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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Any Heliocentrists on CI?
« Reply #70 on: December 11, 2021, 08:30:53 PM »
Quote from: Kazimierz on December 11, 2021, 07:31:04 PM
With respect to a flat earth theory...

With the same kind and degree of respect towards yourself, i.e. zero, go get stuffed, dude.
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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Any Heliocentrists on CI?
« Reply #71 on: December 11, 2021, 08:37:50 PM »
Quote from: Marion on December 11, 2021, 07:01:49 PM
I freely admit and confess that I can't prove that Dubay was presenting flat earth before 2015. If you, Ladislaus, can, go ahead. Readers want to know.

That's very simple, Ladislaus.

The entire post from Lad to which you are here responding does exactly what you are telling him to do.  I may not agree with you on this issue, but I find it very difficult to believe you are so unfathomably stupid that you cannot even see what is plain to ALL -- Lad already showed Dubay was into FE way before 2015.  
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Any Heliocentrists on CI?
« Reply #72 on: December 11, 2021, 08:43:33 PM »
GladiusV, I think a large portion of CI members are mentally-challenged when it comes to reading comprehension.  I've seen it too many times.  They don't grasp what was written.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Any Heliocentrists on CI?
« Reply #73 on: December 11, 2021, 08:53:26 PM »
Quote from: Stanley N on December 11, 2021, 07:25:59 PM
Are they? I seem to be able to find plenty of FE stuff on the 'tube.

I also don't see a reason to censor FE stuff. Most people dismiss it anyway.

And that's why I don't buy that - if it's being censored at all - it would be censored to "hide the Truth".

Yes, they certainly are.  It's all debunking stuff.  You can find a thing or two here if you qualify the search, such as type in "Flat Earth Dubay".  But you type flat earth into a search engine, I just did it and scanned through about 7-8 pages and found nothing pro flat earth.  Same thing if you try to search on covid vaccine deaths or vaccines and autism.

Flat Earth youtube sites are regularly deleted without explanation for "violating community standards".  Not only Dubay, but several others have had their sites deleted without warning and without explanation.

Even when I can recall the video I'm looking for to narrow down the search terms, I can't find the stuff except if I go to the Russian search engine yandex.  Basically, the better and more convincing the video, the harder it is to find.

So you can debate Marion.  You claim that most people dismiss it, whereas Marion claims they're deliberately spreading disinfo because FE undermines the real truth.
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Offline Dankward

Re: Any Heliocentrists on CI?
« Reply #74 on: December 11, 2021, 10:34:30 PM »
Quote from: Stanley N on December 11, 2021, 06:16:48 PM
True, but it also doesn't mean Sungenis is a good scientist.
Do you think Sungenis is wrong in claiming Geocentrism is the true state of the universe?

Because as far as I know currently, we still can't prove either Heliocentrism nor Geocentrism empirically, as all of your observations are relative to our frame of reference - we'd need a second frame of reference to actually find out. If we ever landed on another celestial body we could find out - there are going to be landings on Moon and Mars in the next few years if all goes according to plan, it'll be exciting to get all those new findings for sure.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, I know I'm opening a can of worms by saying this, but I find it difficult to take Holy Scripture literally in scientific matters. Take for example this passage from Genesis 1, 14:

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14 And God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to separate the day from the night; and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. 16 And God made the two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; he made the stars also.
On first glance, this sounds like a description of Sun and Moon in the poetic style of Genesis by a terrestrial observer. As we now know, the Moon is only reflecting light and isn't a light source per se, so how can this passage be taken literally? The same problem applies to all the other arguments regarding flat Earth, the Earth dome, Geocentrism and so on.
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