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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Merry on August 27, 2018, 11:53:24 AM

Title: Anyone here know French?
Post by: Merry on August 27, 2018, 11:53:24 AM
I need the phrase "holy joy" translated into French.

For example:

"St. Philip Neri was known for his holy joy."  Or, "There was an expression of holy joy upon the face of St. Therese."


Merci!
Title: Re: Anyone here know French?
Post by: aryzia on August 27, 2018, 01:51:54 PM
heilige Freude
Title: Re: Anyone here know French?
Post by: St.Patrick on August 27, 2018, 02:05:17 PM
sainte joie
Title: Re: Anyone here know French?
Post by: SeanJohnson on August 27, 2018, 02:18:39 PM
Quote from: Merry (https://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?topic=49768.msg624059#msg624059)
I need the phrase "holy joy" translated into French.

For example:

"St. Philip Neri was known for his holy joy."  Or, "There was an expression of holy joy upon the face of St. Therese."


Merci!

“joie sainte” or “la joie sacrée” would be a couple options.  

There are others (go to DeepL.com, and type in your phrase, and it will spit out half a dozen options; much better than Google Translate).

Just be aware that in French, they put the modifying adjective AFTER the noun; the opposite from the English language, which places it before.

Above, the first option is a literal translation of the phrase you are after, but in French, the noun is often preceded by “la” (or “le,” depending on gender, or “les” if plural/many).

So for example, in French, you never see the word “tradition” alone.  It is always “la tradition” (“the tradition” in English), which sounds/reads awkwardly to us, but you get used to just ignoring the “la/le/les” (except for understanding singular vs plural and gender).
Title: Re: Anyone here know French?
Post by: Struthio on August 27, 2018, 02:38:20 PM
Examples from google searching for "la joie sainte" or "sa joie sainte":

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que la joie sainte de l'Esprit de Dieu surmonte la fausse joie de ce monde.
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Vous n'aurez pas, il est vrai, la joie sainte de venir environner l'autel au milieu de vos frères
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Que l'enfant Jésus fasse briller sur vous tous sa joie sainte, irréductible, inclusive.
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la prise du voile noir fut le signal de sa joie sainte et pure
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et sa joie sainte se répandit jusqu’à son père
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La joie sainte, la joie centrée sur Christ nous fortifie.
Title: Re: Anyone here know French?
Post by: St.Patrick on August 27, 2018, 03:21:32 PM

Just be aware that in French, they put the modifying adjective AFTER the noun; the opposite from the English language, which places it before.

there are exceptions to that, and this is one of them. It is, I do believe Sainte Joie. Not Joie Sainte.
But I am open to correction.
Title: Re: Anyone here know French?
Post by: bernadette on September 25, 2018, 11:52:42 PM
La joie sainte