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AKITA and the FATIMA SECRET
« on: December 19, 2015, 04:34:17 PM »
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  • Published on Nov 3, 2015

    This film explains God's supernatural solution for peace. Many people have been deceived to believe, especially with the 2015 Russian airstrikes in Syria, that preventing a third world war is not possible. Jesus would not ask us to pray for something impossible. In the Our Father prayer the words "Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven" inform us that God's kingdom on earth is possible. This period of peace, is explained in the Akita and the Fatima Secret docuмentary. Unfortunately, Satan's efforts to suppress or distort the truth has resulted in many people never hearing about Akita or misunderstanding Fatima. The Vatican did not release the final part of the Fatima secret in 1960 as instructed by the Blessed Virgin. Fortunately, the 1960 secret became known 13 years later with the Catholic Church authentication of miracles in Akita, Japan. Sister Agnes Sasagawa, the central person in the Akita miracles, said after watching this docuмentary that it is communicating information that she has wanted people to know for a very long time. This docuмentary is very important for everyone to watch to avoid the great deception currently underway by Satan and his helpers.


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    « Reply #1 on: December 21, 2015, 05:05:13 PM »
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  • I have a hard time taking Akita seriously.  If Our Lady was going to speak with Novus Ordo nuns in a Novus Ordo chapel, would she not be telling them to get out of the Novus Ordo?  Instead this has her legitimatizing this condemned rite and leaving these women in it - and getting "pilgrims" to come, etc. etc.  For such a seeming "blessing from Our Lady" on the condemned New Mass - the devil would speak a few words of seeming truth akin to Fatima.

     


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    « Reply #2 on: December 21, 2015, 08:15:53 PM »
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  •   Have to wonder how we often forget the Holy Sacrifice is not mentioned
    in so many modern so called Apparition since Fatima.  I hope many realize
    LATIN is the Official Church Language and not Vernacular !

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    « Reply #3 on: December 23, 2015, 03:28:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: Merry
    I have a hard time taking Akita seriously.  If Our Lady was going to speak with Novus Ordo nuns in a Novus Ordo chapel, would she not be telling them to get out of the Novus Ordo?  Instead this has her legitimatizing this condemned rite and leaving these women in it - and getting "pilgrims" to come, etc. etc.  For such a seeming "blessing from Our Lady" on the condemned New Mass - the devil would speak a few words of seeming truth akin to Fatima.

     

    I thought that at first also. But then I wondered how many Catholic Churches exist in Japan, and if ANY of them offer the TLM. If one has no choice, one is not responsible for not choosing wisely. As far as Our Blessed Mother is concerned, she appears to whomever she chooses, even if it is in a part of the world that suffers from the lack of the TLM.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    « Reply #4 on: December 24, 2015, 09:51:08 AM »
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    Have to wonder how we often forget the Holy Sacrifice is not mentioned in so many modern so called Apparition since Fatima.  I hope many realize LATIN is the Official Church Language and not Vernacular !


    Wherever Our Lady has appeared in our world she has given her words to the people in their own language.  At Fatima, it was in Portuguese and entirely comprehensible to the shepherd children who understood her perfectly well.  

    In Mexico City, 1531, she appeared to Juan Diego and spoke to him in Nahuatl, the indigenous Aztec language which Juan Diego spoke from childhood, his "mother's tongue."

    At Rue de Bac, France and at Lourdes, and at La Salette, she spoke French.  

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    I have a hard time taking Akita seriously.  If Our Lady was going to speak with Novus Ordo nuns in a Novus Ordo chapel, would she not be telling them to get out of the Novus Ordo?  Instead this has her legitimatizing this condemned rite and leaving these women in it - and getting "pilgrims" to come, etc. etc.  For such a seeming "blessing from Our Lady" on the condemned New Mass - the devil would speak a few words of seeming truth akin to Fatima.

     

    I thought that at first also. But then I wondered how many Catholic Churches exist in Japan, and if ANY of them offer the TLM. If one has no choice, one is not responsible for not choosing wisely. As far as Our Blessed Mother is concerned, she appears to whomever she chooses, even if it is in a part of the world that suffers from the lack of the TLM.


    In all of Japan for many years now there has been one priest offering the TLM, Fr. Nariai, and he has very few faithful assisting, many times he is alone saying his Mass.  

    You won't find any sedevacantists interested in Akita for this very reason, and that reason is that Our Lady of Akita respected the local Ordinary, Bishop Ito, who was a Novus Ordo bishop.  Don't forget that at Lourdes, when she told Bernadette, "I am the Immaculate Conception," it was AFTER the Pope had defined the Immaculate Conception as a dogma of the faith only 4 years previously.  

    Effectively, the Blessed Virgin Mary waits for the Pope, her Son's Vicar on earth.

    Likewise, today, she waits for the Pope to command his bishops to consecrate Russia together with him as she has requested.

    In 1945, the two cities where there were more Catholic Japanese than anywhere else were destroyed by atomic bombs.  They were Heroshima and Nagasaki.  This is why the words of Our Lady (in Japanese, to a deaf woman!) 30 years later at Akita were all the more meaningful, when she foretold fire falling from the sky.  In Japan they know all too well what that is all about.  She was speaking their language in more ways than one!

    We ought to be cautious presuming to judge apparitions based on our own expectations.  If we are aware of the danger to our faith that the Newmass and Novus Ordo trappings pose, we should count ourselves fortunate.  But we can't reasonably presume to impose that awareness on others like Sister Sasagawa who are under obedience in their orders.  It isn't too different from our situation regarding the Orthodox like in Russia, which is germane to the Fatima message.  In the end, it will be an act of God, through His Blessed Mother, to convert Russia, and we can expect that it won't be to the Novus Ordo Newmass that she will be converting them, but to the immortal Catholic Faith of Tradition.  In that regard, it is WE who are keeping that Tradition alive, since Rome is aggressively busy forgetting it.

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    « Reply #5 on: December 28, 2015, 12:24:13 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    Have to wonder how we often forget the Holy Sacrifice is not mentioned in so many modern so called Apparition since Fatima.  I hope many realize LATIN is the Official Church Language and not Vernacular !


    Wherever Our Lady has appeared in our world she has given her words to the people in their own language.  At Fatima, it was in Portuguese and entirely comprehensible to the shepherd children who understood her perfectly well.  

    In Mexico City, 1531, she appeared to Juan Diego and spoke to him in Nahuatl, the indigenous Aztec language which Juan Diego spoke from childhood, his "mother's tongue."

    At Rue de Bac, France and at Lourdes, and at La Salette, she spoke French.  

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    Quote from: Merry

    I have a hard time taking Akita seriously.  If Our Lady was going to speak with Novus Ordo nuns in a Novus Ordo chapel, would she not be telling them to get out of the Novus Ordo?  Instead this has her legitimatizing this condemned rite and leaving these women in it - and getting "pilgrims" to come, etc. etc.  For such a seeming "blessing from Our Lady" on the condemned New Mass - the devil would speak a few words of seeming truth akin to Fatima.

     

    I thought that at first also. But then I wondered how many Catholic Churches exist in Japan, and if ANY of them offer the TLM. If one has no choice, one is not responsible for not choosing wisely. As far as Our Blessed Mother is concerned, she appears to whomever she chooses, even if it is in a part of the world that suffers from the lack of the TLM.


    In all of Japan for many years now there has been one priest offering the TLM, Fr. Nariai, and he has very few faithful assisting, many times he is alone saying his Mass.  

    You won't find any sedevacantists interested in Akita for this very reason, and that reason is that Our Lady of Akita respected the local Ordinary, Bishop Ito, who was a Novus Ordo bishop.  Don't forget that at Lourdes, when she told Bernadette, "I am the Immaculate Conception," it was AFTER the Pope had defined the Immaculate Conception as a dogma of the faith only 4 years previously.  

    Effectively, the Blessed Virgin Mary waits for the Pope, her Son's Vicar on earth.

    Likewise, today, she waits for the Pope to command his bishops to consecrate Russia together with him as she has requested.

    In 1945, the two cities where there were more Catholic Japanese than anywhere else were destroyed by atomic bombs.  They were Heroshima and Nagasaki.  This is why the words of Our Lady (in Japanese, to a deaf woman!) 30 years later at Akita were all the more meaningful, when she foretold fire falling from the sky.  In Japan they know all too well what that is all about.  She was speaking their language in more ways than one!

    We ought to be cautious presuming to judge apparitions based on our own expectations.  If we are aware of the danger to our faith that the Newmass and Novus Ordo trappings pose, we should count ourselves fortunate.  But we can't reasonably presume to impose that awareness on others like Sister Sasagawa who are under obedience in their orders.  It isn't too different from our situation regarding the Orthodox like in Russia, which is germane to the Fatima message.  In the end, it will be an act of God, through His Blessed Mother, to convert Russia, and we can expect that it won't be to the Novus Ordo Newmass that she will be converting them, but to the immortal Catholic Faith of Tradition.  In that regard, it is WE who are keeping that Tradition alive, since Rome is aggressively busy forgetting it.

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    Thank you Neil, for shining the light of Truth on this. How blessed we are to have the fullness of the faith, which is not available to so many others. (Which increases our obligation to pray for them.) Perhaps Our Lady was making a point, not only in speaking to one deaf, but in appearing to one deprived of the fullness of the faith.
    Pray for the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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    « Reply #6 on: December 28, 2015, 01:27:09 PM »
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  • I don't understand why it is considered unreasonable to say that one is skeptical of a Novus Ordo apparition?  I like to think that I love Our Lady and am especially devoted to Fatima.  But I simply am not going to feel the same about Akita. Unless they are suppressing something that was "said," none of these locutions seem to warn against the New Church or participating in the New Church.  They don't discourage but presume and encourage participation.  Lourdes was traditional, Fatima was traditional -- even the nuclear bombs on Japan and the Jesuit house miracle there -- were all pre-Vatican II.  Akita is Novus Ordo.  I am simply skeptical and say it doesn't have the same bearing as Fatima and I can't feel the same about it.  Others can be devotees if they would like.  They are just as free.  I don't mean to offend anyone.