I'm not joking, but thanks for actually seriously addressing these concerns, instead of making weird accusations against me like other people.

You're right. In the middle ages these people were tolerated. But so were whore houses. So that's not always a measure.

The issue is that people with certain conditions, objectively cause moral harm to others if they are allowed to do certain things. Those of us who have alcoholics in the family know this. We don't give them a drink when they are in our company. Because its for their own good. Because they have a problem that will cause them harm if they are allowed to do certain things.

I'm not talking about locking people up. I'm not even talking about government intervention. I'm talking about something in between. The kind of thing that is left up to families to make decisions about, people they love, and how they respond to their condition. That's it. I'm sorry that some other people seem to be taking this so personally. I wonder why that is.

They call it a spectrum for a reason.

I don't want to talk about my personal situation. People so weird and prying here it bugs me out. But I do like your compassionate tone.

What I mean is that some people on the more functioning end of the spectrum, can and do cause moral harm. Which is sinful. Obviously. So my question is, should we try to encourage those people to take a step back from public internet access for the sake of avoiding that moral harm.

If some people are taking it so personally here on the forum, then there are a number of reasons. Yes it could be their melancholic temperament. But it could also be some people who are afraid to get diagnosed, because it would mean them having to think about their behavior online.

I think we should be considerate of people online just as we are considerate of people just as we are in real life. In real life we avoid certain situations (like I mentioned above) which cause us to cause harm to others. Why can't we do this online? why is it that just because it's online, that we can just be a totally rude and obnoxious person, when we are not allowed to do this in real life to our families and friends??? And if it is because of a condition we have (that maybe we are afraid to face up to), then maybe we should face up to it, and take the proper measures to avoid those situations.

Those of us who know autistic people know that its just training they need. But higher functioning ones are harder. Because we all know they have a problem, but maybe they have avoided diagnosis, or maybe they have got it, but ignore it. And because they are able to get have a job, we all think its ok. And that their behavior can be anything they want so long as its online with "not real people".

Am I making sense?
They call it a spectrum for a reason.

I don't want to talk about my personal situation. People so weird and prying here it bugs me out. But I do like your compassionate tone.

What I mean is that some people on the more functioning end of the spectrum, can and do cause moral harm. Which is sinful. Obviously. So my question is, should we try to encourage those people to take a step back from public internet access for the sake of avoiding that moral harm.

If some people are taking it so personally here on the forum, then there are a number of reasons. Yes it could be their melancholic temperament. But it could also be some people who are afraid to get diagnosed, because it would mean them having to think about their behavior online.

I think we should be considerate of people online just as we are considerate of people just as we are in real life. In real life we avoid certain situations (like I mentioned above) which cause us to cause harm to others. Why can't we do this online? why is it that just because it's online, that we can just be a totally rude and obnoxious person, when we are not allowed to do this in real life to our families and friends??? And if it is because of a condition we have (that maybe we are afraid to face up to), then maybe we should face up to it, and take the proper measures to avoid those situations.

Those of us who know autistic people know that its just training they need. But higher functioning ones are harder. Because we all know they have a problem, but maybe they have avoided diagnosis, or maybe they have got it, but ignore it. And because they are able to get have a job, we all think its ok. And that their behavior can be anything they want so long as its online with "not real people".

Am I making sense?

"girlytrad" has been banned for one reason and one reason only: lying about his gender on the forum.

I take that VERY seriously.

None of his posts have been deleted, none have even been edited. And yet he's permanently banned from the forum.

I won't say I agree with his posts. I won't say I agree with ANY of the contents of his posts. But it spurs discussion, and there is nothing morally wrong with expressing his ideas. The ideas themselves are insane, but if I deleted all "stupidity" from CathInfo, well -- the forum would take up a lot less hard drive space.

Human beings gonna human.

But break the forum rules, and you're out of here.

In this post They're accusing Ladislaus of being autistic. That post is a continuation of the other I guess. The OP doesn't say it explicitly, but I understand the post as an attack on Ladislaus.

Yeah, I immediately detected that from the OP.  It wasn't just the topic, but the tone and writing style.  No woman would speak about autistic people that way, without any hint of empathy, or compassion for their plight ... just in a very cold logical way.  Sure, men often do that ... but not women.

As soon as I started reading, I glanced at the account, saw the female indicator, and immediately thought ot allot "there's absolutely no way that a woman wrote this ... zero chance".  There was that one Saturday Night Live character who use to mock "girlymen", so I took the name "girlytrad" to be a mockery of wimpy effeminate Traditional Catholics ... but then I would expect at least identifying yourself as a man.

Are you sure the post is an attack on someone? The OP said they had some problems within their family with autistic people. No idea why someone would pretend to be female on here if they’re male. Perhaps they don’t want anyone to guess who they are in real life… if part of a large TLM parish for example..??