Author Topic: America and courting 18-year-old virgins (Read 62871 times)

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #60 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:10:26 PM »

It sounds to me that regardless of whether Tele was hitting on her, he apprently had emotions for her. The fact that she was 14 at the time makes it even worse. And then he blames the SSPX for what he did. Any time a full-grown adult in their 20s or 30s has a crush of some sort on a 14 year-old teenage girl, something is wrong. When at Church you should have your mind on God, not on a girl more than 10 years younger than you regardless of how attractive she is.

If I've been able to comprehend this crazy story right, it sounds like the SSPX priests were just trying to protect this girl. There's nothing cultish about that. Yet Tele goes around playing innocent, saying there's nothing wrong with acting like a pervert in Church and trying to get the attention of a teenager. If I was a father and some adult tried to hit on my daughter during Church, I would be TICKED off.

Tele, you don't make the SSPX look bad with this story. You only make yourself look bad. I doubt this girl felt any affection towards you, she probably noticed that you couldn't take your eyes off her and just tried to be nice. But as Raoul said, there may be more to this story than what you are telling us. You deserved everything that came your way via punishment and I do not feel sorry for you as you don't seem to have repented at all for what you did. You just keep bragging about how she must have liked you and how the SSPX was wrong to correct you. You go to Church to worship Christ, not hit on other women. What you did was WRONG. No question about it.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #61 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:12:44 PM »

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It sounds to me that regardless of whether Tele was hitting on her, he apprently had emotions for her. The fact that she was 14 at the time makes it even worse.

SS - are you capable of reading! She was not 14 !!!!!!!

She was 17 when I met her. Sometimes I wonder if it's not deliberate when these society people say these things like this!

Raoul76 · « **Reply #62 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:13:53 PM »

Did you have your one conversation before or after all of this flirting?

At what point did you decide this was serious enough to address her father? Before or after your conversation with her?

When did he sic her brothers on you?

Also, what was said during this conversation, what kind of affections were exchanged?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #63 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:18:34 PM »

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Did you have your one conversation before or after all of this flirting?

It became very clear to me she liked me a week before I introduced myself to her - she had flirted some with me for a couple months before that - on May 24, 2009 we met. A week later she tried to talk to me before she went to confession. She seemed to get angry with her mother in the confession line. After mass she ignored me.

A few weeks later she started flirting with me - she continued to act that way until the Saturday before Palm Sunday 2010.

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At what point did you decide this was serious enough to address her father? Before or after your conversation with her?

I decided to talk to her father in November, a couple weeks after she'd followed me down the steps - when she did follow me down I did nothing, didn't even speak to her, because I thought it wouldnt' be right.

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When did he sic her brothers on you?

Right after I introduced myself to her.

Raoul we just met. She seemed very happy to meet me and I was very happy to meet her.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:19:21 PM »

Telesphorus said:

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She was 17 when I met her. Sometimes I wonder if it's not deliberate when these society people say these things like this!

It doesn't matter if it is or isn't. There are all sorts of strange things that go on in my chapel, too. There are many things I've just learned to let drop. But gossip is not a problem confined to the SSPX.

But I do believe there is more to this story, Tele. I'll wait until you answer my questions to say more.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #65 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:21:19 PM »

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But I do believe there is more to this story, Tele. I'll wait until you answer my questions to say more.

Like what Raoul?

This story has only one theme - I never intended any wrong, didn't take advantage of the girl in any way - even when I had the opportunity, just wanted to talk to her, and I am maligned and slandered by these wicked lying cultists.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #66 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:21:41 PM »

Tele, I hope you realized that you just used the worst word possible. If this were my forum you'd be banned right about now, but it is not my forum so that doesn't really matter. You mentioned something about her being 14, calm down. I still feel no sympathy for you. You are acting like a loser. Please, lose the smug attitude.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #67 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:24:03 PM »

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Tele, I hope you realized that you just used the worst word possible.

You silly wicked pharisee. How many times has it been written that she was 18 when I was threatened to be kicked out of church. I'm having a hard time believing you're not lying. I really am. IF the SSPX members are so wickedly depraved as to deliberately misquote - then they are devils.

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If this were my forum you'd be banned right about now, but it is not my forum so that doesn't really matter. You mentioned something about her being 14,

SS - why do you comment on things when you don't even bother to read what's written? Do you consider the implications of what you're doing.

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calm down. I still feel no sympathy for you. You are acting like a loser. Please, lose the smug attitude.

You are the smug one you wicked pharisee.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #68 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:24:52 PM »

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But I do believe there is more to this story, Tele. I'll wait until you answer my questions to say more.

Like what Raoul?

This story has only one theme - I never intended any wrong, didn't take advantage of the girl in any way - even when I had the opportunity, just wanted to talk to her, and I am maligned and slandered by these wicked lying cultists.

You are a fool. Please, save your breath. They aren't wicked. You did wrong and when you were corrected you couldn't handle it. You seem so full of yourself. You saying that you two seemed right for each other in every way shows you had every intention of hitting on her. If I were you, I'd be hoping that Matthew does not see this thread. Because he will be furious when he sees that you called the SSPX wicked. Calling me wicked isn't going to help much. After hearing what you did to that girl and seeing you call people wicked, I'm beginning to wonder if you are a CINO.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #69 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:28:23 PM »

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You are a fool. Please, save your breath. They aren't wicked.

They are wicked liars and you are wicked to judge me. There's absolutely nothing in the Catholic religion that says its wrong for a man my age to want to talk to a 17 year old girl that shows interest in him. Nothing wrong with contacting an 18 year old girl with innocent messages without the father's consent. Nothing! Only a warped little cult pharisee can claim it's wrong.

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You did wrong and when you were corrected you couldn't handle it. You seem so full of yourself. You saying that you two seemed right for each other in every way shows you had every intention of hitting on her.

You are a devil who smugly accused me of hitting on a 14 year old girl because you're either too lazy or what is far far worse - you're one of the cult liars.

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If I were you, I'd be hoping that Matthew does not see this thread. Because he will be furious when he sees that you called the SSPX wicked.

I don't call the SSPX wicked. I call liars and people who support their lies wicked.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #70 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:28:27 PM »

Yeah, it sounds like she liked you, with very little question.

At first I thought she might have just been flirting with you in a vague way, and that you took it to mean more than it did. But if she tried to talk to you in the confession line, that's serious.

The father and priest probably think they're acting in her best interests, trying to protect her, but it sounds to me like they went too far in portraying you as a madman.

Spiritus is a little naive and very devoted to the SSPX, don't let him rile you up. I hope you see that I'm just trying to get the truth.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #71 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:31:52 PM »

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Yeah, it sounds like she liked you, with very little question.

At first I thought she might have just been flirting with you in a vague way, and that you took it to mean more than it did. But if she tried to talk to you in the confession line, that's serious.

The father and priest probably think they're acting in her best interests, trying to protect her, but it sounds to me like they went too far in portraying you as a madman.

Spiritus is a naif, don't let him rile you up. I hope you see that I'm just trying to get the truth.

As usual, I'm persecuted for acting myself and for telling a person off. It's people like roscoe and Tele that are slowly making CatholicInfo a less enjoyable experience. Here this man is calling me a devil and you side with him? You're going to let being a sedevacantist get in the way of what's important, siding with him and cutting me down just because I'm not a sede? (Tele can't even admit he's a sede.) Anyway, it doesn't matter. There's not way Matthew wouldn't ban Tele for calling the SSPX and other forum users wicked. So we'll see who's right before long.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #72 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:34:50 PM »

BYW Tele, I deleted that nasty post of yours. You'd better be prepared to get banned as well. I'll likely put you on ignore as well. It's clear that you are not the person you claim to be. You are a CINO who has a hot temper and can't admit when he does wrong.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #73 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:35:19 PM »

I changed "naif" to "a little naive." :farmer:

Sorry, I didn't mean that to sound as rude as it did. But you come off as young and quite green.

You were misrepresenting Tele's position, acting like he was going after a 14-year old while, at the same time, unequivocally siding with the SSPX priest without knowing the whole story, making him sound like a pervert. You don't see why this would annoy him if he was already unfairly blackballed?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #74 on:** March 21, 2011, 09:36:53 PM »

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BYW Tele, I deleted that nasty post of yours. You'd better be prepared to get banned as well. I'll likely put you on ignore as well. It's clear that you are not the person you claim to be. You are a CINO who has a hot temper and can't admit when he does wrong.

You're a devil who accused me of hitting on a 14 year old girl. Don't pretend you didn't. Even if it was only laziness on your part, it would be a bannable offense.