Author Topic: America and courting 18-year-old virgins (Read 62923 times)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #615 on:** March 29, 2011, 11:26:27 PM »

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My post is certainly open to interpretation, but mind you, we're talking about our girls here. But then... "over the head" would be more prudent... I was thinking in the shoulder.

"In the shoulder" with a shotgun.?

Be prepared for the murder trial.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #616 on:** March 29, 2011, 11:27:27 PM »

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And you are bitter that you couldn't pilfer la puma's pearl WHY???
You should be giving thanks! :wink:

Ho ho I fear him as much as a I fear a rooster.

But if he could somehow get those police dogs after me - he would love to be able to do that.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #617 on:** March 29, 2011, 11:38:18 PM »

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My post is certainly open to interpretation, but mind you, we're talking about our girls here. But then... "over the head" would be more prudent... I was thinking in the shoulder.

"In the shoulder" with a shotgun.?

Be prepared for the murder trial.

To be honest I dont know what I'd use. I started thinking about a pistol when I said that. If you were going to use a shotgun you might as well just finish the job.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #618 on:** March 29, 2011, 11:39:47 PM »

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Yall didn't have a shotgun? A round would have changed the course of history! :stare:

You weren't thinking about shotgun?

Yeah, I think if you wounded the guy you'd defeat your purpose.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #619 on:** March 29, 2011, 11:43:35 PM »

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Yall didn't have a shotgun? A round would have changed the course of history! :stare:

You weren't thinking about shotgun?

Yeah, I think if you wounded the guy you'd defeat your purpose.

That was in regards to Emerentiana's case. More than likely mine would be different. It all depends....

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #620 on:** March 29, 2011, 11:51:24 PM »

In any case, ya'll dont have to worry about me shooting anyone. I dont have any guns. :kick-can:

But I do have a few knives! >:)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #621 on:** March 30, 2011, 06:48:38 AM »

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Yall didn't ha BTW the church has taught a 6 mo courtship is ideal.....longer than that is an occasion of sin. [/b] :alcohol:

Six month courtship or six month engagement?

A six month courtship does sound about right. A minimum engagement time of six months is something that seems to be entirely modern in inspiration.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #622 on:** March 30, 2011, 06:54:52 AM »

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Just like diamond rings are virtually a criminal racket - a DeBeer's Oppenheimer tax on Christians who want to marry.

In Poland the Jews would often hold the keys to churches and demand people pay them for services like marriage. The diamond ring industry is no different.

I wanted to give some support for these statements in case anyone doubted them:

E Michael Jones writes about the Jews leasing churches in Poland:

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A Jew, for example, might take out a short-term lease on a church, in defiance of church law. This meant that he was in sole possession of the key to the church door, which could only be opened for the performance of weddings or baptisms after payment of a fee

The following (old) article explains that the engagement diamond industry is a monopoly that sells those gems at outrageous prices - gems that cannot really be sold back for anything remotely approaching the retail price. Now the Russian Jew Lev Leviev has cut somewhat into the DeBeer's business - the fact remains that it has become a Jєωιѕн tax on Christian marriage - made possible by men's aquiescence to female vanity and the thralldom of modern women to advertisers:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/02/have-you-ever-tried-to-sell-a-diamond/4575/

Emerentiana · « **Reply #623 on:** March 30, 2011, 03:18:01 PM »

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Yall didn't ha BTW the church has taught a 6 mo courtship is ideal.....longer than that is an occasion of sin. [/b] :alcohol:

Six month courtship or six month engagement?

A six month courtship does sound about right. A minimum engagement time of six months is something that seems to be entirely modern in inspiration.

Sorry, Tele, I meant engagement. CMRI has a betrothal ceremony that some couples choose to go thru instead of "engagement". Its done at the altar. This bethrothel ceremony is in the Roman ritual, and is done by other trad groups as well. The custom is to marry 6 months afterward.[/b]

PartyIsOver221 · « **Reply #624 on:** March 30, 2011, 03:20:54 PM »

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Yall didn't ha BTW the church has taught a 6 mo courtship is ideal.....longer than that is an occasion of sin. [/b] :alcohol:

Six month courtship or six month engagement?

A six month courtship does sound about right. A minimum engagement time of six months is something that seems to be entirely modern in inspiration.

Sorry, Tele, I meant engagement. CMRI has a betrothal ceremony that some couples choose to go thru instead of "engagement". Its done at the altar. This bethrothel ceremony is in the Roman ritual, and is done by other trad groups as well. The custom is to marry 6 months afterward.[/b]

Interesting! Did not know, I will remember this ...

Telesphorus · « **Reply #625 on:** March 30, 2011, 06:01:05 PM »

This CAF thread shows you where the attitudes of people like SS are coming from:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=532523

Telesphorus · « **Reply #626 on:** March 30, 2011, 06:15:51 PM »

Another CAF thread:

http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=320704&page=2

So far no one has cited any Catholic authorities on these threads as to how long they recommend - nor are there any references to history, nor have I seen any mention of occasion of sin.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #627 on:** March 30, 2011, 06:31:16 PM »

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the parish priest cannot refuse to publish the banns excepted for reasons stated in the canon law.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02255a.htm

My own view is that a period of engagement should last not much longer than than the time of the publication of the banns.

A betrothal is already a binding promise - it's silly to delay. If you've decided to marry you may as well do it. The idea that waiting around for a year is Catholic - well, it's obviously not.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #628 on:** March 30, 2011, 06:34:24 PM »

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Yall didn't have a shotgun? A round would have changed the course of history! :stare:

You weren't thinking about shotgun?

Yeah, I think if you wounded the guy you'd defeat your purpose.

That was in regards to Emerentiana's case. More than likely mine would be different. It all depends....

:sign-thread-hijacked:

Emerentiana · « **Reply #629 on:** March 30, 2011, 06:51:05 PM »

Here is a booklet on the rite of betrothal from the Angelus press website

Other articles:
http://www.angeluspress.org/oscatalog/item/8361/rite-of-betrothal

http://monterey-tlm.blogspot.com/2010/08/betrothal-and-anniversary-of-wedding-at.html

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02537c.htm