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Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2021, 10:59:09 AM »
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    Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
    « Reply #2 on: September 13, 2021, 11:03:26 AM »
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  • https://tinyurl.com/n24e9bbr

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    Cullman is God's country, a little slice of German culture in the middle of the South, a not-negligible percentage of Catholics.  Far worse places to live.  I visited Christ the King Abbey twice when Abbot Leonard Giardina was living.

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    Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
    « Reply #3 on: September 13, 2021, 01:11:44 PM »
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  •  Regarding the first story link, I am wondering what part of it the responder in reply #1 considers to be “fanfiction”?  Even Fox News is carrying the story, and it is very plausible.

    I’ve heard that hospitals in eastern Washington are bracing for an influx of admission requests from Northern Idaho as the Idaho ICU’s are being overwhelmed.  I work part time for a funeral home in the Tri-Cities of eastern Washington and last Tuesday I helped with the visitation and Rosary for a 44 year old mother with children at home, very sad.  She didn’t have Covid, it was something like a seizure or stroke, but her ambulance was diverted to a hospital in Yakima, WA 70 miles away because the three TC hospitals were too full with Covid cases to admit her.  One could legitimately wonder if her chances of survival might have been better if she could have received treatment sooner at a local hospital, just as with the man in Alabama.  A couple of weeks ago I was on a First Call to the TC’s largest hospital.  The gentleman had died of Covid and they had already brought the remains down to their morgue (all three hospitals require us to be in full surgical dress if we go up to the lCU).  When the nurse brought the paper work she said they had patients in the ER waiting for someone in ICU to die so a bed would open up, that is how overfull they were.  


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    Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
    « Reply #4 on: September 13, 2021, 01:23:39 PM »
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  • LOL this is a crazy fanfiction how do people believe this...
    The point I’m trying to make is that Alabama town in the news.  It isn’t a bad place at all it is near Hanceville. 

    (They could have taken care of these patients and this man was refused medical care.  Innocent people are being murdered).   

    Traditional Catholics need to get more traditional and set up hospitals and clinics operated by traditional Catholic religious sisters. 
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    Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
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    Traditional Catholics need to get more traditional and set up hospitals and clinics operated by traditional Catholic religious sisters.
    ABSOLUTELY!!!  I've often thought that the decline in the number of professed men and women religious (who built and operated so many hospitals and schools) was as great, or more so, of a crisis as the decline in number of priests.  At my parish (I realize that belonging to a parish rather than a chapel is not politically correct here, but its what I do) at every Mass a prayer for vocations is said, which includes not only for the priesthood but also for the religious life.

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    They could have taken care of these patients and this man was refused medical care.  Innocent people are being murdered.

    With all due respect, you don't know this.  You have no idea what the capabilities are of the Cullman hospital, both capabilities and capacity vary greatly between hospitals.  In the Tri-Cities (Pasco, Kennewick, Richland) of eastern Washington, each with a hospital, if anyone comes in with a heart problem, after initial stabilization they are almost immediately flown to Sacred Heart in Spokane, 150 miles away, because of their excellent Heart Institute.  One of my co-workers needed to have heart surgery (I'm not sure the issue, but it wasn't a routine thing) and his local cardiologist referred him to a surgeon in Seattle, saying "you want someone well experienced for this procedure", and that experience wasn't available locally.

    The man had insurance (at 71 he was covered by Medicare Part A for hospitalization and most likely had Part B also).  Any hospital with the capability and capacity (an ICU cardiac care bed and sufficient medical staff to provide care) would have gladly taken him, especially knowing they would get paid.  He WAS NOT refused medical care, he received initial care and evaluation at Cullman (there is no indication in the story that he was sent home) and then transferred to the closest available facility that had the capability to provide the care he needed.  If Cullman had chosen to admit him so they could collect the insurance money, knowing that they couldn't provide the level of care he needed, that would have been malpractice and immoral. 

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    Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
    « Reply #6 on: September 13, 2021, 04:01:00 PM »
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  • ABSOLUTELY!!!  I've often thought that the decline in the number of professed men and women religious (who built and operated so many hospitals and schools) was as great, or more so, of a crisis as the decline in number of priests.  At my parish (I realize that belonging to a parish rather than a chapel is not politically correct here, but its what I do) at every Mass a prayer for vocations is said, which includes not only for the priesthood but also for the religious life.

    With all due respect, you don't know this.  You have no idea what the capabilities are of the Cullman hospital, both capabilities and capacity vary greatly between hospitals.  In the Tri-Cities (Pasco, Kennewick, Richland) of eastern Washington, each with a hospital, if anyone comes in with a heart problem, after initial stabilization they are almost immediately flown to Sacred Heart in Spokane, 150 miles away, because of their excellent Heart Institute.  One of my co-workers needed to have heart surgery (I'm not sure the issue, but it wasn't a routine thing) and his local cardiologist referred him to a surgeon in Seattle, saying "you want someone well experienced for this procedure", and that experience wasn't available locally.

    The man had insurance (at 71 he was covered by Medicare Part A for hospitalization and most likely had Part B also).  Any hospital with the capability and capacity (an ICU cardiac care bed and sufficient medical staff to provide care) would have gladly taken him, especially knowing they would get paid.  He WAS NOT refused medical care, he received initial care and evaluation at Cullman (there is no indication in the story that he was sent home) and then transferred to the closest available facility that had the capability to provide the care he needed.  If Cullman had chosen to admit him so they could collect the insurance money, knowing that they couldn't provide the level of care he needed, that would have been malpractice and immoral.

    Cullman is a very small town, about an hour north of Birmingham.  I have to think that any hospital there, would be limited in what it could do.

    If you ever wanted to live anywhere peaceful and quiet, not in the mountains but in rolling hill country, Cullman would be the place.

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    Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
    « Reply #7 on: September 13, 2021, 04:04:32 PM »
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  • Cullman is God's country, a little slice of German culture in the middle of the South, a not-negligible percentage of Catholics.  Far worse places to live.  I visited Christ the King Abbey twice when Abbot Leonard Giardina was living.

    I went there also to visit Abbot Leonard when I was considering a vocation there.  Something about it rubbed me the wrong way, and I couldn't put a finger on it ... or I just didn't feel like it was a fit for me.


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    Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
    « Reply #8 on: September 13, 2021, 07:35:07 PM »
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  • Cullman is a very small town, about an hour north of Birmingham.  I have to think that any hospital there, would be limited in what it could do.

    If you ever wanted to live anywhere peaceful and quiet, not in the mountains but in rolling hill country, Cullman would be the place.
    It sounds lovely, but one has to strike a balance if a choice is available.  There was a beautiful area of Maryland where my grandparents said they wanted to retire instead of staying in Queens, NY.  When the time actually came, they settled for a small town in Connecticut because of health and mobility issues.  In Maryland, the nearest hospital was 35 miles away, and it wasn’t much of a hospital, fine for routine care, uncomplicated broken bones, stitches, appendectomy, tonsillectomy, etc.  My grandfather had survived an aneurysm, and was at great risk for another, or fatal stroke or heart attack.  The little hospital was not sufficient.  The nearest place they could deal with him was Johns Hopkins, at minimum, a three hour drive around Chesapeake Bay.  There was NO local shopping, trash disposal, snow removal, yard and home maintenance, other services, not even a gas station!  Both were unable to do much physical work.  Had they been 20 years younger, it’d have been different, but few people get to retire at 47!  With Soc. Security bankrupt (stolen), and the economy crashing, retirement isn’t happening for most of us.  The world’s concept of retirement is not Catholic, anyhow.

    V-C-R !  Traditional Catholic orders running schools, hospitals, care homes?  Ideally, yes, of course.  I highly doubt I’ll live to see it. (Okay, Doubting Thomas?). Where are the sisters, brothers, and priests, the religious orders to operate these charities?  Flushed down the Conciliar toilet!  At present, any such institutions would need to work in secret because they’d be instantly shut down by the communists, Freemasons, tyrants and dictators who’ve been permitted to take over.  God is not mocked.  He judges and imposes collective punishments on nations and societies who forsake Him and spit in His Face.  He doubly punishes those who disrespect His Holy Mother.  But, take heart!  “He who endures to the end, the same shall be saved.  This is the patience of the Saints, of whom the world is not worthy.” (Matt. 24:13, Apoc. 14:12, Heb. 11:38)

    If tradcats want to help, assist those among you who are elderly, disabled, alone, no children, no families, or social networks to fall back upon.  The Vat.II Church has abandoned Her duties towards the orphans, the elderly, the poor—-especially those who ARE “of the household of the Faith.” (Gal. 6:10)  Now, if someone is NOT Catholic, “indigenous,” worships idols, worships Satan, non-Caucasian, speaks an indigenous language, or is a sɛҳuąƖ deviant, it’s another matter!  Francis may summon you to dine with him and kiss your feet. It’ll be all over YouTube, Twitter, TikTok, or whatever.  He’ll NOT preach the true Gospel to you, rather, you’ll be rewarded with material goods and the praises of men while your soul falls into Hell.  Is this harsh?  Yes, but it’s true; the kindest way I can put it. I challenge anyone to prove otherwise! 


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    Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
    « Reply #9 on: September 14, 2021, 02:22:59 AM »
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  • The point I’m trying to make is that Alabama town in the news.  It isn’t a bad place at all it is near Hanceville. 

    (They could have taken care of these patients and this man was refused medical care.  Innocent people are being murdered). 

    Traditional Catholics need to get more traditional and set up hospitals and clinics operated by traditional Catholic religious sisters.
    Agreed. The news is attempting to demonize small town America too. That's another angle that's implicit, they want you to hate rural/small town America.
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    Re: All of a sudden Cullman, Alabama makes news
    « Reply #10 on: September 14, 2021, 08:52:35 PM »
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  • I went there also to visit Abbot Leonard when I was considering a vocation there.  Something about it rubbed me the wrong way, and I couldn't put a finger on it ... or I just didn't feel like it was a fit for me.
    I visited with Abbot Leonard as well, twice, but just as a married layman on self-directed retreat (I stayed in Cullman, not at the abbey), I wasn't considering a vocation.  I didn't get any bad vibe in the least.  He pulled out all the stops to make me welcome.