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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: InfiniteFaith on September 21, 2015, 12:49:13 PM

Title: Another question about the death penalty
Post by: InfiniteFaith on September 21, 2015, 12:49:13 PM

Can the state pardon someone who committed a crime worthy of the death penalty?

Given a Catholic state who rules based on the Church's teachings, is it possible that a person be pardoned of their crime(s) and their name and reputation be restored after having committed a crime worthy of the DP?

It's my opinion that this is possible for the following reasons:

1) King David's adultery with Bathsheba, and near murder of her husband. This was not punished by death.

2) 1 Corinthians 6. Paul notes that some of those who were converting had committed crimes worthy of the death penalty beforehand, but were now JUSTIFIED IN THE NAME OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST (per douay Rheims 1899).

3) John 7. Christ pardons the adulteress.

I am leaning towards that those who repent and believe can be pardoned because they are justified by our Lord.

I bring this up because I sense that some on this site think I should be/have been put to death for past crimes.

Title: Another question about the death penalty
Post by: InfiniteFaith on September 21, 2015, 12:51:26 PM

I don't think a system like this would be unfair/unjust because I think God does not treat everyone the same.

Title: Another question about the death penalty
Post by: Matto on September 21, 2015, 01:51:27 PM

In a Catholic country the King is in charge. When someone commits a crime the King can punish them, even with death, and he can also pardon them if he wishes.

Title: Another question about the death penalty
Post by: poche on September 23, 2015, 10:45:36 PM

1) King David's adultery with Bathsheba, and near murder of her husband. This was not punished by death.

Actually this was punished by death. It was the death of the child that was born from David's adulturous liason with Bathsheba.  

Title: Another question about the death penalty
Post by: poche on September 23, 2015, 11:13:19 PM

Can the state pardon someone who committed a crime worthy of the death penalty?

Given a Catholic state who rules based on the Church's teachings, is it possible that a person be pardoned of their crime(s) and their name and reputation be restored after having committed a crime worthy of the DP?

Actually the state can pardon anyone they choose. If the person is not truly sorry for the sin that they commited then they will not be pardoned by God. It is possible but not likely that someone's name and reputation would be restored after they were civilly pardonned by the state from a capital crime. there would always be some people saying how guilty this person was.

Title: Another question about the death penalty
Post by: poche on September 23, 2015, 11:18:31 PM

I am leaning towards that those who repent and believe can be pardoned because they are justified by our Lord.

I bring this up because I sense that some on this site think I should be/have been put to death for past crimes.

I don't know what you have done in the past but if the state has issued you a pardon then you still have to answer to God. If you have perfect contrition then you can be forgiven. Maybe what you should do is go to confession