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Archdiocese defies governor
« on: December 10, 2015, 12:42:34 AM »
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  • The Archdiocese of Indianapolis has gone forward with the resettlement of a refugee family from Syria, despite a call by Indiana Governor Mike Pence for a halt on the acceptance of Syrian refugees. Archbishop Joseph Tobin met with Governor Pence on December 3, and said that he had “prayerfully considered” the governor’s “request,” but concluded that the Church should proceed with its plan to help a family that had fled terrorists. “This is an essential part of our identity as Catholic Christians,” he said. Governor Pence said through a spokesman that he “holds Catholic Charities in the highest regard but respectfully disagrees with their decision to place a Syrian refugee family in Indiana at this time.” However, evidently seeking to avoid a legal confrontation, he said that he would not bar the delivery of state aid to the family. “I have no intention of interfering with the ordinary administration of state government relative to people who are legally within the state of Indiana,” he said.

    - See more at: http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=26899#sthash.atD4yVLZ.dpuf


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    Archdiocese defies governor
    « Reply #1 on: December 10, 2015, 06:34:24 AM »
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    The Archdiocese of Indianapolis has gone forward with the resettlement of a refugee family from Syria, despite a call by Indiana Governor Mike Pence for a halt on the acceptance of Syrian refugees. Archbishop Joseph Tobin met with Governor Pence on December 3, and said that he had “prayerfully considered” the governor’s “request,” but concluded that the Church should proceed with its plan to help a family that had fled terrorists. “This is an essential part of our identity as Catholic Christians,” he said. Governor Pence said through a spokesman that he “holds Catholic Charities in the highest regard but respectfully disagrees with their decision to place a Syrian refugee family in Indiana at this time.” However, evidently seeking to avoid a legal confrontation, he said that he would not bar the delivery of state aid to the family. “I have no intention of interfering with the ordinary administration of state government relative to people who are legally within the state of Indiana,” he said.

    - See more at: http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=26899#sthash.atD4yVLZ.dpuf


    These aren't families in need.  We are at war. These are terrorists unless the family is Christian.
    Also, this family has relatives already living here.  They should move in and get a job.  Instead, they are going on welfare.  

    Is this family Christian or Muslim?  
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    Archdiocese defies governor
    « Reply #2 on: December 10, 2015, 06:48:28 AM »
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  • These bishops and Cardinals won't defy the Governors when it comes to the Catholic faith and values.  With the amount of money that these dioceses are receiving, that they lie every time they close down a Catholic Church and school.

    Yes, they close down Catholic Churches while Mosques are being built in our own back yards.  

    Are there Americans still in FEMA camps?  What about homeless vets.  

    How can environmental issues be more important then world safety.  More peace and love from novus ordo hippies.  
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    « Reply #3 on: December 10, 2015, 06:57:31 AM »
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  • Syria is mostly Muslims with a very small Christian population.  
    These aren't refugees, these are invaders on a mission.  

    They are coming with cell phones, duffel bags of designer clothes, children have toys, and yet no one has any form of id like drivers license, college Id , birth certificate marriage license?  

    These people are lazy people who have been brainwashed to hate and murder while pretending to be our neighbors and co workers.   They meet at their mosques going into small groups of families.  Just waiting for the time to attack.  The are nasty rude people.

    Our goverment along with the novus ordo created terrorism.
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    « Reply #4 on: December 10, 2015, 07:01:18 AM »
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  • Thank you Pope Francis for encouraging these nitwit bishops and cardinals to take in terrorists.
    The Pope took in a Greek Catholic family while the nitwit sodomists take and support terrorism while further persecuting and neglecting their flock.
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    « Reply #5 on: December 10, 2015, 07:03:40 AM »
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  • When refugees come from South America, they work.  
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    « Reply #6 on: December 10, 2015, 06:23:51 PM »
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  •  Shift the useless to the hard labor in prison then they will want to leave
    soon and fast. If not make them work extra hard and no priveleges and
    see how long they will stay here under those terms. Not to mean to any
    in need but they must prove they are true to God not to terrorism in Usa.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 10, 2015, 08:59:43 PM »
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    The Archdiocese of Indianapolis has gone forward with the resettlement of a refugee family from Syria, despite a call by Indiana Governor Mike Pence for a halt on the acceptance of Syrian refugees. Archbishop Joseph Tobin met with Governor Pence on December 3, and said that he had “prayerfully considered” the governor’s “request,” but concluded that the Church should proceed with its plan to help a family that had fled terrorists. “This is an essential part of our identity as Catholic Christians,” he said. Governor Pence said through a spokesman that he “holds Catholic Charities in the highest regard but respectfully disagrees with their decision to place a Syrian refugee family in Indiana at this time.” However, evidently seeking to avoid a legal confrontation, he said that he would not bar the delivery of state aid to the family. “I have no intention of interfering with the ordinary administration of state government relative to people who are legally within the state of Indiana,” he said.

    - See more at: http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=26899#sthash.atD4yVLZ.dpuf


    These aren't families in need.  We are at war. These are terrorists unless the family is Christian.
    Also, this family has relatives already living here.  They should move in and get a job.  Instead, they are going on welfare.  

    Is this family Christian or Muslim?  


    All refugees who are being resettled here are entitled to welfare when arriving.


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    « Reply #8 on: December 10, 2015, 09:16:38 PM »
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    These bishops and Cardinals won't defy the Governors when it comes to the Catholic faith and values.  With the amount of money that these dioceses are receiving, that they lie every time they close down a Catholic Church and school.

    Yes, they close down Catholic Churches while Mosques are being built in our own back yards.  

    Are there Americans still in FEMA camps?  What about homeless vets.  

    How can environmental issues be more important then world safety.  More peace and love from novus ordo hippies.  


    We have been resettling refugees here for a long time and Catholic Charities is in the business of it. There is suddenly media attention to it. Look at all the Vietnamese that were resettled here and given welfare and housing while the vets who gave their youth, mind, and limbs in that war were thrown under the bus by the government and still are.

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    « Reply #9 on: December 10, 2015, 09:20:04 PM »
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    Shift the useless to the hard labor in prison then they will want to leave
    soon and fast. If not make them work extra hard and no priveleges and
    see how long they will stay here under those terms. Not to mean to any
    in need but they must prove they are true to God not to terrorism in Usa.


    Resettle them with the wealthy and give the children scholarships to attend the elite schools. That will end it right away.

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    « Reply #10 on: December 10, 2015, 09:49:45 PM »
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    Shift the useless to the hard labor in prison then they will want to leave
    soon and fast. If not make them work extra hard and no priveleges and
    see how long they will stay here under those terms. Not to mean to any
    in need but they must prove they are true to God not to terrorism in Usa.


    Resettle them with the wealthy and give the children scholarships to attend the elite schools. That will end it right away.


    How about just don't take them in...

    God defined the boundaries of specific races within their own lands at the Tower of Babel.  When the races come together and merge it is against God's will, it will lead to a one world order, of no culture, no heritage, no thought.


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    « Reply #11 on: December 10, 2015, 09:54:03 PM »
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  • The sad thing Americans are not allowed to have any say in these
    refugee resettlements. I heard it is a United Nations mandate that
    these refugees be resettled.
    Not all U.N. countries are  accepting refugees. Israel and Saudi
    Arabia comes to mind.  At Mecca, there are millions of tents
    equipped with air condition that mostly are unused and refugees
    are not allowed to use them even if they are Muslims.
    The ruling elites want constant racial conflicts and they believe
    that in a hostile environment their rule cannot be challenge.
    This is straight from Hell.

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    « Reply #12 on: December 11, 2015, 12:43:05 AM »
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    The sad thing Americans are not allowed to have any say in these
    refugee resettlements. I heard it is a United Nations mandate that
    these refugees be resettled.
    Not all U.N. countries are  accepting refugees. Israel and Saudi
    Arabia comes to mind.  At Mecca, there are millions of tents
    equipped with air condition that mostly are unused and refugees
    are not allowed to use them even if they are Muslims.
    The ruling elites want constant racial conflicts and they believe
    that in a hostile environment their rule cannot be challenge.
    This is straight from Hell.


    Everything started in 1965 - the immigration act that made non-whites allow to move to the US in massive hoards.

    Interesting that the 4 main sponsors of that bill were Jєωιѕн...

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    « Reply #13 on: December 11, 2015, 10:00:24 AM »
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  • The reason the Bishops are defying the Law is because they are getting
    BIG BUCKS from the government for bringing Muslims refugees. I bet
    not one will convert to the Catholic Faith.
    In the future when they become the majority they willl force Christians
    to become Muslims or lose their..............

    See how much these contractors are getting paid. All inflationary
    paper dollars printed by orders of the Federal Reserve Bank and
    adding digits on the computer.

    You will never get this news even from FOX. You have to go to
    alternative news that is on the internet.


    There are NINE Major Contractors Paid Big Gov Bucks to bring in Muslims

     Posted By: RumorMail [Send E-Mail]
     Date: Tuesday, 8-Dec-2015 18:03:05  






     YOUR Tax Dollars hard at Work!!

     These are the nine major contractors the US State Department and the Office of Refugee Resettlement (HHS) fund. They call them Voluntary Agencies (VOLAGs) which is such a joke considering the large amount of federal funding that flows to each one! There are approximately 350 subcontractors in 180 cities working under the nine biggies.

     We did not include the two new contractors primarily responsible for the ‘unaccompanied minors.’

    Church World Service
     (From 2012 Form 990)

     Total revenue: $76,185,774
     Govt. grants and contracts: $45,431,781
     Percent taxpayer funded: 60%
     Top salary: $286,000 (Top salaries throughout include benefits and income from related activities)

     Ethiopian Community Development Council (secular)
     (From 2012 Form 990)

     Total revenue: $15,244,802
     Govt. grants: $14,609,687
     Percent taxpayer funded: 96%
     Top salary: $233,228

     Episcopal Migration Ministries

     This gets tricky. Apparently EMM (or now known as Domestic and Foreign Missionary Society of the Protestant Episcopal Church of America), does not produce a Form 990 (no response from them to a recent inquiry was received) nor do they publish their federal income in their annual report.

     The only accounting we could find is an independent auditor’s report that reveals they received $17,365,325 from the federal government for their refugee program in 2012.

     Further examination by a qualified accountant would be needed to find out how they spent the $17 million.

     Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society
     (From 2012 Form 990 for HIAS, Inc. Can’t be found at Guidestar under its full name only as HIAS,Inc, just one of those things that makes tracking these VOLAGs very difficult. LOL! we have learned that they have dropped the “Hebrew” from their name.)

     Total revenue: $25,418,714
     Govt. grants and contracts (including travel loan income): $15,426,116
     Percent taxpayer funded: 61%
     Top salary: $323,162

     International Rescue Committee (secular)
     (From 2012 Form 990)

     Total revenue: $456,122,865
     Govt. grants and contracts (including travel loan income): $332,271,151
     Percent taxpayer funded: 73%
     Top salary: $485,321

     US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants (secular)
     (From 2012 Form 990)

     Total revenue: $39,205,548
     Govt. grants and contracts: $38,817,939
     Percent taxpayer funded: 99%
     Top salary: $289,192

     Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service
     (From 2012 Form 990)

     Total revenue: $43,563,804
     Govt. grants and contracts: $42,047,935
     Percent taxpayer funded: 97%
     Top salary: $214,237

     World Relief (National Association of Evangelicals)
     (From 2012 Form 990)

     Total revenue: $56,842,649
     Govt. grants and contracts: $38,837,294
     Percent taxpayer funded: 68%
     Top salary: $211,651 (again the ‘salaries’ include other related compensation)

     US Conference of Catholic Bishops

     Last, but by far not least, is the US Catholic Bishops whose finances now require further explanation. The USCCB, by the way, resettles the largest number of refugees in the US with the help of Catholic Charities located throughout America. They make no effort to single out Christians for resettlement and in fact, in 2013 they were requesting that the US State Department bring more Rohingya Muslims from Burma (Myanmar) to America.

     Up until recently we could access their annual reports to determine their direct income from the federal taxpayer (for their migration program), however, it appears that since RRW and others began publishing the information, we are no longer able to access those reports.

     To our knowledge, no Form 990 is filed. Churches are not required to file 990s, so perhaps the Bishops consider themselves a church.

     Also, since federal funds go directly to myriad Catholic Charities around the country especially to states such as Tennessee where Catholic Charities and the federal government have complete control of who comes and where they are placed with virtually no state input (called the Wilson-Fish program), it would require very knowledgeable forensic accountants to follow the money.

     Here is the information we previously obtained from the USCCB’s 2012 Annual Report (it is a good thing we captured it at the time!).

     Total revenue: $70,975,237
     Govt. grants and contracts (includes over $3 million in travel loan income): $69,534,230
     Percent taxpayer funded: 98%
     We have no idea what salaries are paid in the USCCB Washington office.

     A billion dollars a year!

     That is how much we are spending (that we know of!) for refugee resettlement, here. That figure does not include subsidized housing, most healthcare, food stamps, other cash assistance, educating the kids or the costs to the criminal justice system!



       

     Did you know that Islam was banned from the USA in 1952.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 11, 2015, 01:00:29 PM »
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    Shift the useless to the hard labor in prison then they will want to leave
    soon and fast. If not make them work extra hard and no priveleges and
    see how long they will stay here under those terms. Not to mean to any
    in need but they must prove they are true to God not to terrorism in Usa.


    Resettle them with the wealthy and give the children scholarships to attend the elite schools. That will end it right away.


    Yup.  Put them in the backyards of all those Hollywood elitists who are whining about how we should intervene.

    How many does the White House have in tents on its spacious grounds?  How many are going to the school Obama's kids attend?

    If "good" Syrians or Sudanese, etc do not want their countries to be overrun by death obsessed fanatics then they must fight for their country.  For the tiny minority of Christians who cannot organize and prevail, provisions can be made.