I'm talking about those of us who are not terminally online. People with actual family to care for. Friends, family with autism. And how to handle this. How to guide them.

People tend to spend more time on the internet than needed when they have nothing else to do. A lack of personal space to do things, funding, and spouse/children tends to do that.

People tend to spend more time on the internet than needed when they have nothing else to do. A lack of personal space to do things, funding, and spouse/children tends to do that.

That's a whole other can of worms right there.

Not talking about non verbal, low functioning ones. They're basically children.

But high functioning ones. Grown adults. With jobs.

In the same way we don't allow children or mad people online, (at least shouldnt), the question is, should a person with autistm be allowed to post online and carry on with their disconnected from reality nonsense, while people get scandalized by their weird behavior because they mistake them for normal people.

Should we, in an ideal world, allow these people to have any kind of public, uncontrolled presence online in front of ordinary people.

Serious question.

No way you're a female, you LARPing fraud.  No woman writes like this ... not just due to the content of your post, but also the writing style.  I'm surprised no one else has picked up on this.

I'm guessing you're the same jerk who was accusing me of being autistic on the Anonymous thread.

I’ve noticed a trend online, and CathInfo is no exception, that when one has a strong opinion in opposition to another, they get called autistic.  

I think we should be careful to use the term judiciously, especially when speaking to/about those we don’t know but by a screen name online. 

Austists are sick. You can't undo it. It is a permanent, chronic condition.

They will always have an imbalance there underneath their acquired habits.

You shouldnt confuse that with someone who is simply intelligent. This is the problem with discussion about autism by Gen Z ers. Its that it has become far too normalized, that they seem to have forgotten that autism is not just, not cool, but a sickness.

These people need limitations on their behavior by their families for their own good. Because they can harm themselves. They need care, even if they are high functioning ones.

What I think you don't understand is that autists can appear normal because they can function well with certain parts of their brain. Like with computers and math etc. etc. But life is more than that. Our behavior and its morality is judged by far more than our intellectual achievements. It is also about our interactions with other people.

Please define autists.  

Also I think you are talking about a personal situation you are dealing with at home. Is that right?

The people on this forum may think you are talking about some of the people on the forum.  Most of the melancholics are going "Is she talking about me?"

Please clarify.

Austists are sick. You can't undo it. It is a permanent, chronic condition.…

Ackshully… there are efficacious treatments.

As part of a larger project comparing "government-approved" research versus "alternative" research tonight I looked at dozens of medical conditions, including autism treatment and…

Autism


Observed Benefits from Government-Approved Studies, Trials, or Peer-Reviewed Publications
Allogeneic MSCs improve social communication and reduce repetitive behaviors in autism trials. Benefits include enhanced neural connectivity, primarily with allograft umbilical cord MSCs. 

Lv YT, Zhang Y, Liu M, et al. Transplantation of human cord blood mononuclear cells and umbilical cord-derived mesenchymal stem cells in autism. Journal of Translational Medicine. 2013;11:196. 

Riordan NH, Hincapié ML, Morales I, et al. Allogeneic human umbilical cord mesenchymal stem cells for the treatment of autism spectrum disorder in children: safety profile and effect on cytokine levels. Stem Cells Translational Medicine. 2019;8(10):1008-1016. 

Chez M, Lepage C, Parise C, et al. Safety and observations from a placebo-controlled, crossover study to assess use of autologous umbilical cord blood stem cells to improve symptoms in children with autism. Stem Cells Translational Medicine. 2018;7(3):333-341. 

Benefits Observed in Alternative or Anecdotal Reports
Anecdotal cases report better behavioral outcomes and communication skills. 

Dawson G, Sun JM, Baker J, et al. A phase II randomized clinical trial of the safety and efficacy of intravenous umbilical cord blood infusion for treatment of children with autism spectrum disorder. Journal of Pediatrics. 2020;222:164-173.e5. [odd that the most narrative-submissive medical specialty's journal was considered "alternative"]

Nguyen Thanh L, Nguyen HP, Ngo MD, et al. Outcomes of bone marrow mononuclear cell transplantation combined with interventional education for autism spectrum disorder. Stem Cells Translational Medicine. 2021;10(1):14-26. 

Adverse reactions include mild fever, no significant events (p>0.05). 

Riordan NH, Hincapié ML, Morales I, et al. Allogeneic human umbilical cord mesenchymal stem cells for the treatment of autism spectrum disorder in children: safety profile and effect on cytokine levels. Stem Cells Translational Medicine. 2019;8(10):1008-1016.

I know you’re probably joking but if these adults are high functioning and have jobs there is no way of stopping them accessing the internet. Unless they’re locked up in a mental hospital. Lots of crazy people online. In the old days all the crazy people had to shout in the town square or be quietly insane. Now they can post their deranged drivel for all to read. Just ignore it. Though obviously there are sections of the internet where people with mental illness encourage others to do immoral and dangerous things. But that’s not just autistic people.

I'm not joking, but thanks for actually seriously addressing these concerns, instead of making weird accusations against me like other people.

You're right. In the middle ages these people were tolerated. But so were whore houses. So that's not always a measure.

The issue is that people with certain conditions, objectively cause moral harm to others if they are allowed to do certain things. Those of us who have alcoholics in the family know this. We don't give them a drink when they are in our company. Because its for their own good. Because they have a problem that will cause them harm if they are allowed to do certain things.

I'm not talking about locking people up. I'm not even talking about government intervention. I'm talking about something in between. The kind of thing that is left up to families to make decisions about, people they love, and how they respond to their condition. That's it. I'm sorry that some other people seem to be taking this so personally. I wonder why that is.