm of Catholicism.
How could a Mormon marriage, or one conducted by a witchdoctor, or lesbian Episcopalian, or Elvis impersonator be valid in any way? 
Were any of Elizabeth Taylor's marriages valid? 
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Are People Married In Non Catholic Ceremonies Really Married?
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2022, 08:39:37 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on December 03, 2022, 07:24:57 PM
No.  Canon Law states that anyone who was baptized a Catholic, even if they were not raised Catholic, are required to marry before a priest for the marriage to be valid.  Obviously they are not guilty of fornication if they're ignorant regarding the status of their "marriage," but it's not valid in the eyes of the Church and therefore of God.

I question this. It would stand to reason that if this were true then all validly baptized Protestants who contracted a marriage would necessarily be in an invalid marriage. Can you quote the Canon that supports this ? 
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