Thank you for your words. That passage fits the current crisis well.
But is it a lie to put the name of a man who I do not give obedience to? Lying breaks one of the 10 commandments. Not putting the popes name in doesn't break one of the 10 commandments. Shouldn't we think about that? Isn't schism separating myself from the church and it's teachings? I think these are also important questions to ponder. Will we get answers? Only when God decides.
Isn't Schism not following the authority? Aren't we technically in schism from the Novus Ordo church? Is that a bad thing? Pope Leo is the head of this new thing. The true church seems to not have a head. I am just trying to understand this in the most basic terms. I don't want to start a fight and I know God will give us the answers in His time. All these questions are just how my brain works all the time. I don't expect answers and I am learning that I can keep my peace even if the questions aren't answered anytime soon.
Prayers for all.
I also don't want to argue about it, all I did was say what the Church has always taught, which is the reason why we do not pray for such a thing.
Priests and laypeople forget that it is only their opinion that the Chair is vacant. Fr. Wathen states it as the Church has always taught it....
"We say that that their private judgement in the matter must not be introduced into the Liturgy which is an official act of the Church. Their private judgement has no place in the sacred liturgy."The below is taken from
Pope Benedict XIV's Ex Quo:11. [...] "For Augustine, mindful that the Lord established the foundation of the Church on the Apostolic sees,
says that whosoever removes himself from the authority and communion of the prelates of those sees is in schism." He states plainly that there is no church apart from one which is firmly established on the pontifical bases of the Apostolic sees. Thus how can you believe that you are not separated from the communion of the whole world if you do not commemorate my name during the sacred mysteries, according to custom? For you see that
the strength of the Apostolic See resides in me, *despite my unworthiness*, through episcopal succession at the present time.”
13 [...] The clear result of all this is that the Latin and Greek churches agree in recognizing and affirming that the commemoration implies a profession of due subjection to the Roman pontiff as head of the Church,
and of a
willingness to remain in the unity of the Church. On the other hand the omission of this commemoration signifies the intention of steadfastly espousing schism.
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