The errors of America have spread across Europe as well. It is not just America, it is the whole world which is made drunk with the wine of Babylon, which is 'equality' and 'liberty'.

We, as a family, contemplated moving to France, due to the large SSPX presence there.  I sent an email to the DICI about moving to France at our own expense (basically, we would sell our house and use the money to move) in late November 2010, and in late December 2010 (a full month later), they replied saying that they had no advice for me nor could (or would) they provide me with any POCs in France whom I could discuss the issue with further.  (My goal was to find another individual/family who had made this "journey.")  Instead, I was referred to the "superior general" in Kansas City, whom I was told was French.

Anyone who thinks that the SSPX is a "cult" should think again.  They are hard to get a hold of!

We, as a family, contemplated moving to France, due to the large SSPX presence there.  I sent an email to the DICI about moving to France at our own expense (basically, we would sell our house and use the money to move) in late November 2010, and in late December 2010 (a full month later), they replied saying that they had no advice for me nor could (or would) they provide me with any POCs in France whom I could discuss the issue with further.  (My goal was to find another individual/family who had made this "journey.")  Instead, I was referred to the "superior general" in Kansas City, whom I was told was French.

Anyone who thinks that the SSPX is a "cult" should think again.  They are hard to get a hold of!

Jehanne, they care a lot about money.  It's understandable that they wouldn't encourage you to move to France, but the way in which they treat strangers doesn't make them less cultish - quite the opposite.  I wasn't able to talk to the priest until I stared down a black man who was in his face at while we were saying the rosary before an abortion clinic.  I was attending nearly a year before people started talking to me.  In particular some young women took notice of me.  When they thought I was well-off some of them were extremely welcoming, the mother of one young woman was waiting for me after church to interview me.  Women would come up to me and ask me whether or not I was interested in some widow half-way across the country.  Essentially, after ignoring me for a year, they were now acting as though I should immediately take a fancy to their daughter who seemed to be in a rush to be married.

Well.  I was stupid, and always admitted my difficulties.  I even made the mistake of eventually telling this woman of the girl I did like - the girl who had first paid attention to me - the first girl I was able to introduce myself too (though she was forbidden to speak to me one week later in confession) - after it seemed like the girl who had her mother waiting for me was going to marry someone else.  Suddenly this young woman who had been so friendly treated me like some sort of criminal.  When my mother came to mass her mother was extremely rude to my mother.  The priest, when I tried to talk to him of the way the girls acted towards me he just pretended I was crazy.

Oh yes - these groups often act like a cult.  Absolutely.  I've spoken to someone from southern Missouri who notices similar things in Protestant churches.  These groups are social clubs dominated by certain cliques and woe betide those who rub the hens the wrong way.  If you're a man around thirty interested in a girl below 20 they have you marked as some sort of criminal.  They want the young pretty girls for their own sons.

Jehanne it's sad that Father Petty died so young.  Are you still in that general location?

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We, as a family, contemplated moving to France, due to the large SSPX presence there.  I sent an email to the DICI about moving to France at our own expense (basically, we would sell our house and use the money to move) in late November 2010, and in late December 2010 (a full month later), they replied saying that they had no advice for me nor could (or would) they provide me with any POCs in France whom I could discuss the issue with further.  (My goal was to find another individual/family who had made this "journey.")  Instead, I was referred to the "superior general" in Kansas City, whom I was told was French.

Anyone who thinks that the SSPX is a "cult" should think again.  They are hard to get a hold of!

Jehanne, they care a lot about money.  It's understandable that they wouldn't encourage you to move to France, but the way in which they treat strangers doesn't make them less cultish - quite the opposite.  I wasn't able to talk to the priest until I stared down a black man who was in his face at while we were saying the rosary before an abortion clinic.  I was attending nearly a year before people started talking to me.  In particular some young women took notice of me.  When they thought I was well-off some of them were extremely welcoming, the mother of one young woman was waiting for me after church to interview me.  Women would come up to me and ask me whether or not I was interested in some widow half-way across the country.  Essentially, after ignoring me for a year, they were now acting as though I should immediately take a fancy to their daughter who seemed to be in a rush to be married.

Well.  I was stupid, and always admitted my difficulties.  I even made the mistake of eventually telling this woman of the girl I did like - the girl who had first paid attention to me - the first girl I was able to introduce myself too (though she was forbidden to speak to me one week later in confession) - after it seemed like the girl who had her mother waiting for me was going to marry someone else.  Suddenly this young woman who had been so friendly treated me like some sort of criminal.  When my mother came to mass her mother was extremely rude to my mother.  The priest, when I tried to talk to him of the way the girls acted towards me he just pretended I was crazy.

Oh yes - these groups often act like a cult.  Absolutely.  I've spoken to someone from southern Missouri who notices similar things in Protestant churches.  These groups are social clubs dominated by certain cliques and woe betide those who rub the hens the wrong way.  If you're a man around thirty interested in a girl below 20 they have you marked as some sort of criminal.  They want the young pretty girls for their own sons.

Well, I found that story of yours confusing.  :confused1:

Anyway, the SSPX is not a cult. I agree with Jehanne.

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Jehanne it's sad that Father Petty died so young.  Are you still in that general location?

Yes, I am.  I knew Father Petty and his "co-rector," Father Blake, who confirmed me and married my wife and I in a Church wedding.  The Tridentine Mass that Father Petty sung was kind of a hybrid Mass, with him singing into a microphone accompanied by one of the few remaining sisters in Dyserville playing the church organ and signing in the choir loft.

During my RCIA program, Father Blake would always genuflect before the Blessed Sacrament while Father Petty would walk right by.  It was a noticeable contrast.

Oh, I didn't know.  He was a convert.  I never lived there just visited when going to Grandma's.  I just knew he did a lot to help restore the Basilica.

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Jehanne it's sad that Father Petty died so young.  Are you still in that general location?

Yes, I am.  I knew Father Petty and his "co-rector," Father Blake, who confirmed me and married my wife and I in a Church wedding.  The Tridentine Mass that Father Petty sung was kind of a hybrid Mass, with him singing into a microphone accompanied by one of the few remaining sisters in Dyserville playing the church organ and signing in the choir loft.

During my RCIA program, Father Blake would always genuflect before the Blessed Sacrament while Father Petty would walk right by.  It was a noticeable contrast.

Oh, I didn't know.  He was a convert.  I never lived there just visited when going to Grandma's.  I just knew he did a lot to help restore the Basilica.

Yes, it's a beautiful Church.  He remarked, on occasion, how much money the noon "Latin Mass" would bring in.  Still, they only baptize children once a month, which I found to be strange.