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The only reason I've cast doubt on your story, is because its such a foolish one with no real substance, and trys to slander others...

I may have missed it, but I do not believe Tele named any names (and I do not know his name, etc).  Presuming he has not named names, how can what he has said be considered slander?

FWIW, when you respond, there is no need to use the largest font size available.

Tele has made it known that he lives in Ohio, and he has on two different occasions given out his real name (at the Ignis site and here at CI).  It would not take much to put 2 & 2 together and determine what Society chapel is in the middle of the mess.

In stating SSPX and their chapels... it was specific enough in my opinion...

You may be correct.  I do not know, nor shall I spend the time to find out.

...sorry about the large font.

No biggie.  It has its place :)

LOL!

Thanks for the info...

I think you will not be surprised when I tell you I have not read this entire thread (or even most of it).

Oh my... doesn't this sound familiar... from Ignis Ardens:

Telesphorus:
Gregorio, you bring it up to taunt me because you're cult bully trash. I have still NEVER heard you concede that children have the freedom to marry. Never yet. You will still take the cult position...


And this, my friends, is sad:


...You launch personal attacks instead of responding to the post because you have nothing to defend Bishop Fellay's outrageous, treacherous, and quite simply indefensible behavior...

...I wouldn't be posting here if I weren't concerned about those filthy lying traitors....

... That dirty lying priest would laugh and taunt me on the phone - but he knows better than to do that in person. You're having a kick licking the boots of dirty treacherous priest bullies. Let me assure you they have decided to pick on the wrong person. I'm never going to stop until they are exposed for the fakes that they are...

Listen tele- if the lady was 30 years old... I really wouldn't care- Its hard to justify a father telling a 30 year old she wouldn't be able to talk with another 30 year old. But when it comes to a 17 year old - its just different- if you cant accept that, and you have to refute to calling someone a feminist- thats your problem. Its weak and sick to use that as your argument because you know Trads are anti feminist.

And that's what it all comes down to - it comes down to pharisees who think it's "gross" that I liked a young woman - pharisees who think it's okay to bind her not to speak to me.

If you think it's "gross" - then you have the problem, and yes, it's called feminism.

Am I reading this right?  Did Tele make these statements? :shocked:

Emerentiana these people have taunted me and sometimes I've stated things immoderately, but fundamentally what I'm saying is true.

A group that claims to be truly Catholic but doesn't scruple to practice deception about Catholic teachings - and then gangs up on someone who says what Catholic teachings  really are  -starts to viciously insult and antagonize that person - tries to represent them as lacking a sound mind is acting like a cult bully.

It is vicious, anti-Christian behavior.

As for Bishop Fellay, yes he has has behaved treacherously.

I'm not avoiding anything, I've stated, along with others, that each case is different for each person. It is you, in avoiding this, or in backtracking on statements,

No, I haven't backtracked on anything.

who has failed to clarify whether you really knew her or not. You've stated both- which takes all of your credibility away.

Now you're lying.  What is the definition of "knowing someone" - I explained the exact circuмstances of our acquaintance.  There's nothing inconsistent in what I said.  You claimed I didn't know her - that's not really accurate.  That's what I stated at the beginning- what you were claiming was inaccurate.  You been repeating the same lies over and over again because you have no scruples about lying.

The only reason I've cast doubt on your story, is because its such a foolish one with no real substance,

No susbstance?  I was kicked out of Church unjustly.  I've explained everything.

 

and trys to slander others who are not here to defend themselves- thats why.

I'm not slandering them - they're liars - you don't care that they treated me unjustly - you don't care about what really happened, you care about insulting me.

...dirt bag...scheissters... feminist cultural marxists...you a pharisee...

I am responding in kind - and reasoning the whole time.  And yes - you are a dirtbag for the way you're carrying on against me.  Someone suggests that arguing an 18 year old should be able speak freely to someone because she has reached the age of majority is somehow arbitrary - like stating the same thing about a 12 year old - is an attempt to make me look like I'm defending marriage to 12 year olds.  It makes you a dirtbag, a scheisster, who will try to destroy someone with the same tactics that cultural marxists use.

So I guess you consider yourself a cult apologist eh..?

You're never ashamed of the non sequitur.  The people who defend lying manipulative priests who unjustly kick people out - who attempt to sic the police on people (never heard a word from the police - and the reason why is that cult aren't afraid to harass someone with frivolous complaints) who defend priests who tell young women lies in the confessional about their rights - are cult apologists.  And they have one weapon - to impugn the sanity of those they don't like - they are pharisees - Josephus said of the Pharisees - they were willing to attempt anything against those they did not like - and that's exactly what the people defending these dishonest , malevolent priests are doing.

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The priest threatened to kick me out of church for contacting the girl.

Again, please see why you have no credibility and you seem like a liar: Tele:The father and the priest were both liars and had me kicked out of Church

No, I'm not a liar.  And you know it.  But you are a liar - so you aren't accused of lying.

Yes, the father was certainly involved in having me kicked out - he complained about me - acting as though I was acting without any encouragement - the man was unashamed to lie to get what he wanted - and you're unashamed to lie - unashamed to call me a liar for telling the truth.

So did the priest kick you out or threaten to kick you out? Please make up your mind...

He did both.  First one, then the other.  Now I think we can see you're not at all interested in an honest discussion.  Acting as though it's a contradiction to say he did both?  Do you hear how stupid you sound?

See above  replies which essentially requires you take this argument and apply it to yourself...

No - everything I've been stating is a response to your calumnies.

I didn't. I was making a point that there is no clear age- no way to draw a distinguishing line.

No clear age?  What do 12 year olds have to do with arguments over the age of majority?  You are bringing this up to compare liking an 18 year old to liking a 12 year old - you're trying to shift the discussion to ages under 18 to make me look bad, it's very transparent.  It's filthy on your part.

Of course parents like control-

Not all parents believe they should control their children after a certain age.  Not all parents believe they have authority they don't have.

 

only bad parents wouldn't want to look out for the interest of their children...

Only bad parents think they have the right to decide who their daughter may say hello to when she's grown.

Which is again, why you probably avoid my questions on what role your parents play in your life..?

Once again, you try to make this about me.  There's nothing unusual or strange about my parents.  You keep coming back to how you can make this about me.

You seem to have a pretty easy time rejecting authority- formal or informal, which is why I ask.

I'm not rejecting any legitimate authority.  The people who reject authority are the people who refuse to teach Church teachings about freedom to marry.

The same way that the priest and father have no way to defend their position............................?

They have no defense because they are liars.

Yes yes all knowing Pope Saint Telephorous...You decide what the opinions of all Christians should be...

It's a matter of reason - if you think it's gross for an 18 year old to marry a man older than her - you lack the ability to reason.  You lack the ability to look at history.  You respond galvanically - hysterically - like a woman - "eeeewwww" - he's older than her - well I'm not an old man.  and she's a grown woman.  So if you think it's "gross" that's your problem, the problem of being a pharisee.  

You haven't pointed out any errors.

You haven't pointed out anything and you know it.

Hey- Romeo- if Romeo was killed, Juliet would have found someone else. You act as if this was your one opportunity in life. Grow up.

You made it up the claim that I believed in fate - you don't have any scruples about making things up - that's the kind of person you are.

It was an important opportunity - and another thing - Juliet was his wife.  

I guess you dont get it... I wish we could ask them to join this forum and see what a different story they present than what you say.

And if they joined up and claimed I imagined everything you'd be right there on their side, even though you know it isn't true.

Now that makes you trash.