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Any Heliocentrists on CI?  Are we all Geocentrists, whether FEs or Globetrotters?

At the very least, the Earth exists at the very center of the universe, unmoved. Sungenis and others have made a very good case for this. The evidence is overwhelming. All locations in the universe are not uniform or random. We are not in an "insignificant corner" of the universe.

So much of modern science and modern cosmology is about degrading man, and erasing God from the picture. It's very consistent -- I'll give them that. You can tell who is behind it -- the devil -- and of course his "syna***ue" on earth helps him to promote those lies.

If scientists can't prove the Earth moves with a single experiment (all the ones they've tried over the centuries have FAILED without exception), then why believe it?
To adhere to some kind of earthmoving cult with atheist, Freemasonic, evolutionists like DeGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye as high priests? No thanks. I'm a Catholic.

I haven't looked into the Flat Earth claims as much, but I certainly would have no grounds for dismissing them at this point.

Let's face it -- they lie to us about just about EVERYTHING -- I'm basically with Gladius on his recent post. That quote he posted: "We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

I guess I'm not going to stop at any arbitrary point, while casting off and rejecting their lies. I want to reject ALL of them.

I'm already an anti-s**ite, anti-vaxxer, etc. -- who cares what else (((they))) want to call me. Water off a duck's back. I'm immune.

As you know from the other thread, I believe the earth is the center of all creation, the universe, that it's stationary, and that we live on a flat plane with a solid firmament over it.

As Matthew said, they've lied to us about everything and replaced the reality of God's creation with a fabrication of their own, thus putting themselves arrogantly in the place of God.  They pretend to be the lords and creators of our reality.

9/11 was when I began waking up to the extent of their lies.  I became a geocentrist thanks to the work done by cassini here on CI and then Sungenis.  I've realized for many years that the moon landing was a complete hoax.

I was skeptical of Flat Earth in the beginning, but the more I dug and dug and dug, well, I'm now entirely convinced that we live on a flat plane with a solid firmament above us ... just as the Sacred Scriptures tell us.  For a while I "leaned" flat earth but just couldn't pull the trigger, due to the brainwashing, but when I sat back and looked at all the evidence, both ways, I realized at one point that there's just no refuting it.  It was shocking, the enormity of the lie.

I don't believe that globe earth was always a lie.  I think that a lot of people sincerely came to that conclusion.  But I believe that Admiral Byrd found where the firmament touched off, and that's when they scurried into coverup mode ... with the Antarctic Treaty, and then the space program, the only intent of which was to condition people into believing in globe earth.  Masonic and occult and Satanic connections to the early space program are well docuмented.  Shortly after the Antarctic Treat, the US started "Operation Fishbowl" (interesting name, eh?) and detonated nuclear missiles high in the atmosphere.  Another name for the operation was "Dominic Chama" (shell of the Lord).  They were trying to blow a hole in the firmament.