Author Topic: All priests at a midwest priory are jabbed? (Read 1205 times)

CathSarto · « **on:** October 05, 2021, 11:49:02 AM »

In no way am I recommending this show, Restoring the Faith, but a friend passed this along to me because of what was said by Mike at the 1:00:44 minute mark.
Sounds like he is referring to St. Vincent's in KC.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #1 on:** October 05, 2021, 11:52:55 AM »

How do you know it's a reference to SSPX? Do we know of anyone in SSPX who died of the jab at a Midwest priory?

B from A · « **Reply #2 on:** October 05, 2021, 12:01:40 PM »

never mind

MichaelFullerSSPX · « **Reply #3 on:** October 05, 2021, 12:21:29 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on October 05, 2021, 11:52:55 AM

How do you know it's a reference to SSPX? Do we know of anyone in SSPX who died of the jab at a Midwest priory?

Yes. Fr. Bourmaud was not jabbed and around those priests shedding if that info is true. He was just made the prior of St. Vincent’s.

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** October 05, 2021, 12:51:57 PM »

The fact that significantly more than 1 SSPX priest has taken the abortion jab is evidence that there are severe problems in the SSPX.

I say it's a symptom of a larger disease: a liberalization, an opening to the Modern World (kind of like Vatican II!), where the Church all the sudden cares what worldlings think about their (the Church's) views on science, health, history, you name it.

Creation? Well, maybe God used evolution to create...
COVID 19? Oh that's a dangerous pandemic. There are justifications to use an injection which used/uses aborted fetuses.
The h0Ɩ0cαųst? Oh, that was the worst event ever. Never again! Never forget!
9/11? That was the worst event since the h0Ɩ0cαųst. It would have been even worse if a Jєω had died, among those 3,000 dead.* Never forget!

In every possible topic, the SSPX is worried and anxious to NOT be called bad names by hedonistic, atheist worldlings. Before, most SSPX priests and adherents didn't care.

* Ok that last one was a bit tongue in cheek, but you get the idea. It's true though: despite so many J-ws working in the World Trade Center buildings, none of them died on 9/11. Every one of them got a "warning" not to come in to work that day. But the Muslims are their mortal enemy. If 9/11 had been done by Muslims, the Rabb|s would have been working overtime doing funerals for all the J-wish victims. They don't call it J-w York for no reason. It's true. And yes, they are HEAVILY over-represented in Finance.

CathSarto · « **Reply #5 on:** October 05, 2021, 02:04:16 PM »

The cause of their demise is of a spiritual nature. They have offered the pinch of incense to Bergoglioism and apostate Rome and now, as an organization, cannot make the simplest of moral decisions in standing against and refusing the death jab.
Their silence on the globalist scamdemic was clear evidence of this debilitating cowardice. Lying to God every day, by saying you are one in faith with Francis, has got to have serious repercussions.

Matthew · « **Reply #6 on:** October 05, 2021, 02:49:51 PM »

Quote from: CathSarto on October 05, 2021, 02:04:16 PM

Lying to God every day, by saying you are one in faith with Francis, has got to have serious repercussions.

I see no reason to jettison the R&R position, embraced by +Lefebvre, which attracted the trust of something like 90% of Trad Catholics.
...just because +Fellay & co. decided to sell out to Modern Rome, embrace the World, Vatican II, stop being hated by the world, etc.

They are two separate issues. You can totally reject the liberalism of the neo-SSPX and still be faithful to +Lefebvre's original position on the Crisis.

+Lefebvre left an element of mystery to the Crisis. He didn't attempt to explain it A to Z. Perhaps that's what resonated with so many Trads -- up to 90%, looking at the breakdown by group of the whole Trad Catholic world.

What I BELIEVE about the Crisis is that it's a supernatural mystery. I can't explain how the Church could promote a noxious Mass. Sedes can't explain how there could be such a long 63 year Interregnum (and counting). But that's the point: it's a mystery.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #7 on:** October 05, 2021, 02:59:50 PM »

Quote from: MichaelFullerSSPX on October 05, 2021, 12:21:29 PM

Yes. Fr. Bourmaud was not jabbed and around those priests shedding if that info is true. He was just made the prior of St. Vincent’s.

So you're saying that Fr. Bourmaud was made prior of St. Vincent's before this happened and the other priests there may have been jabbed?

If that's the case, I would have little doubt that Fr. was killed by the shedders in the rectory. I love it how people accuse those who refuse the jab of being murderers ... whereas it's likely that case that the shedders are doing most of the damage. I too got very ill for about 3 weeks ... after the jab became widely available, and not in the 15 months before when COVID was raging.

MichaelFullerSSPX · « **Reply #8 on:** October 05, 2021, 03:00:32 PM »

Quote from: Matthew on October 05, 2021, 02:49:51 PM

. I can't explain how the Church could promote a noxious Mass. Sedes can't explain how there could be such a long 63 year Interregnum (and counting).

Actually, Bishop Pivarunas has a very good book called “Common objections to sedevacantism”, where he explains the interregnum very well. It was followed up by a conference and study of the booklet which was posted online.

It’s very hard to criticize something without understanding it fully. This is why so many who have left the Resistance and the SSPX can pick those groups apart so well when they become sedevacantists.

Matthew · « **Reply #9 on:** October 05, 2021, 03:06:32 PM »

Quote from: MichaelFullerSSPX on October 05, 2021, 03:00:32 PM

Actually, Bishop Pivarunas has a very good book called “Common objections to sedevacantism”, where he explains the interregnum very well.

Sez you.

There is no good explanation for why God would cease Petrine succession for -- not a couple years -- but SIXTY THREE YEARS and counting, with no end in sight! How is that distinguishable from the line of popes failing?

There IS no good explanation, once you put forward the 63-year interregnum as a fact. What is the longest uncontroverted interregnum? The second place, as it were? No more than a few years, I'll literally wager.

When John Public is caught red handed "kid diddling", there IS no good or justifiable explanation for it -- despite what someone might say. "I know John Public was caught red-handed messing with 2 young boys, but you need to read this book by so-and-so who explains (justifies) it very well."

Uh, NO. I don't think so.

MichaelFullerSSPX · « **Reply #10 on:** October 05, 2021, 03:09:00 PM »

Ok buddy.

Matthew · « **Reply #11 on:** October 05, 2021, 03:09:55 PM »

I found this. The "2nd longest interregnum" was 3 years. THREE YEARS!:

This leads us to consider the precedent found in ecclesiastical history for the consecration of bishops during the time of interregnum (the vacancy of the Apostolic See).
The following is an excerpt from Il Nuovo Osservatore Cattolico by Dr. Stephano Filiberto, who has a doctorate in Ecclesiastical History:

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“On November 29, 1268, Pope Clement IV died, and there began one of the longest periods of interregnum or vacancy of the papal office in the history of the Catholic Church. The cardinals at that time were to assemble in conclave in the city of Viterbo, but through the intrigues of Carlo d’Anglio, King of Naples, discord was sown among the members of the Sacred College and the prospect of any election grew more and more remote.
“After almost three years, the mayor of Viterbo enclosed the cardinals in a palace, allowing them only strict living rations, until a decision would be made which would give to the Church its visible Head. At last, on September 1, 1271, Pope Gregory X was elected to the Chair of Peter.
“During this long period of vacancy of the Apostolic See, vacancies also occurred in many dioceses throughout the world. In order that the priests and faithful might not be left without shepherds, bishops were elected and consecrated to fill the vacant sees. There were accomplished during this time twenty-one known elections and consecrations in various countries. The most important aspect of this historical precedent is that all of these consecrations of bishops were ratified by Pope Gregory X, who consequently affirmed the lawfulness of such consecrations.”

Here are a few examples of the bishops thus consecrated at the time of vacancy of the Apostolic See:

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1) In Avranches, France, Radulfus de Thieville, consecrated November, 1269;
2) In Aleria, Corsica, Nicolaus Forteguerra, consecrated 1270;
3) In Antivari, Epiro (Northwestern Greece), Caspar Adam, O.P., consecrated 1270;
4) In Auxerre, France, Erardus de Lesinnes, consecrated January, 1271;
5) In Cagli, Italy, Jacobus, consecrated September 8, 1270;
6) In Le Mans, France, Geoffridus d’Asse, consecrated 1270;
7) In Cefalu, Sicily, Petrus Taurs, consecrated 1269;
8) In Cervia, Italy, Theodoricus Borgognoni, O.P., consecrated 1270.

At this point, those who oppose the consecration of traditional Catholic bishops in our times might argue that the historical precedent cited was 700 years ago and that Pope Pius XII, in view of the illicit consecrations of bishops in the schismatic National Church of China, decreed that any consecration of a bishop performed without papal mandate carried with it the penalty of ipso facto excommunication for the consecrator and the consecrated.

Actually, that Interregnum only made it to 2 years 10 months.

And Sedes would have us believe that now, God has allowed the Church to be without a head for 63 years and counting, with no end in sight.

Literally most men alive today can't even remember there being a Pope? How many men, as a percentage, were at least 5 years old in 1958 when the last Pope died? I'll give you a hint: not many. These men are in their high 60's today and we lose a bunch of them every year.

CathSarto · « **Reply #12 on:** October 05, 2021, 03:31:10 PM »

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If that's the case, I would have little doubt that Fr. was killed by the shedders in the rectory. I love it how people accuse those who refuse the jab of being murderers ... whereas it's likely that case that the shedders are doing most of the damage. I too got very ill for about 3 weeks ... after the jab became widely available, and not in the 15 months before when COVID was raging.

Fr. Bourmaud was already at the priory, his position had just been changed. So if the narrative that he was not jabbed but the other priests were is to be believed, that means one of them shedded something so dangerous that it killed the unjabbed priest and the rest were perfectly fine. Seems like good ammunition in defense of the jab, doesn't it?
The faithful were told Father died of complications of "severe covid" due to the "variant". I guess no one got the memo that the jab is causing the variant. There is also the question of malpractice at the hospital.
Whatever the truth is, there is something seriously wrong going on.

MichaelFullerSSPX · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2021, 03:41:11 PM »

It’s your forum. You can derail the threads all you want with anti-sedevacantist rants. But it just makes it look like you are childlishly wanting to be right, whereas I admit that my position is not dogma nor infallible and subject to being wrong.

Back to the actual topic.

Fr. Bourmaud was put on a ventilator for three weeks. I think he may have had some form of asthma or COPD. So after three weeks, it was probably impossible for his diaphragm muscles to breathe on their own.

Whatever the case may be, I suspect there were people near him shedding. God only knows.

Matthew · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2021, 03:55:45 PM »

MichaelFuller,

You can derail threads with jabs against the Recognize & Resist position of +ABL, but I will continue to point out that Sedevacantism is no shangri-la, and is full of holes itself. My goal being to convince people that the Crisis in the Church has some element of MYSTERY -- as in UNKNOWN -- to it, such that we can't fully understand it.

Anyone who insists they have the Crisis figured out, wrapped up with a neat little bow, is in opposition to me.

You can disagree with me all you want, but I will continue to insist that there is no "dogma" where the Crisis in the Church is concerned, which is why I allow Sedevacantists on CathInfo. The fact is, there is a chance that none of us is 100% correct. Christ hasn't stepped in to dispel the mystery of the Crisis and/or sort everything out. Until then, it will REMAIN a supernatural mystery that no Trad personality or talking head will EVER be able to "solve", not even if this Crisis goes on past the year 2100.

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