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Are Certain Souls Born Damned To Hell?
« on: February 09, 2026, 06:15:12 PM »
Dear Catholics, I am an unknowledgeable young convert of a couple of months. I had an issue come up fairly recently when it comes to conversion. Are certain souls, people, born in this world to be damned into hell? As there is no chance for their soul to make it into Heaven, likewise as punishment for their parents?

I'm 17, I've lived a deliberately pious life with no knowledge of God until I was 16. A byproduct of the world we live in, which I was born into. My family are Godless, and there are no good churches in my area nor people willing to speak the faith, nor ability to reach the ones preaching the true faith thanks to demoralization and censorship. By the grace of God I was able to convert, finding great content by Bishop Williamson, Fr. Hesse, Fr. Altenbach, Fulton Sheen, and more I discover as time goes on.

This question may seem ridiculous considering my own circuмstances and my own conversation of faith. However, I'll lay down the groundwork for why I think this is the case.

A few months back, I met a young girl after she made herself known to me. Things were fine, then not. I spare the details but she was clearly demonic as I see it now. The Commandments were broken. I had enough of it and told her God Bless you. Then her brother reached out so I told him about all of the things she had done. Including things she told me, which was not all of it, I know.

Her mother is a pagan, was never married to her father, her grandparents are horrible, and her great-grandparents are Lutheran, which is the only way she has been to Church. Her great grandfather gifted her a "playgirl" magazine and betty boop memorabilia.

This girl does not have a good home life. She lives in an apartment in a city, unmarried deceased father, sad older brother who is a "rapper". Her mother is an adulterous woman who speaks about it closely with her daughter. Only has children who are half siblings, etcétéra.

So I wonder, if because of all of this, especially so early on in her life, she's incapable of converting. If she was born without a spirit as animals are, designed and able to function as a human being but with no capability to convert.

With so many young people in 2026 living a similar life I wonder how many souls were put here without the capability to understand as it would be unfair to them to have a conscience worthy of God, thanks to the atrocities they come from and were been born into.

Therefore this is a conclusion I've come to, I would love to read theological evidence for or against this reason.

Re: Are Certain Souls Born Damned To Hell?
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2026, 06:47:07 PM »
(...) So I wonder, if because of all of this, especially so early on in her life, she's incapable of converting. If she was born without a spirit as animals are, designed and able to function as a human being but with no capability to convert.

With so many young people in 2026 living a similar life I wonder how many souls were put here without the capability to understand as it would be unfair to them to have a conscience worthy of God, thanks to the atrocities they come from and were been born into.

Therefore this is a conclusion I've come to, I would love to read theological evidence for or against this reason.

Your conclusion seems contrary to the faith since it implies a positive predetermination to sin, and an unconditional Predestination to the eternal punishment of Hell, i.e., without consideration of future demerits, which is heretical.

According to the teaching of the Church, there is a conditioned positive reprobation, that is, it occurs with consideration of foreseen future demerits (post et propter praevisa demerita). The conditional nature of Positive Reprobation is demanded by the generality of the Divine Resolve of salvation. This excludes God's desiring in advance the damnation of certain men.


Re: Are Certain Souls Born Damned To Hell?
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2026, 06:54:05 PM »
Damnation requires an act of the will, committing mortal sin..so no one is doomed to be damned without their consent 

Pray for this girl's conversation. I don't suppose many have the benefit of a Catholic praying for them in particular 
 


Re: Are Certain Souls Born Damned To Hell?
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2026, 07:00:34 PM »
Your conclusion seems contrary to the faith since it implies a positive predetermination to sin, and an unconditional Predestination to the eternal punishment of Hell, i.e., without consideration of future demerits, which is heretical.

According to the teaching of the Church, there is a conditioned positive reprobation, that is, it occurs with consideration of foreseen future demerits (post et propter praevisa demerita). The conditional nature of Positive Reprobation is demanded by the generality of the Divine Resolve of salvation. This excludes God's desiring in advance the damnation of certain men.
Well said. It is difficult in 2026 to find theological material online so pardon my inference.

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Re: Are Certain Souls Born Damned To Hell?
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2026, 07:16:43 PM »
Dear Catholics, I am an unknowledgeable young convert of a couple of months. I had an issue come up fairly recently when it comes to conversion. Are certain souls, people, born in this world to be damned into hell? As there is no chance for their soul to make it into Heaven, likewise as punishment for their parents?
 Everyone who goes to hell chooses to go their by their own will, i.e by committing sin.

I'm 17, I've lived a deliberately pious life with no knowledge of God until I was 16. A byproduct of the world we live in, which I was born into. My family are Godless, and there are no good churches in my area nor people willing to speak the faith, nor ability to reach the ones preaching the true faith thanks to demoralization and censorship. By the grace of God I was able to convert, finding great content by Bishop Williamson, Fr. Hesse, Fr. Altenbach, Fulton Sheen, and more I discover as time goes on.

This question may seem ridiculous considering my own circuмstances and my own conversation of faith. However, I'll lay down the groundwork for why I think this is the case.

A few months back, I met a young girl after she made herself known to me. Things were fine, then not. I spare the details but she was clearly demonic as I see it now. The Commandments were broken. I had enough of it and told her God Bless you. Then her brother reached out so I told him about all of the things she had done. Including things she told me, which was not all of it, I know.
It is rash to call someone demonic because natural law (10 commandments) were broken.

Her mother is a pagan, was never married to her father, her grandparents are horrible, and her great-grandparents are Lutheran, which is the only way she has been to Church. Her great grandfather gifted her a "playgirl" magazine and betty boop memorabilia.

This girl does not have a good home life. She lives in an apartment in a city, unmarried deceased father, sad older brother who is a "rapper". Her mother is an adulterous woman who speaks about it closely with her daughter. Only has children who are half siblings, etcétéra.

So I wonder, if because of all of this, especially so early on in her life, she's incapable of converting. If she was born without a spirit as animals are, designed and able to function as a human being but with no capability to convert.
All humans have rational souls not animal souls. She can convert with God's grace though it doesn't mean that SHE WILL convert.

With so many young people in 2026 living a similar life I wonder how many souls were put here without the capability to understand as it would be unfair to them to have a conscience worthy of God, thanks to the atrocities they come from and were been born into.
 This is contrary to faith, every person is descended from Adam and has a rational soul.

Therefore this is a conclusion I've come to, I would love to read theological evidence for or against this reason.