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Offline Alan

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All Saints Day
« on: October 31, 2018, 09:34:45 AM »
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    • Dear all,

    Tomorrow will be All Saints Day, it's a holy day of obligation here.
    I've read somewhere that whenever it's a holy day of obligation, we have to refrain from work (like Sunday).
    Is this true??

    Thanks in advance.

    Alan
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    Re: All Saints Day
    « Reply #1 on: November 22, 2018, 04:56:23 PM »
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    • Does anyone know the answer??
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    Re: All Saints Day
    « Reply #2 on: November 22, 2018, 07:05:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: Alan on October 31, 2018, 09:34:45 AM
    Dear all,

    Tomorrow will be All Saints Day, it's a holy day of obligation here.
    I've read somewhere that whenever it's a holy day of obligation, we have to refrain from work (like Sunday).
    Is this true??

    Thanks in advance.

    Alan

    I have never heard such ruling. Maybe it would be possible in a Catholic nation, but where is that? Folk still have to go about their business performing their duties in order to keep their families and their jobs.
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    Re: All Saints Day
    « Reply #3 on: November 22, 2018, 07:37:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Alan on October 31, 2018, 09:34:45 AM
    Dear all,

    Tomorrow will be All Saints Day, it's a holy day of obligation here.
    I've read somewhere that whenever it's a holy day of obligation, we have to refrain from work (like Sunday).
    Is this true??

    Thanks in advance.

    Alan
    Yes.  There is no definition in the Ecclisiastical Dictionary of 1914 BUT...
    We were taught this in school; on the back of most Catholic calendars under "Holy Days of Obligation" it reads
    "All Sundays and (then lists the dates for the country you're in)."
    This is also the wording in most Pre Vat II missals.
    In the 1979 Modern Catholic Dictionary by Father John A. Hardon it states,
    "Holy Days of Obligation.  Feast days to be observed by attendance at Mass and rest, as far as possible, from unnecessary servile work."
    This is the same observation we make for Sundays.
    Prior to Vat II, people in necessary services, e.g. police, firemen, hospital workers etc were automatically exempt but anyone else had to get permission from their parish priest.  Even Catholic schools were closed on
    those days.

    It was always a mortal sin if the day wasn't observed the same as a Sunday.
    Nowadays we interpret according to our own wishes and behave as if we're our own authority,
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    Re: All Saints Day
    « Reply #4 on: November 22, 2018, 08:08:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on November 22, 2018, 07:37:47 PM
    Yes.  There is no definition in the Ecclisiastical Dictionary of 1914 BUT...
    We were taught this in school; on the back of most Catholic calendars under "Holy Days of Obligation" it reads
    "All Sundays and (then lists the dates for the country you're in)."
    This is also the wording in most Pre Vat II missals.
    In the 1979 Modern Catholic Dictionary by Father John A. Hardon it states,
    "Holy Days of Obligation.  Feast days to be observed by attendance at Mass and rest, as far as possible, from unnecessary servile work."
    This is the same observation we make for Sundays.
    Prior to Vat II, people in necessary services, e.g. police, firemen, hospital workers etc were automatically exempt but anyone else had to get permission from their parish priest.  Even Catholic schools were closed on

    those days.

    It was always a mortal sin if the day wasn't observed the same as a Sunday.
    Nowadays we interpret according to our own wishes and behave as if we're our own authority,
    That's right, so how come nobody knows about it?
    And should we observe this?
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    Re: All Saints Day
    « Reply #5 on: November 22, 2018, 08:09:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: Miseremini on November 22, 2018, 07:37:47 PM
    Yes.  There is no definition in the Ecclisiastical Dictionary of 1914 BUT...
    We were taught this in school; on the back of most Catholic calendars under "Holy Days of Obligation" it reads
    "All Sundays and (then lists the dates for the country you're in)."
    This is also the wording in most Pre Vat II missals.
    In the 1979 Modern Catholic Dictionary by Father John A. Hardon it states,
    "Holy Days of Obligation.  Feast days to be observed by attendance at Mass and rest, as far as possible, from unnecessary servile work."
    This is the same observation we make for Sundays.
    Prior to Vat II, people in necessary services, e.g. police, firemen, hospital workers etc were automatically exempt but anyone else had to get permission from their parish priest.  Even Catholic schools were closed on
    those days.

    It was always a mortal sin if the day wasn't observed the same as a Sunday.
    Nowadays we interpret according to our own wishes and behave as if we're our own authority,
    That's because most of us have no authority to turn to about moral and spiritual matters.  As much as I'd prefer to take off on holy days, I cannot and expect to keep a job.  When the times and conditions are irregular, the regular ecclesiastical observances do not apply, especially when they are impossible to follow!  Many of us do not have mass on Sundays much less on holy days.  
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    Re: All Saints Day
    « Reply #6 on: November 22, 2018, 09:22:53 PM »
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    • In my memory, it was never the rule that a holy day of obligation was a day of rest. The obligation was to attend Holy Mass. The majority of working people had a duty to their employers to be present at work on the occasions that holidays of obligation were not also public holidays. 

    The obligation to attend Holy Mass is conditional on its avalability.
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