Author Topic: Anti Catholicism Condemned (Read 1616 times)

poche · « **on:** November 13, 2015, 12:52:26 AM »

In a recent address delivered in Sydney, Australia’s attorney general decried anti-religious bigotry “Religious freedom is every bit as important as political freedom,” said Senator George Brandis. “Members of the Islamic community are sometimes the victims of suspicion and hostility, directed against them by those ignorantly seeking to blame terrorist violence upon Koranic teaching,” he continued. “Members of Christian faiths-- in particular the Catholic faith-- are routinely the subject of mockery and insult by prominent writers and commentators.” Brandis then quoted a remark by a retired high-court justice that anti-Catholicism is “the racism of the intellectuals,” adding, “or perhaps he should have said the pseudo-intellectuals.”

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Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2015, 07:50:15 AM »

That's not what "condemned" means. Denounced, maybe, but not condemned.

Decried is a long way from condemned.

poche · « **Reply #2 on:** November 18, 2015, 11:52:31 PM »

A total of 70 people were victims of 64 hate crimes motivated by anti-Catholic bias in the US in 2014, according to a report issued by the Federal Bureau of Investigation on November 16. The report, which lists crimes motivated by the victim’s race, religion, sɛҳuąƖ orientation, ethnicity, disability, gender, and gender identity, found that there were 609 anti-Jєωιѕн, 154 anti-Muslim, and 25 anti-Protestant hate crimes committed during the same year.

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poche · « **Reply #3 on:** November 18, 2015, 11:59:32 PM »

The Holy See delegation to the OSCE has made a statement at a meeting on Hate Crimes.

“The poor attention given to hate crimes committed against majority communities and the fact that hate crimes motivated by religious bias or prejudice are under-reported and under-recorded …imply that the hate crimes against members of religions and, especially against Christians, are certainly more numerous than those indicated [in annual reports],” said Monsignor Janusz Urbańczyk, the Permanent Representative of the Holy See to the OSCE.

http://en.radiovaticana.va/news/2015/11/17/holy_see_hate_crimes_against_christians_under-reported/1187528

TKGS · « **Reply #4 on:** November 19, 2015, 06:44:42 AM »

The title of this topic is misleading. The statement poche published is not a condemnation of anti-Catholicism. It is a statement denouncing ant-religious liberty.

TKGS · « **Reply #5 on:** November 19, 2015, 08:13:17 AM »

Quote from: TKGS

The title of this topic is misleading. The statement poche published is not a condemnation of anti-Catholicism. It is a statement denouncing ant-religious liberty.

That's "anti-religious liberty".

The "i" key on my keyboard gets stuck sometimes. I usually catch it, but didn't this time.

2Vermont · « **Reply #6 on:** November 19, 2015, 03:27:42 PM »

I find the whole anti-religious liberty and anti-Catholicism thing ironic. Catholicism is anti-religious liberty .... well, real Catholicism is anyway.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #7 on:** November 19, 2015, 04:03:11 PM »

Quote from: TKGS

The title of this topic is misleading. The statement poche published is not a condemnation of anti-Catholicism. It is a statement denouncing anti-religious liberty.

Quote from: 2Vermont

I find the whole anti-religious liberty and anti-Catholicism thing ironic. Catholicism is anti-religious liberty .... well, real Catholicism is anyway.

Yes, how simple the world would be if only Christ the King reigned free.

It goes back to Vat.II, where the Freemasons got their way with pulling off Dignitatis humanae. It was the first item on their agenda, but got voted down, then it kept coming back like a bad dream until the bishops finally passed it just so they could go home -- big mistake.

So then Catholics trying to keep pace with what they think is the changing Church have listened to the Modernists hawking religious freedom and religious liberty ever since. It's one of the "big lies" that, when repeated often enough, people begin to believe it. Before you know it, it's showing up in poche's posts (as if that's any surprise).

It's longstanding tradition in the Church that no one has any right to practice a false religion in public. That's what the Mohammedans are upset about in Europe, because they think that Mohammedism is not a false religion.

poche · « **Reply #8 on:** November 20, 2015, 12:14:05 AM »

For me, religious liberty means that we have the right to proclaim the truth that is the Catholic Faith and to invite others to do also.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2015, 07:42:39 PM »

For everyone else in the world, if it means the same thing to them as it does to you, they would then have the right to proclaim their false religion just as much as you have to proclaim your true religion. So then guess who wins in that case?

Do you want satanists and Mohammedans and devil-worshipers to announce their false doctrine while standing next to you as you proclaim your faith?

Maybe you need some real world experience. Go to Paris, France, for example, and see what happens when you preach Catholicism in the public square with Moslems all around you.

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poche · « **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2015, 11:22:36 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

For everyone else in the world, if it means the same thing to them as it does to you, they would then have the right to proclaim their false religion just as much as you have to proclaim your true religion. So then guess who wins in that case?

Maybe you need some real world experience. Go to Paris, France, for example, and see what happens when you preach Catholicism in the public square with Moslems all around you.

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Anyone who is interested in the truth and sincerely open to the grace of God would be led to the Catholic Faith.
It might interest you to see some of the French Language forums. It is not uncommon to see things in the introductions like, "I am a moslem and I am interested in Christianity." or "I was born a Muslim and I want to become a Catholic, what do I do?" I have been in situations surrounded by Moslems and I have no trouble explaining the Catholic faith to anyone who is interested in listening to me.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2015, 11:49:39 PM »

So, how do you explain the Blessed Trinity to a Moslem?

And how do you tell a Moslem that Jesus Christ really did die on the Cross?

poche · « **Reply #12 on:** November 26, 2015, 01:00:32 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

So, how do you explain the Blessed Trinity to a Moslem?

And how do you tell a Moslem that Jesus Christ really did die on the Cross?

Before we do anything else we should pray for light from the Holy Spirit.
We can start to explain the Blessed Trinity to a Moslem by pointing out to him that when God speaks in the Koran, he speaks in the plural. He says "Nahnu" meaning we when He speaks in the first person. This same feature occurs in the Book of Genesis. God refers to Himself as "We" and "Us." This is a manifestation of the Holy Trinity.
Jesus died on the Cross because the Gospels tell us so.