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Aging Feminist Careerists
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  • It is not until it is too late in life that many women suspect that feminism is not all it is cracked up to be, and that it is NOT KIND TO WOMEN.

    Just look at all those lonely "feminist careerists" who have wasted their youth and child-bearing years competing against men, and trying to beat them at their own game - instead of cooperating with them and bonding with them.

    Now they find themselves with no husband to keep them warm at night. Now they find themselves childless and handicapped at various points.

    It is only after years of such experience that they develop the emptiness and the inferiority complex which is characteristic of many educated Western women today.

    In struggling to free themselves from the limitations of an "over-strict tradition," women have, by their use of the “rights” of feminism, created an unforeseen menace for themselves.

    "The feminist movement is just not compatible with happiness." ~ Phyllis Schlafly.



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  • What a heavy price they paid for their liberation.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    « Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 09:44:50 AM »
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  • What a heavy price they paid for their liberation.

    Heavy price to pay indeed... but it doesn't stop these feminists from doubling down on stupid...

    Recent article in the Washington Post...

    Washington Post 


    Why can’t we hate men?
    By Suzanna Danuta Walters
    June 8, 2018 at 8:13 PM

    Film producer Harvey Weinstein leaves court in New York on June 5. (Brendan Mcdermid/Reuters)
    Suzanna Danuta Walters, a professor of sociology and director of the Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies Program at Northeastern University, is the editor of the gender studies journal Signs.
    It’s not that Eric Schneiderman (the now-former New York attorney general accused of abuse by multiple women) pushed me over the edge. My edge has been crossed for a long time, before President Trump, before Harvey Weinstein, before “mansplaining” and“incels.” Before live-streaming sexual assaults and red pill men’s groups andrape camps as a tool of war and the deadening banality of male prerogative.
    Seen in this indisputably true context, it seems logical to hate men. I can’t lie, I’ve always had a soft spot for the radical feminist smackdown, for naming the problem in no uncertain terms. I’ve rankled at the “but we don’t hate men” protestations of generations of would-be feminists and found the “men are not the problem, this system is” obfuscation too precious by half.
    But, of course, the criticisms of this blanket condemnation of men — from transnational feminists who decry such glib universalism to U.S. women of color who demand an intersectional perspective — are mostly on the mark. These critics rightly insist on an analysis of male power as institutional, not narrowly personal or individual or biologically based in male bodies. Growing movements to challenge a masculinity built on domination and violence and to engage boys and men in feminism are both gratifying and necessary. Please continue.
    But this recognition of the complexity of male domination (how different it can be in different parts of the world, how racism shapes it) should not — must not — mean we forget some universal facts.
    Pretty much everywhere in the world, this is true: Women experience sexual violence, and the threat of that violence permeates our choices big and small. In addition, male violence is not restricted to intimate-partner attacks or sexual assault but plagues us in the form of terrorism and mass gun violence. Women are underrepresented in higher-wage jobs, local and federal government, business, educational leadership, etc.; wage inequality continues to permeate every economy and almost every industry; women continue to provide far higher rates of unpaid labor in the home (e.g., child care, elder care, care for disabled individuals, housework and food provision); women have less access to education, particularly at the higher levels; women have lower rates of property ownership.
    The list goes on. It varies by country, but these global realities — of women’s economic, political, social and sexual vulnerabilities — are, well, real. Indeed, the nations in which these inequities have been radically minimized (e.g., Iceland) are those in which deliberate effort has been made to both own up to gender disparities and to address them directly and concretely.
    So, in this moment, here in the land of legislatively legitimated toxic masculinity, is it really so illogical to hate men? For all the power of #MeToo and #TimesUp and the women’s marches, only a relatively few men have been called to task, and I’ve yet to see a mass wave of prosecutions or even serious recognition of wrongdoing. On the contrary, cries of “witch hunt” and the plotted resurrection of celebrity offenders came quick on the heels of the outcry over endemic sexual harassment and violence. But we’re not supposed to hate them because . . . #NotAllMen. I loveMichelle Obama as much as the next woman, but when they have gone low for all of human history, maybe it’s time for us to go all Thelma and Louise and Foxy Brown on their collective butts.
    The world has little place for feminist anger. Women are supposed to support, not condemn, offer succor not dismissal. We’re supposed to feel more empathy for your fear of being called a harasser than we are for the women harassed. We are told he’s with us and #NotHim. But, truly, if he were with us, wouldn’t this all have ended a long time ago? If he really were with us, wouldn’t he reckon that one good way to change structural violence and inequity would be to refuse the power that comes with it?
    So men, if you really are #WithUs and would like us to not hate you for all the millennia of woe you have produced and benefited from, start with this: Lean out so we can actually just stand up without being beaten down. Pledge to vote for feminist women only. Don’t run for office. Don’t be in charge of anything. Step away from the power. We got this. And please know that your crocodile tears won’t be wiped away by us anymore. We have every right to hate you. You have done us wrong. #BecausePatriarchy. It is long past time to play hard for Team Feminism. And win.

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    Re: Aging Feminist Careerists
    « Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 10:10:13 AM »
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  • I think that feminism even affects traditional Catholic women. 

    Maybe I'm just speaking for myself, but I struggle constantly against the temptation to feel sorry for myself when I see many modern women running around with designer clothes, no sick or whiny children, no major cooking or laundry projects EVERY day, no grumpy husband, no commitments...just independence and money from a nice job.  I know that it's not what God designed a woman for.  But the package looks so nice!  I crave just 5 minutes to use the bathroom in peace. 

    And then, too, feminism is against the whole "submit to your husband", and "head of the house" thing.  We're told from childhood that household leadership should be shared.  And the chores should be shared.  And parenting.  Honestly: how many traditional women write out the checks to pay the bills?  Who balances the checkbooks?  So many times it's the women, when it should be the man. 

    Feminism is a liberal poison that has affected many.  I try not to succumb to it, but I just wonder how affected everyone is by it?  Even traditional Catholic women.   

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    Re: Aging Feminist Careerists
    « Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 03:14:36 PM »
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  • Honestly: how many traditional women write out the checks to pay the bills?  Who balances the checkbooks?  So many times it's the women, when it should be the man.

    Not necessarily. Women are naturally domestic and concerned with things inside the four walls of the home, including the larder and any supplies. Bookkeeping, while not exactly an emasculating occupation, is certainly in line with feminine nature. Hence the large number of bookkeepers and accountants that are female today. They are often quite good at it.

    But my other point: there's a huge difference between:

    Keeping the books, paying the bills, cutting checks (like a secretary)
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    Being the "responsible" one, being in charge/control of the finances, making the financial decisions

    Let's face it -- many a sole proprietor (who OWNS his own company) farms out the bookkeeping/accounting to hired help, usually a woman, who sometimes doubles as a secretary. Does that mean he's giving up control of his company to some female secretary? Of course not. I assure you that any business owner is keeping the necessary -- and best -- part for himself. But a man can't do everything. He needs to focus on ongoing education, finding more customers/clients, new products, etc., plus doing all kinds of work for his customers/clients. He doesn't need to be a bookkeeper as well.
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    Re: Aging Feminist Careerists
    « Reply #5 on: June 12, 2018, 03:25:55 PM »
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  • Not necessarily. Women are naturally domestic and concerned with things inside the four walls of the home, including the larder and any supplies. Bookkeeping, while not exactly an emasculating occupation, is certainly in line with feminine nature. Hence the large number of bookkeepers and accountants that are female today. They are often quite good at it.

    But my other point: there's a huge difference between:

    Keeping the books, paying the bills, cutting checks (like a secretary)
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    Being the "responsible" one, being in charge/control of the finances, making the financial decisions

    Let's face it -- many a sole proprietor (who OWNS his own company) farms out the bookkeeping/accounting to hired help, usually a woman, who sometimes doubles as a secretary. Does that mean he's giving up control of his company to some female secretary? Of course not. I assure you that any business owner is keeping the necessary -- and best -- part for himself. But a man can't do everything. He needs to focus on ongoing education, finding more customers/clients, new products, etc., plus doing all kinds of work for his customers/clients. He doesn't need to be a bookkeeper as well.

    It also depends on the culture. In Japan, for instance, which used to be one of the most patriarchal societies, the housewives are traditionally the ones who do it.  
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    Re: Aging Feminist Careerists
    « Reply #6 on: June 12, 2018, 03:33:17 PM »
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  • But yes, the traditional 1950's matriarchal nonsense, where the woman is IN CHARGE of the finances, dominates them, or is the closest thing to a responsible adult when it comes to the household finances -- yes, that's a problem.

    Refer to all kinds of jokes on the subject, including the Jetson's intro. George Jetson fishes a few bills out of his wallet to give his wife for shopping, and she takes the wallet and leaves. As if George is too dumb, or doesn't have the right, to allocate the right amount to this specific shopping trip. Call me what you will, but I don't find gags like that funny AT ALL. That whole "you silly dummy" attitude towards men is quite sickening, and it's ALL OVER Hollywood. And not just for the past 20 years, but more like the past 80 years!

    I don't know why the Goyim found (still find?) these kind of jokes funny, but the Jews keep beating on these same stale, old jokes like a rented mule. You almost can't find a cartoon or movie where the "stupid dad" trope isn't present.
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    Re: Aging Feminist Careerists
    « Reply #7 on: June 12, 2018, 03:47:39 PM »
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  • Maybe I'm just speaking for myself, but I struggle constantly against the temptation to feel sorry for myself when I see many modern women running around with designer clothes, no sick or whiny children, no major cooking or laundry projects EVERY day, no grumpy husband, no commitments...just independence and money from a nice job.  I know that it's not what God designed a woman for.  But the package looks so nice!  I crave just 5 minutes to use the bathroom in peace.

    I think this is just a public facade and the propaganda they want us to see as part of social re-engineering. This type of woman is actually broken inside. As they age, they start engaging in all kinds of silly eccentricities (having pets as children is one very common example today).

    Many, many women have this staggering ability to live in a constant state of self-delusion, all their lives. They completely refuse to see reality for what it is.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    « Reply #8 on: June 12, 2018, 03:56:33 PM »
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  • Stupidity...you got that right.

    I know of a career woman who wears things like: above the knee, tight, bright red skirts, sleeveless shirts, and high heels (without socks) -- all at the same time. And women like this expect to be taken seriously at work -- and even be paid the same as men, who are all-business, and are there ONLY TO WORK? Hahaha, don't make me laugh!

    And this woman isn't "available" either -- on paper, at least, she would deny being on the hunt for a man. She has 2 kids, and some kind of man in her life (I don't know if he's the father of her 2 kids).

    Meanwhile all the men in her office are business casual -- wearing attire like dressy shoes (with socks of course -- you don't see any toes or bare feet), at least short sleeves, long pants (you don't see any bare legs or knees). Why is there a double-standard for what women can wear in a business setting?

    If I came to work with my knees showing, my entire upper arms showing, and sandals without socks, people would NOT take me seriously in the business world. But if a woman does the same thing, we're supposed to take her seriously and pay her 100% of what a man would make. Huh?

    Call me whatever you want, but if I had two qualified candidates for a $100K position -- one of whom was there to work, and the other was there to work "and look pretty/show off her body to troll for men", I'd go with the one who's there to work!
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  • The women who dress like men (in pantsuits, covering up everything that men do) are the only consistent ones in the feminist world. They are messed up trying to be men, but at least they have a leg to stand on when they cry, "We don't make as much as a man would in the same job description!"
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  • As they age, they start engaging in all kinds of silly eccentricities (having pets as children is one very common example today).


    See what I mean?  :facepalm:





    And this attention-seeking woman is only 26! I can only wonder the things she will do once she reaches menopause.

    Another trend I notice frequently is them having sodomite males as "best friends", for some unknown reason.
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    « Reply #11 on: June 12, 2018, 09:11:47 PM »
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    Stupidity...you got that right.

    I know of a career woman who wears things like: above the knee, tight, bright red skirts, sleeveless shirts, and high heels (without socks) -- all at the same time. And women like this expect to be taken seriously at work -- and even be paid the same as men, who are all-business, and are there ONLY TO WORK? Hahaha, don't make me laugh!

    Laughable is also that these women will loudly boast of their degrees and their careers to men, as if men actually cared about those things!   ::)
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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  • Laughable is also that these women will loudly boast of their degrees and their careers to men, as if men actually cared about those things!   ::)
    Feminism is full of contradictions because it is fundamentally sinful. 

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  • I think that feminism even affects traditional Catholic women.

    Maybe I'm just speaking for myself, but I struggle constantly against the temptation to feel sorry for myself when I see many modern women running around with designer clothes, no sick or whiny children, no major cooking or laundry projects EVERY day, no grumpy husband, no commitments...just independence and money from a nice job.  I know that it's not what God designed a woman for.  But the package looks so nice!  I crave just 5 minutes to use the bathroom in peace.

    And then, too, feminism is against the whole "submit to your husband", and "head of the house" thing.  We're told from childhood that household leadership should be shared.  And the chores should be shared.  And parenting.  Honestly: how many traditional women write out the checks to pay the bills?  Who balances the checkbooks?  So many times it's the women, when it should be the man.

    Feminism is a liberal poison that has affected many.  I try not to succumb to it, but I just wonder how affected everyone is by it?  Even traditional Catholic women.  
    Most of those happy young women become very angry and bitter when one day they wake up at 45 years old with no children and no way of ever having them. I've even seen articles written by feminist women admitting they went beserk when they realised it. They often have awful awful later years, and in their younger years too they trade the joys of seeing their children grow up for slaving away at some job. They've replaced a worship for God with a worship for careers, who else is so obsessed with careers and pretends to like working as much as women who've been led to believe it somehow makes them free? 
    Meanwhile you will get to see your children grow up and when you're older you'll get to see them as bright happy young adults starting their own families. You'll get to spoil your grandkids and have a happy content retirements. While these feminist women try to fill the empty void with bottles of wine a day and yoga classes. 

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  • What a heavy price they paid for their liberation.
    THIS ^.
    Another poster mentioned the bitterness/shock feminists suffer when they realize, too late, what they have missed in the way of genuine happiness, which is built on our personal relationships, and especially the "permanence" of that, meaning, of course, family.  Marriage and motherhood fulfill in the way nothing else can -- no job, no profession, no pets.
    Marriage and motherhood also sanctify the way nothing else can.
    What I have seen in my own life, among female friends (including many non-practicing Catholics), is a preference for long-term fornication/co-habitation over marriage and motherhood.  Initially, these women justified and rationalized their state as being "just as good" or "very much like" marriage.  But what has happened is that they have neither emotional security nor financial security.  While living with their lovers, they have had to struggle financially, as the men naturally felt no particular legal or moral obligation to support them. (I wonder why.)      
    ::)
    They have pursued jobs, professions, areas of accomplishment, but essentially have nothing lasting.  There's a bereft quality to these friends of mine, who have only the euphemistic "long-term companion" description to their reality.  

     

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