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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Any Heliocentrists on CI?
« Reply #95 on: December 12, 2021, 11:57:02 AM »
This is an entirely false statement. If you understood Sungenis's work at all you'd know he has multiple volumes of work and 2 docuмentaries proving it with empirical science alone.

Since you have decided to impugn both the veracity and intelligence of cassini, and many others by extension, and are clearly intellectually superior to most (all?) here, why not perform an act of mercy and charity and share, in distilled format, of course, what you so easily and profoundly grasp?  Thank you in advance.

Offline Ladislaus

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« Reply #96 on: December 12, 2021, 12:01:32 PM »
And that's one of the biggest reasons I care about the Flat Earth issue.  These atheistic scuм "scientists" have brainwashed people into regarding their science as absolute truth, causing people to doubt the inerrancy of Sacred Scripture.  Untold millions have lost the faith on account of these scuм, and I will fight them with every breath that's left in me.

If the Flat Earth movement can spread and gain momentum, a lot of people could be shocked backed into the corner of realize that Sacred Scripture was right all along and these pseudo-scientific buffoon were a bunch of lying criminals.


Re: Any Heliocentrists on CI?
« Reply #97 on: December 12, 2021, 12:18:46 PM »

Just in case that some readers might not have understood this comment.

Robert Sungenis is the guy who challenged godless modern physicists and astronomers. And he did excellently. He even managed to personally pull the leg of Lawrence Krauss and other establishment celebrities.

But Krauss and the rest of the establishment fought back, and sent us Dubay and the flat earth crowd. To destroy Sungenis. To suggest that Galilei was wrong, the Church was wrong, and Eric Dubay is right.

Unfortunately, many CI members fall for the flat BS.
Bold claim. I didn't really look at Dubay until after I had read a couple books on the subject, like Protestant Edward Hendrie (thoughts on him here: https://www.cathinfo.com/the-earth-god-made-flat-earth-geocentrism/edward-hendrie's-book/)
And I still don't put a lot of weight into the Dubay because he's new age

Reach harder, friend.

Re: Any Heliocentrists on CI?
« Reply #98 on: December 12, 2021, 12:28:51 PM »
This is an entirely false statement. If you understood Sungenis's work at all you'd know he has multiple volumes of work and 2 docuмentaries proving it with empirical science alone.

No asceth, he has not proved geocentrism by way of empirical science. The problem with determining whether the sun and stars revolve around the Earth as we see them do, or whether the Earth orbits the sun while revolving in a fixed-star universe as we are told they do, is one of relative movement in space. Only if we could position ourselves outside the universe and look in at it, would it be possible to see if any body or bodies are fixed, and only then could science know the true order of its many movements. But because we are confined within our place in space and cannot reach beyond the universe for observation and confirmation, man’s science cannot confirm or falsify how the universe works.This concept can be recognised through Kurt Gödel’s second incompleteness theorem; that full validity of a system, including a scientific one, cannot be demonstrated within that system itself.  Richard Dawkins himself has admitted: ‘It is not actually provable that the Earth orbits the Sun, but it is perverse to deny it.’ (Richard Dawkins, speaking on gαy Byrne’s The Meaning of Life, RTE, 18th Oct. 2015.)

Yes, since the latter part of the 18th century, empirical science, real science, has conceded that there is no way of proving for certain the true order of the universe - and consequently its laws - for the simple reason that science cannot verify Archimedes’s ‘one fixed point’ in space to determine the movements within it. This intractable problem for physics is called relative movement in space, and this simple relativity was once, and must become again, an accepted principal of sane reasoning.

Go ask Sungenis and he will confirm he has never proven geocentrism with the empirical method. 

Offline Pax Vobis

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« Reply #99 on: December 12, 2021, 12:37:01 PM »

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A reflecting light is a light.
No it's not.  That's a contradiction.  It's a mirage.  It's a lie to say that something which produces no light is a light.