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Telesphorus · « **Reply #690 on:** March 31, 2011, 10:36:50 PM »

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Tele has made it known that he lives in Cincinnati Ohio, and he has on two different occasions given out his real name (at the Ignis site and here at CI). It would not take much to put 2 & 2 together and determine what Society chapel is in the middle of the mess.

I mentioned my name and face because people accused me of cowardice - of not having the integrity to put my name next to what I'm saying. Well, I'm the one who telling the truth, and that priest and that girl's father are both liars. They're both people who have tried to sic the police on me. They're both sick twisted bullies.

You collect all the information in this one place - almost no one would be able to find it all - if anyone was really concerned about protecting the reputations of the people I'm talking about, they wouldn't put all that information into one place.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #691 on:** March 31, 2011, 10:43:08 PM »

I garbled my response here:

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Again, please see why you have no credibility and you seem like a liar: Tele:The father and the priest were both liars and had me kicked out of Church

No, I'm not a liar. I'm telling the truth. And you know it. You have no basis for saying what I said makes me "seem like a liar"

Yes, the father was certainly involved in having me kicked out - he complained about me - acting as though I was acting without any encouragement - the man was unashamed to lie to get what he wanted - and you're unashamed to lie - unashamed to say "I seem like a liar" for telling the truth.

The bottom line is you have no integrity or decency - you come back to this thread again and again because you hate me for liking a young woman.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #692 on:** March 31, 2011, 10:46:04 PM »

When I put my name and face next to what I said - Stevus understood I was telling the truth. That was the intention - to let people know I'm telling the truth - that I'm completely serious.

Now, I'm fairly certain that everyone here believes the substance of my story - those who pretend to dsibelieve just don't care that priests don't tell the truth, or that I was kicked out of church - or that these lying bullies tried to sic the police on me - because they hate the fact that I liked a young woman.

LM · « **Reply #693 on:** March 31, 2011, 10:49:22 PM »

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Tele has made it known that he lives in Cincinnati Ohio, and he has on two different occasions given out his real name (at the Ignis site and here at CI). It would not take much to put 2 & 2 together and determine what Society chapel is in the middle of the mess.

I mentioned my name and face because people accused me of cowardice - of not having the integrity to put my name next to what I'm saying. Well, I'm the one who telling the truth, and that priest and that girl's father are both liars. They're both people who have tried to sic the police on me. They're both sick twisted bullies.

You collect all the information in this one place - almost no one would be able to find it all - if anyone was really concerned about protecting the reputations of the people I'm talking about, they wouldn't put all that information into one place.

You went and posted your mess on Facebook, and on two public discussion boards, and you have the nerve to whine.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #694 on:** March 31, 2011, 10:57:51 PM »

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You went and posted your mess on Facebook, and on two public discussion boards, and you have the nerve to whine.

No, you are the one whining about me giving my name, face and general location - because it supposedly makes the people I haven't named look bad.

Meanwhile, all the information about me is collected onto one page - anyone who was genuinely concerned about the reputation of the people I'm talking about wouldn't do that. So cut the hypocrisy - you want to make it look like I'm slandering others for telling the truth, when I haven't named them, because I'm willing to put my name, face, and location behind what I said? You're a hypocrite to say that.

The people who were interested in protecting their reputations shouldn't have started attacking mine, when they did that they obliged me to defend myself. If they were honest, decent people, they wouldn't have anything to worry about. They're harvesting the bitter fruits of their dishonesty.

As for facebook only people who already knew the story and the people involved would be able to figure out what I posted was about.

When you blacken someone's reputation and have them kicked out of church for the sake of your macho pride, there's a price to be paid - that the person you're victimizing will tell the truth about what happened, and demonstrate that you're lying about him.

LM · « **Reply #695 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:01:54 PM »

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You went and posted your mess on Facebook, and on two public discussion boards, and you have the nerve to whine.

No, you are the one whining about me giving my name, face and general location - because it supposedly makes the people I haven't named look bad.

Meanwhile, all the information about me is collected onto one page - anyone who was genuinely concerned about the reputation of the people I'm talking about wouldn't do that. So cut the hypocrisy - you want to make it look like I'm slandering others for telling the truth, when I haven't named them, because I'm willing to put my name, face, and location behind what I said? You're a hypocrite to say that.

The people who were interested in protecting their reputations shouldn't have started attacking mine, when they did that they obliged me to defend myself. They're harvesting the bitter fruits of their dishonesty.

As for facebook only people who already knew the story and the people involved would be able to figure out what I posted was about.

When you blacken someone's reputation and have them kicked out of church for the sake of your macho pride, there's a price to be paid - that the person you're victimizing will tell the truth about what happened, and demonstrate that you're lying about him.

You posted your name, city, and your picture on public discussion boards. Take responsibility for it.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #696 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:03:21 PM »

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You posted your name, city, and your picture on public discussion boards. Take responsibility for it.

I certainly have. I'm not complaining about what I did - you're complaining about what I did because it supposedly exposes other people - well - if you were really worried about that you wouldn't keep bringing it up so that everyone is aware of it, would you?

Cut the hypocricy.

LM · « **Reply #697 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:12:13 PM »

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You posted your name, city, and your picture on public discussion boards. Take responsibility for it.

I certainly have. I'm not complaining about what I did - you're complaining about what I did because it supposedly exposes other people - well - if you were really worried about that you wouldn't keep bringing it up so that everyone is aware of it, would you?

Cut the hypocricy.

If you had not plastered your mess on public forums, no one would have known anything. What bugs you is that people are catching on to what you are really all about.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #698 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:17:18 PM »

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If you had not plastered your mess on public forums, no one would have known anything.

Yes, people would think the SSPX behaves decently when their priests lie, have someone kicked out of church unjustly, and attempt to sic the police on someone. Yes, people wouldn't know the truth about the dishonest bullies at some SSPX chapels.

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What bugs you is that people are catching on to what you are really all about.

It doesn't bug me at all that people know I'm telling the truth. What bugs me are the people who pretend they don't know it. Matthew and his wife, Raoul, Stevus and others - they know I'm telling the truth and show sympathy for me. But other people don't care about the truth - they care about making me look bad.

I put my name, face and location to show I stand behind my words. That's a lot more than other people on this thread are willing to do, most of whom know nothing about what happened - but dismiss my story automatically because of their sick desire to get shots in at me for liking a young woman.

If the people I've been talking about are aware of this thread, I encourage them to apologize to me. They've done me a great wrong, and it's about time they had apologized.

LM · « **Reply #699 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:21:50 PM »

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If you had not plastered your mess on public forums, no one would have known anything.

Yes, people would think the SSPX behaves decently when their priests lie, have someone kicked out of church unjustly, and attempt to sic the police on someone. Yes, people wouldn't know the truth about the dishonest bullies at some SSPX chapels.

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What bugs you is that people are catching on to what you are really all about.

It doesn't bug me at all that people know I'm telling the truth. What bugs me are the people who pretend they don't know it. Matthew and his wife, Raoul, Stevus and others - they know I'm telling the truth and show sympathy for me. But other people don't care about the truth - they care about making me look bad.

I put my name, face and location to show I stand behind my words. That's a lot more than other people on this thread are willing to do, most of whom know nothing about what happened - but dismiss my story automatically because of their sick desire to get shots in at me for liking a young woman.

If the people I've been talking about are aware of this thread, I encourage them to apologize to me. They've done me a great wrong, and it's about time they had apologized.

Grow-up and move on. And for your spiritual good, talk to a priest about this vendetta you are carrying.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #700 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:24:26 PM »

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Grow-up and move on. And for your spiritual good, talk to a priest about this vendetta you are carrying.

The SSPX needs to start acting in a Christian manner. They need to start telling the truth. The people who had me kicked out of church need to apologize to me.

These priests are going to be held to account for their actions.

LM · « **Reply #701 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:28:39 PM »

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Grow-up and move on. And for your spiritual good, talk to a priest about this vendetta you are carrying.

The SSPX needs to start acting in a Christian manner. They need to start telling the truth. The people who had me kicked out of church need to apologize to me.

These priests are going to be held to account for their actions.

Talk to a priest Tele.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #702 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:38:37 PM »

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Talk to a priest Tele.

I called up the new priest at the chapel. He told me to accept injustice. How utterly cynical. Patronizing me about accepting injustice when he is responsible for letting it continue. He also pretended I wasn't telling the truth.

Anyone who deigns to give me spiritual advice had first better not call me a liar - had first better admit I'm telling the truth - had first better not call me "disordered" for liking a younger woman.

If these people who had me kicked out of Church or the people attacking me on this thread had any genuine concern for my spiritual welfare - they wouldn't lie, they wouldn't have me kicked out of church, they wouldn't attempt to sic the police on me, they wouldn't come back to this thread over and over to attack me.

If they really want good for me then it's time for them to show they're really Christians and apologize fully, and admit their lies.

LM · « **Reply #703 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:48:28 PM »

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Talk to a priest Tele.

I called up the new priest at the chapel. He told me to accept injustice. How utterly cynical. Patronizing me about accepting injustice when he is responsible for letting it continue. He also pretended I wasn't telling the truth.

Anyone who deigns to give me spiritual advice had first better not call me a liar - had first better admit I'm telling the truth - had first better not call me "disordered" for liking a younger woman.

If these people who had me kicked out of Church or the people attacking me on this thread had any genuine concern for my spiritual welfare - they wouldn't lie, they wouldn't have me kicked out of church, they wouldn't attempt to sic the police on me, they wouldn't come back to this thread over and over to attack me.

If they really want good for me then it's time for them to show they're really Christians and apologize fully, and admit their lies.

You are breeding bitterness, resentment, and I will say hate. It has shown itself in your posts. If you do not get some spiritual help, you can well send yourself into darkness.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #704 on:** March 31, 2011, 11:52:28 PM »

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You are breeding bitterness, resentment, and I will say hate. It has shown itself in your posts. If you do not get some spiritual help, you can well send yourself into darkness.

The people who have shown hatred towards me can start showing some decency. Because I know none of the people attacking me on this thread have one ounce of genuine concern for me - if I were saying nothing they wouldn't care what happened to me. They just want me to go away. Well, it's in their power. This thread will end when people stop attacking me in it.

My "vendetta" as you call it (telling the truth about the way I was unjustly treated) will end when apologies are received and reparations are made for the injury done me.