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Poll

Which Catholic group do you feel best describes your current stance on the crisis?

Novus Ordo/Indult
3 (4.5%)
SSPX (Bishop Felay)
7 (10.4%)
SSPV (Bishop Kelly, RIP)
5 (7.5%)
Resistance (Bishop Zendejas)
11 (16.4%)
CMRI (Bishop Pivarunas)
8 (11.9%)
RCI (Bishop Sanborn)
8 (11.9%)
Home Alone
7 (10.4%)
I can't pick one
12 (17.9%)
Other
6 (9%)

Total Members Voted: 67

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Offline Gray2023

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Re: Allignment with which Catholic group.
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2026, 03:02:18 PM »
Putting belief that the present Pope is absolutely not a Pope on the same level as belief in the Virginity of the Blessed Mother, is not mentally balanced by anybody's measurement.
Who are these truly dogmatic sedes? Which sedes say it is dogma that we have to say he is not pope? I haven't met any of them.

Re: Allignment with which Catholic group.
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2026, 04:17:08 PM »
There are sedes who will not say it is dogma outright, but who act like it.

To them, una cuм is a sacrilegious Mass and a mortal sin to attend.

To them, SSPX and Resistance groups are objectively schismatic, just as the Eastern Schismatics are.

Many will say only sede's are true Christians. 

A lot of these errors stem from an exaggerated understanding of papal infallibility. 

Fr. Radecki of the CMRI in his catechism says that Encyclicals are infallible, for instance, and Bishop Sanborn treats anything put in the AAS as objectively authoritative and infallibly safe to follow, including Pius XII's Italian, private speech to midwives. 

Bishop Sanborn wrote an article entitled "Opinionism", stating that as Catholics we HAVE to solve the papacy question, or else we are not truly Catholic, since our salvation depends on submission to the Pope. 

He seems to forget there are many things pertaining to the crisis that simply have not been solved yet by the Church.

I know a sede who is associated with the Cassiciacuм Thesis crowd, and is so intolerant of those from the Resistance or SSPX, that he declared he would simply walk away from such a person upon learning their position on the crisis. Many sedes follow this sentiment as well, and spend an inordinate amount of time fighting with traditional Catholics who disagree with them.

All of this makes me very sad. The devils love it. It is a huge distraction from the interior life and growing in the love of God.


Re: Allignment with which Catholic group.
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2026, 04:36:35 PM »
Read Vatican I.  Cardinal Henry Manning clarifies definition of Papal Infallibility.  Also his work written "Temporal Mission of the Holy Ghost"

Re: Allignment with which Catholic group.
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2026, 05:24:26 PM »
Who are these truly dogmatic sedes? Which sedes say it is dogma that we have to say he is not pope? I haven't met any of them.

They are everywhere.

Offline Gray2023

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Re: Allignment with which Catholic group.
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2026, 05:49:38 PM »
There are sedes who will not say it is dogma outright, but who act like it.

To them, una cuм is a sacrilegious Mass and a mortal sin to attend.

To them, SSPX and Resistance groups are objectively schismatic, just as the Eastern Schismatics are.

Many will say only sede's are true Christians.

A lot of these errors stem from an exaggerated understanding of papal infallibility.

Fr. Radecki of the CMRI in his catechism says that Encyclicals are infallible, for instance, and Bishop Sanborn treats anything put in the AAS as objectively authoritative and infallibly safe to follow, including Pius XII's Italian, private speech to midwives.

Bishop Sanborn wrote an article entitled "Opinionism", stating that as Catholics we HAVE to solve the papacy question, or else we are not truly Catholic, since our salvation depends on submission to the Pope.

He seems to forget there are many things pertaining to the crisis that simply have not been solved yet by the Church.

I know a sede who is associated with the Cassiciacuм Thesis crowd, and is so intolerant of those from the Resistance or SSPX, that he declared he would simply walk away from such a person upon learning their position on the crisis. Many sedes follow this sentiment as well, and spend an inordinate amount of time fighting with traditional Catholics who disagree with them.

All of this makes me very sad. The devils love it. It is a huge distraction from the interior life and growing in the love of God.
It makes me very sad, too.

I guess we need to let the men hash it out and not worry about it.

In my 20 years of the crisis I have run into people in all the groups that are adamantly for the choice they made.  The group that seems to be the most non dogmatic is the CMRI, yet they have other issues.

I made this poll to remind people that it is really hard for the laity to make the correct choice, so focusing on prayers and sacrifices  hopefully will bring down graces to end the Crisis.

Some of us married women just follow our husband and let him guide us.  We need to trust that the authority God has assigned to us, leads us to Heaven and no where else.

Prayers for all.