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Offline Mizan30

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Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
« on: October 06, 2021, 10:26:25 AM »
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  • Dear all my brethren in Christ,

    I seek advice on ways to cure my life-long general anxiety disorder, and cure wounds which, when triggered every couple of months after a series of emotionally stressful events, makes it go berserk into forms of panic attacks, agoraphobia, burnout, isolation, quitting the faith and things of that sort. Do you have any recommendations on good catholic sources which can help this? Any good books, videos, practitioners you recommend? I live in Sweden and we have nothing here. Nothing, and I mean that. Not even my local priest knows what to do about this. And the only thing I seem to find online that is seemingly reliable to some degree is Fr. Ripperger's talks on psychology, but I'd like an alternative to that. Please, if you have any advice what so ever, that you can share with love and compassion for a suffering soul, please do. 


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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #1 on: October 06, 2021, 10:39:17 AM »
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  • I'm so sorry , I feel for you :'(

    I have received diagnoses similar to yours, 
    What I do, is shift my attention, so I make lists. I have small goals ( mine at the moment is first five Saturdays/ spring cleaning my home 

    I'm also trying to shift my attention on Christmas, organising food, guests, party games , what to eat Christmas Eve etc...
    I find this helps me .

    I try not to dwell on things, keep family close to me, read about saints , read about padre.pio miracles and sometimes look through charity shops for bargains 


    Feel better! 
    X



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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #2 on: October 06, 2021, 10:54:11 AM »
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  • Thank you, kind soul!

    Everything you suggested about shifting your mindset to planning, organising, making lists and looking forward to great future event, I have loved to do since always. Maybe it is a thing anxious people do... to regain a sense of control when their internal state goes haywire. I very much appreciate the ideas, especially those I haven't thought of doing.

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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #3 on: October 06, 2021, 11:27:36 AM »
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  • 1) Breathing exercises;
    2) Purposeful distraction;
    3) Be rested;
    4) Avoid caffeine when idle;
    5) Fixate on others;
    6) Have 2-3 drinks/beers.

    Explanations to come shortly
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #4 on: October 06, 2021, 12:46:18 PM »
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  • 1) Breathing exercises;
    2) Purposeful distraction;
    3) Be rested;
    4) Avoid caffeine when idle;
    5) Fixate on others;
    6) Have 2-3 drinks/beers.

    Explanations to come shortly


    1) Breathing exercises: You'll find that oftentimes, when an attack begins to "grip" you, you are not breathing, or beathing very shortly.  This can cause or exacerbate a panic inspiration.  To stop the snowballing in its tracks, and eliminate the panic quickly: Inhale fully and deliberately through the mouth (should take 3 seconds, and concentrate on the timing).  Hold it for a second, then deliberately and with concentration, exhale fully, concentrating on the exhale (which should take 3-4 seconds).  You'll feel immediate relief, but do this 3 times.  You can do it as often as you like throughout the day as needed.  The key is to make the inhalation/exhaling deliverate and last 3-4 seconds, and to make sure each is FULL.  It does somethin like secrete seratonin from the diaphragm which inhibits the panic response.

    2) Purposeful distraction: Always have something to do.  Anxious people tend to fixate on their conditions, which in turn can bring on the onset of an episode (depending on other factors).  So to keep the mind occupied on other things, have something to do: arts/crafts, work, sports, hobbies, housework, etc.  But make them physical activities, not intellectual.  Sounds like you have already intuited this subconsciously, from your post above.  The less you dwell, the less you will be afflicted, and over time, lots of distraction heals the wound, and you get stronger.  Ora et LABORA!

    3) Be rested: Midnight vigils are not for everyone!  Avoid naps throughout the day, in order to be able to sleep better at night.  Take melatonin if you are a bit anxious at bedtime (or, a coffee mug of warm milk, a tablespoon of honey, and a slice of butter all mixed in.  Smells very soothing, and the warmth has a relaxing effect as well).  Any tim eyou are not sleeping well, you are going to be on edge the next day.  Combine that with coffee and stress, and its not a good recipe.

    4) Caffeine is terrible for people with anxiety, unless you are going to be physically active, so as to "work it off."  If you are caffeine sensitive, its probably the worst thing you can do.  If you can't do without your morning Joe, at lest drink a light breakfast blend, mix with honey instead of sugar for sweetening, and add creme (i.e., takes more room in the coffee mug that straight coffee, so you ration yourself a bit).  If you are going to drink coffee while sitting on the couch and reading a book, you're probably going to notice th caffeine sink in, and this will make you nervous.

    5) Fixate on others: In such degree as you can successfully project the mind outwardly (i.e., onto others, rather inwardly unto self), you will find your anxiety proportionately dininished.  The best way to do that is to take up a Catholic cause: Pro-life activity; visiting shut-ins; prison ministries; helping the poor; volunteering labor at your chapel, etc.  The difference between this, and the purposeful distractions mentioned above, is that this takin up of a cause is a long-term activity, and it has a supernatural element to it which can merit you grace. Your purposeful distractions are daily/hourly activities, but your fixation on others is your contribution to the world (and supernaturalized, charitable to win you heaven).

    6) Have a couple drinks: Ain't a darn thing wrong with that, if you are temperate.  A couple glasses of wine before dinner, or bed, can make a difference.  Yes, it is self-medication, but so what?  

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    If your anxiety is also manifesting itself in your spiritual life:

    7) Intrusive thoughts: If you are attacked by blasphemous, sacrilegous thoughts, every time they ocue, say to yourself: "Jesus and Mary, save souls."  This has two effects: First, you cannot think two thoughts simultaneously.  It sometimes seems like you can, but in reality, it is just extremely fast vacillation betweeen one thought and another.  So if you deliberately replace an intrusive thought with a good thought, you hae just eliminated the problem.  You might have to do it 10-15 times per attack, 15 times a day, but the cure is infallible.  Secondly, because of what has just been said, if the intrusive thoughts are obsession, then you have just foiled the devil with this strategy, because every tim ehe attacks you, you are making pious ejaculations which are a cause of your sanctification.

    8) Scruples: Make your examination of conscience brief, and only go back to the time of your last confession.  Only confess mortal sins, or sins you think might be serious.  It shouldn't take long to think back to your last confession 3 weeks ago to know if you've committed any mortal sins.  This is a discipline and takes practice.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #5 on: October 06, 2021, 01:49:52 PM »
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  • I think Sean's advice is fantastic!  However, his advice is for normal anxiety.  Based on what you said below, you may need something more.

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    I seek advice on ways to cure my life-long general anxiety disorder, and cure wounds which, when triggered every couple of months after a series of emotionally stressful events,


    You mentioned "general anxiety" and "curing wounds".  To me, these are 2 different things.  General anxiety can be brought on by
    1) poor nutrition (add magnesium and potassium to your diet)
    2) poor sleep
    3) too low exercise
    4) stressful job, family, etc

    However, if you're talking about wounds, as in "emotional wounds" or some kind of abuse, then why not find a counselor or someone you can talk to?  If your anxiety is emotion related, then IN ADDITION to prayer, forgiveness, living in the present mindset, then you need to get your emotional stress "off your chest".  Talk your problems out; nothing wrong with that. 

    Don't go to a psychiatrist/psychologist but a counselor or somebody just paid to listen.  You don't need drugs (you might need some healthy herbs) but you *might* need someone to listen.

    Good luck.

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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #6 on: October 06, 2021, 02:34:51 PM »
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  • Goal 3 rosaries a day.  When you feel you are getting a trigger, don't overlook that demons like to pester you.  When thoughts come, remind yourself of "truth" to offset thoughts of negativity.

    For example: you know you are sorrowful of sin, you know perfect contrition is where it is.  Truth is you are on the road of salvation.  

    the rosary is a sacramental, it has the Powers of the Precious Blood.  This is what is needed, Precious Blood.  Rosary.

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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #7 on: October 07, 2021, 11:56:03 AM »
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  • Dear all my brethren in Christ,

    I seek advice on ways to cure my life-long general anxiety disorder, and cure wounds which, when triggered every couple of months after a series of emotionally stressful events, makes it go berserk into forms of panic attacks, agoraphobia, burnout, isolation, quitting the faith and things of that sort. Do you have any recommendations on good catholic sources which can help this? Any good books, videos, practitioners you recommend? I live in Sweden and we have nothing here. Nothing, and I mean that. Not even my local priest knows what to do about this. And the only thing I seem to find online that is seemingly reliable to some degree is Fr. Ripperger's talks on psychology, but I'd like an alternative to that. Please, if you have any advice what so ever, that you can share with love and compassion for a suffering soul, please do.
    CODA.org
    They are not Catholic, but God-centered.
    They have a class that starts up once a year which helps you understand your relationship with God better, and how you can help yourself to keep God the central point in your life.  You have to attend a meeting and talk to the coordinator about such a class as they don't advertise them. Talk therapy and self-help in one, free.   Win win.


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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #8 on: October 07, 2021, 12:16:01 PM »
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  • CODA.org
    They are not Catholic, but God-centered.
    They have a class that starts up once a year which helps you understand your relationship with God better, and how you can help yourself to keep God the central point in your life.  

    They can't give what they don't have.

    No Catholic could attend such a classs.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #9 on: October 07, 2021, 12:21:20 PM »
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  • They can't give what they don't have.

    No Catholic could attend such a classs.
    You don't understand and it is hard to explain.
    They help you to help yourself develop a better relationship with God.  They do not preach anything.

    A catholic absolutely can attend CODA.org meetings.  In fact, attending such meetings can help you understand your Faith better, deepen your Faith, and solidify your Faith.

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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #10 on: October 07, 2021, 12:24:49 PM »
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  • You don't understand and it is hard to explain.
    They help you to help yourself develop a better relationship with God.  They do not preach anything.

    A catholic absolutely can attend CODA.org meetings.  In fact, attending such meetings can help you understand your Faith better, deepen your Faith, and solidify your Faith.

    No non-Catholic can help a Catholic develop a better relationship with God, when the non-Catholic himself does not have a good relationship with God.

    How can someone who's going to hell help me get to heaven?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #11 on: October 07, 2021, 12:31:56 PM »
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  • No non-Catholic can help a Catholic develop a better relationship with God, when the non-Catholic himself does not have a good relationship with God.

    How can someone who's going to hell help me get to heaven?
    Hard to explain.  You would have to go and check it out for yourself.  

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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #12 on: October 07, 2021, 01:35:58 PM »
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  • My Swedish brotha from anotha motha, ask St. Dymphna to be your spiritual sister and prayer partner all of the remaining days of your life. St. Dymphna is the patron saint of people afflicted with anxiety and nervous disorders. Ask her to always be by your side, and to pray with you and for you. 

    Here is prayer book on St. Dymphna with imprimatur before Vatican II: 

    https://archive.org/details/devotioninhonoro00unse



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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #13 on: October 07, 2021, 02:45:33 PM »
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  • I think Sean's advice is fantastic!  However, his advice is for normal anxiety.  Based on what you said below, you may need something more.


    You mentioned "general anxiety" and "curing wounds".  To me, these are 2 different things.  General anxiety can be brought on by
    1) poor nutrition (add magnesium and potassium to your diet)
    2) poor sleep
    3) too low exercise
    4) stressful job, family, etc

    However, if you're talking about wounds, as in "emotional wounds" or some kind of abuse, then why not find a counselor or someone you can talk to?  If your anxiety is emotion related, then IN ADDITION to prayer, forgiveness, living in the present mindset, then you need to get your emotional stress "off your chest".  Talk your problems out; nothing wrong with that. 

    Don't go to a psychiatrist/psychologist but a counselor or somebody just paid to listen.  You don't need drugs (you might need some healthy herbs) but you *might* need someone to listen.

    Good luck.
    Not a doctor, not medical advice here, but that said, there are natural supplements that help many people gain better well-being:

    • Valerian root
    • 5-HTP (a variety of L-tryptophan)
    • Ashwagandha
    • Magnesium
    • Taurine
    • St John's wort (I can't take it, upsets my stomach)

    And just stating the obvious, many people swear by the various CBD products.  Haven't tried them myself.

    Don't eat junk, and stay away from refined carbohydrates and high fructose corn syrup as much as you can.  Indeed, "300 is the new 200", what was considered pathologically morbid obesity a generation ago, can now be found in abundance any Saturday afternoon at Walmart.  Go and see.

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    Re: Any advice for my debilitating anxiety wound?
    « Reply #14 on: October 07, 2021, 03:19:35 PM »
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  • Don't eat junk, and stay away from refined carbohydrates and high fructose corn syrup as much as you can.  

    Whoa, whoa, whoa:

    Surely you make an exception for this on your pancakes?


    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."