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Re: American economy just isn't built for families
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2024, 01:09:29 PM »
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  • By design ...

    Feminism was used to encourage women to go into the workforce, making for an employers' market, and also making it so they didn't have to raise wages so that a single wage-earner could support a family.  Now in many families women have to work in order to make ends meet, or else the husband/father has to work two jobs.

    That article seems to indicate that their big mistake was to incur $100,000 of student loan debt, which I've always railed against.  And of course that would be exacerbated if the $100,000 was used to secure a degree in art history or sociology.


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    Re: American economy just isn't built for families
    « Reply #2 on: January 19, 2024, 01:29:03 PM »
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  • The example around here is my wife's brother. He got a mechanical engineering degree. Not sure how much student debt he racked up, but it's kind of irrelevant, because:

    He got an engineering job -- a job in his precise field of study -- immediately after college, and he's had the job ever since. I think he added some kind of PE certification (not physical ed) to get an increase in pay a couple years after he graduated. If something happened to his current employer (highly unlikely; his employer does work for various utilities and taxpayer-funded organizations, etc.) he would be doing another ENGINEERING job soon enough.

    Another thing: he does "real work". He's not just a manager or someone that can be cut with no ramifications for the company. He does work necessary to keep the electricity running, water flowing, and other important infrastructure work. If a Great Depression started tomorrow, he'd probably keep his job.

    Long story short, no "starbucks barista" gigs for this man. His degree was worth the time, effort, and money spent.

    If you don't have such a clear-cut path between yourself right now and the career you want to be in -- don't bother with college. You have to know that college is required for the career you're going to work in. Don't waste a bunch of time/money only to find out you could have jump-started your career by saving the four years spent at college, and just getting some combination of certifications, self-study, personal experience/portfolio, apprenticeships, trade school, etc.

    Obviously if you can do some of your college during High School, get a bunch discounted, get some scholarships and grants -- well go for it. Not much risk there. But don't sink yourself $100K in debt unless you're going to be a Doctor at the end of it... And I mean medical doctor, not PhD in history or literature. The latter CAN get cancelled, poor, and end up working at Starbucks.
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    Re: American economy just isn't built for families
    « Reply #3 on: January 19, 2024, 01:35:46 PM »
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  • Families do not make "good" consumers in a globalist economic.ic model. A family consumes the wrong products and lacks disposable income. Further, families gravitate towards social and financial stability.

    Same-sex, multi-racial DINKS make for the perfect citizen-consumers in the Great Reset nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.
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    Re: American economy just isn't built for families
    « Reply #4 on: January 19, 2024, 01:52:06 PM »
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  • Maybe, we should have traditional communities helping eachother to build familes. But from what I've seen, alot of the young men are immature, and the young women... are just as immature, if not even more... Failure of fathers... period. We had our Bishop talk about weak dads,selfishness in singles not getting married.. Talked about materialism, selfishness, etc.

    Boy the church got real cold when he talked about this issue...

    We need to sacrifice our comforts... We are not doing this...



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    Re: American economy just isn't built for families
    « Reply #5 on: January 19, 2024, 01:59:38 PM »
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  • I agree. But each of us has to ask ourselves "could we do better?"

    It's easy to talk the talk. But how many are *willing* to get up and leave the screen (video games, social media, movies, Youtube, you name it) and go do something creative or productive, build a skill, work on your career, and get more ready for a family of your own? Or take better care of the family you have?

    Men need to grow up -- or grow up even more. Either way, self-improvement and further maturation is the order of the day.

    We have Lent coming up, gentlemen!
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    Re: American economy just isn't built for families
    « Reply #6 on: January 19, 2024, 04:29:30 PM »
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    He got an engineering job -- a job in his precise field of study -- immediately after college, and he's had the job ever since. I think he added some kind of PE certification (not physical ed) to get an increase in pay a couple years after he graduated. If something happened to his current employer (highly unlikely; his employer does work for various utilities and taxpayer-funded organizations, etc.) he would be doing another ENGINEERING job soon enough.
    Generally speaking, even someone like him gets screwed because (based on the current job market) you only get significant wage increases if you job hop.  Generally speaking, employers don't reward loyalty or long-term job productivity.



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    Re: American economy just isn't built for families
    « Reply #7 on: January 19, 2024, 04:33:23 PM »
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    It's easy to talk the talk. But how many are *willing* to get up and leave the screen (video games, social media, movies, Youtube, you name it) and go do something creative or productive, build a skill, work on your career, and get more ready for a family of your own? Or take better care of the family you have?
    Many of the youngsters aren't ready for this.  But even if they are, it's hard to make a dollar these days.  Even for mature adults...if you have a skill, the tax/law regulations can slow you down.  The economy is hardly pro-small business, especially post-covid.  Not saying it's impossible, but it's difficult.


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    Re: American economy just isn't built for families
    « Reply #8 on: January 19, 2024, 08:52:56 PM »
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  • He does work necessary to keep the electricity running, water flowing, and other important infrastructure work.
    Farming and other truly essential jobs are also stabler.
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    Re: American economy just isn't built for families
    « Reply #9 on: January 19, 2024, 11:09:39 PM »
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  • Farming and other truly essential jobs are also stabler.
    Here on the Canadian prairies, beef ranchers are generally struggling. Many areas had their third turd year of droughts. A newspaper article recently reported a survey in Alberta. A 200 beef cow herd will, on average mind you! , net you $18,000 / year.  A job at Starbucks = 18000 bucks. 
    I just found out that 20 % of foreign students (of 800,000 total ) don' t even attend classes! They are happy getting $ 17 under the table...sometimes taking jobs from the youngrrr generation. :mad:.  In Canada , we could employ of 1000' s of FRAMERS, not farmers. Trudeau wants to build 3,000,000 affordable housing, u know = welfare state.  Pray +
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    Re: American economy just isn't built for families
    « Reply #10 on: January 21, 2024, 03:48:29 PM »
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  • Here on the Canadian prairies, beef ranchers are generally struggling.
    I mean subsistence farmers, not corporate farmers.
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