Author Topic: America and courting 18-year-old virgins (Read 62927 times)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #105 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:22:06 AM »

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The other girls who showed interest in me - I told them my age right away - pointed out my gray hairs. It didn't deter them at all. What deterred them was my shyness towards them (because I liked another girl) and the thought of what their parents would think.

Well, that didn't deter the one girl because she didn't tell her mother. I told her I was 32 and without a good income the day we met - that didn't deter her at all - but she didn't tell her mother - who was waiting to interview a week later.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #106 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:23:57 AM »

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A bull-headed latin who thinks he has the right to dictate who his daughter may speak to is impossible to convince or befriend.

That's why you should befriend him before he knows you're interested in his daughter.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #107 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:24:16 AM »

This is a biological fact:

Women reach full maturity sooner than men and lose their fertility and attractiveness much sooner than men.

It is completely natural for women to marry men significantly older than themselves, and always has been.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #108 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:24:53 AM »

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A bull-headed latin who thinks he has the right to dictate who his daughter may speak to is impossible to convince or befriend.

That's why you should befriend him before he knows you're interested in his daughter.

Mater no one at that church had any interest in a stranger. Hardly anyone spoke a word to me for nearly a year. That girl was one of the first people to pay me any attention at all.

LM · « **Reply #109 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:29:55 AM »

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A mans fertility also declines Tele, and you are just about that age. So by your own "criteria" you are not in the running for being a marriageable prospect.

Not nearly as fast LM. Men can continue to father children to an advanced age - usually for 20 years longer than women at least. You are arguing exactly as a feminist, trying to deny the differences between men and women.

If a man wants to have a lot of children and a big family and a wife that will make him happy it's completely natural to marry a young woman.

I suggest you take a better read of that article you linked to Tele, seems to be, you really didn't pickup on what it said.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #110 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:31:59 AM »

Men today are supposed to gratefully "man up" and support the women desperate to be married who rejected them when they were younger.

Well they are quite mad to think the men they rejected want them now.

LM · « **Reply #111 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:34:32 AM »

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This is a biological fact:

Women reach full maturity sooner than men and lose their fertility and attractiveness much sooner than men.

It is completely natural for women to marry men significantly older than themselves, and always has been.

You have a problem, a major, major problem.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #112 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:36:36 AM »

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You have a problem, a major, major problem.

No, you have a problem with reality. Women lose their attractiveness and fertility much sooner than men. This is simply a fact - and you have trouble accepting the implications of it.

I blame the schools in large part.

Somehow people think it's natural for boys and girls of the same age to be crammed together in classes for hours a day - it's totally perverse. Whereas my wanting to meet and get to know a lovely young woman who showed interest in me is totally natural.

LM · « **Reply #113 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:38:23 AM »

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You have a problem, a major, major problem.

No, you have a problem with reality. Women lose their attractiveness and fertility much sooner than men. This is simply a fact - and you have trouble accepting it.

You are to full of yourself, and with a fixation for barely out teen girls.

LM · « **Reply #114 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:38:55 AM »

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You have a problem, a major, major problem.

No, you have a problem with reality. Women lose their attractiveness and fertility much sooner than men. This is simply a fact - and you have trouble accepting it.

You are to full of yourself, and with a fixation for barely out of teen girls.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #115 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:40:04 AM »

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You have a problem, a major, major problem.

No, you have a problem with reality. Women lose their attractiveness and fertility much sooner than men. This is simply a fact - and you have trouble accepting it.

You are to full of yourself, and with a fixation for barely out teen girls.

You are trying to paint a natural desire for marriage to a young virgin as some sort of perversion, because you belong to a perverse society.

LM · « **Reply #116 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:48:14 AM »

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You have a problem, a major, major problem.

No, you have a problem with reality. Women lose their attractiveness and fertility much sooner than men. This is simply a fact - and you have trouble accepting it.

You are to full of yourself, and with a fixation for barely out teen girls.

You are trying to paint a natural desire for marriage to a young virgin as some sort of perversion, because you belong to a perverse society.

I said you have a fixation for barely out of teen girls, this problem is Your problem.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #117 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:50:17 AM »

While I agree there's nothing wrong with an older man wishing to marry a younger woman, it's also true that from the father's perspective, the only reason he might consider the older man a good match for his daughter would be financial stability or overall maturity. These would have to outweigh the negatives like the possibility of the girl one day becoming a widow and still having young children to care for. It's not unreasonable that a father would prefer his daughter to marry someone her own age -- especially if he himself is financially able to assist them as the young man becomes more established. If he thinks she will have no problems finding a suitable mate her own age, he has every reason to disuade her from taking an interest in an older man.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #118 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:50:34 AM »

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You have a problem, a major, major problem.

No, you have a problem with reality. Women lose their attractiveness and fertility much sooner than men. This is simply a fact - and you have trouble accepting it.

You are to full of yourself, and with a fixation for barely out teen girls.

You are trying to paint a natural desire for marriage to a young virgin as some sort of perversion, because you belong to a perverse society.

I said you have a fixation for barely out of teen girls, this problem is Your problem.

It's not a sin to prefer younger women - no matter how much you want it to be. Since it's not a sin, your very hostile attitude towards it is pharisaism. That makes it your problem.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #119 on:** March 22, 2011, 01:51:40 AM »

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While I agree there's nothing wrong with an older man wishing to marry a younger woman, it's also true that from the father's perspective, the only reason he might consider the older man a good match for his daughter would be financial stability or overall maturity. These would have to outweigh the negatives like the possibility of the girl one day becoming a widow and still having young children to care for. It's not unreasonable that a father would prefer his daughter to marry someone her own age -- especially if he himself is financially able to assist them as the young man becomes more established.

Sure, it's not unreasonable for a father to have preferences, but the bottom line is that it's not up to the father to decide. The SSPX has consciously acted to give people an impression contrary to church teachings, and that is inexcusable.