Author Topic: Anyone ever drop out of college? (Read 4220 times)

Boloki · « **Reply #60 on:** September 23, 2013, 10:02:52 PM »

Right now i am taking 4 classes: Business Law, Finance, Biology and Metaphysics.

The first 2 are ok of course since it is all business related, although i believe sometime in the future i will be asked something in business law that will force me to "go against the trend" and restate the teachings of the Church which have been abandoned, and probably "get in trouble" by saying things such as sodomites have no right to "marry" one another and they should not be given any rights at all to propagate their filth and things of that nature.

But biology has probably been worse than philosophy so far. Both professors are novus ordo "catholics". Biology has been so far an indoctrination in evolution - probably in 99% of the classes he has said something about evolution. Today we had a test and one of the questions was "what is evolution?" I didn't hold back and wrote against it saying how it is a lie and totally false etc. I even wrote how i wondered how he claims to believe in God since evolution completely goes against God and the Church etc. I wrote how i wondered what he even thinks of the soul, if it evolved, and wrote that death came into the world by SIN, and how that goes against evolution. I had planned to speak with the professor in private but never did and now i spilled the beans in the test. I should probably go speak to him in private before the next class.

In philosophy the professor told us to read "The Way to Wisdom" by Jaspers. A traditional person i know read the first 12 pages of it and told me about the bad things it said so far.

Even if i confront the professors in private, what will that do? They won't change the course. They wont protest and quit their jobs. They've been there for years. I don't think they would convert either. That is what "the system" teaches and i dont think anything can be done.

So what will i do? Shut up and stand by listening to all that garbage day in and day out?

The philosphy professor today told us to read Fide et Ratio by un-blessed JP2. I've never read it but im pretty sure there must be heresies in it and that it must be filled with modernism and other goodies.

I have wanted to speak to him too, and show him Pascendi to show him how all his philosophy has been condemned, but i havent yet.

If i were to speak out in the classroom im sure that would be quite the scene. Probably the whole classroom would gang up on me, and then they would spread the news all over the university. I wonder if i were to make a stand, whether i would be expelled.

This is why i just want to get out of this place, because i cant stand being quiet while all these abominations are being told, and there are still many more classes ahead, which are even worse, awaiting.

I reckon were i to speak the truth plainly and loudly, i would get expelled anyways.

shin · « **Reply #61 on:** September 23, 2013, 10:45:48 PM »

Have you considered an Associates degree? Is that possible for you?

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #62 on:** September 24, 2013, 08:02:40 AM »

Those last two sound like intro classes (bio — 'what is evolution?', and jaspers for philo?); drop those and pick up a more accelerated biology class (or just do chem or physics), and a math. In fact, you could take two math courses (statistics and calc), then add a comp sci (python imo is pretty good), making it 3 maths, and there would be absolutely nothing about which to disagree with professor; all fun stuff to learn; all useful in life.

If you CAN make those changes, (1) thank God and your Guardian angel for it first, and (2) tell your dean you want to skip the philosophy requirement entirely, but offer alternative suggestions (a solid 200- or 300-level humanities course, maybe); most deans will work with you if you don't want philosophy. There are alternatives.

Boloki · « **Reply #63 on:** September 25, 2013, 02:08:33 AM »

I can't change any class at all - those were the only ones i could take. All the others were full and the schedule conflicted with the others etc.

Surprisingly, the biology professor sent me an email tonight regarding what i wrote to him on the test! I haven't see him since the test, and this is what he wrote:

Dear N.,

I would like to know if it is possible for us to sit down and talk about your grade and about some other topics that are somehow alerting me that something is not right.

In any case, I would like to take the time to send you some of my considerations regarding your comments (more than an answer to the question about Evolution).

I clearly understand your misconception about the apparent dispute between science and faith, especially when it comes to the Evolution topic, yet I can assure you that there has been absolutely no contradiction between Evolution and the Creator. You are right in saying that all the evidence in nature points towards the conclusion that there is a creator, and I would only add that Evolution as part of that creation also supports the presence of that creator! If you read the book of Genesis carefully and you learn more about Evolution you will see that the order of creation of the life forms is the same as the Evolution Theory presents, there is no contradiction whatsoever! Evolution only explains creation in more details, that is all!

Furthermore, you are wrong in saying that the fossil record does not support Evolution, it does, plentiful of times, the evidence is Overwhelming! Of course, there are few links missing, as one of the main ones regarding the origin of homo genus. But eventually it will be found. Even with the advent of Molecular Biology we are getting data that support the theory! The fact that we are 98% identical to chimps proves our ancestry and origin. But that again does not contradict the existance of a creator! Only a person with little knowledge of the bible and little knowledge of science can say something like Evolution and the creator are opposed and mutually exclusive!

And I am not surprised that for you it is not logical that I as a scientist believe in God, or if I put it in a different perspective, that I as a believer believe in Evolution and science. The short answer that I can give you now would be that I have evidence for supporting both and that the evidence is fairly conclusive! So, yes I believe that God was the creator, our creator, that They (Trinity) created nature and the natural laws among which the concept of natural selection fits perfectly and that concept is the core, main driver of Evolution! God does not contradicts himself N. He created nature and its laws and He will be using them for His master plan, a plan that not even you (or us) can grasp!

Now, He built all creation in six days and on the seventh He rested! There is no contradiction if you have the knowledge of Albert Einstein Theory of Relativity! Gods time is simply not "OUR time" N.! I have explored all possibilities of incongruities ever since my conversion process started 3 years ago, I have found none!

If you would like to find time to talk to me, I would be more than happy to sit with you and talk.

My hope is that you will find that time!

In the end N., "Everything is possible for one who believes." (Mark 9:23).

Boloki · « **Reply #64 on:** September 25, 2013, 10:01:02 PM »

Tomorrow I will have a showdown with the biology professor. I already prepared all that i will take.

Let it rip!

Graham · « **Reply #65 on:** September 25, 2013, 10:42:16 PM »

Quote from: Boloki

Tomorrow I will have a showdown with the biology professor. I already prepared all that i will take.

Let it rip!

Christ be with you!