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Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2018, 03:59:47 AM »
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  • Samuel,
    I did try to warn you!


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    « Reply #46 on: January 19, 2018, 12:41:39 PM »
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  • Share this with SSPX members in Ireland
    They are familiar with this case but some are intimidated into silence amidst a cover up.
    I want everyone to know I resent what they done.

    The following should be sent to those involved.
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    I'm totally lost as to what you and the influential chapel parishioners want me to say in order to be treated as if I have a right to go to Mass and Sacraments.
    I already explained numerous times that your peers are trying to illegally get me banned even if I do nothing wrong, and they do this by lobbying priests.
    But you don't care.
    None of you do.

    So what exactly am I supposed to do or say in order to get treated like I have a right to be there? Can you answer that question??
    All you people do is call me "Nutjob" and then give me the silent boycott treatment.

    Question 1:
    So what exactly do you expect me to conclude or say or do?

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    Am I right that you heap contempt upon vulnerable disabled people for the reasons I have outlined in my various allegations which contain many obvious facts which are also stated by others?
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    Was I right all along?

    It looks as if I was right, and by calling me "Nutjob" names and then boycotting me after you make it impossible for me to practice my religion now that is the only impression you people give me.

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    How can you call yourself a follower of Jesus if you wont give people the dignity of a response?
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    If I was wrong about your society, which I doubt,  then why cant you enlighten me as to why my allegations are incorrect?
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    Is it because I am not worth saving because I am disabled? Was I in fact right all along?
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    And why should people submit to parishioners who treat their souls with contempt?
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    And if you are all the pinnacle of sanctity and can do no wrong, then why do you have no concern for my soul? And why actively try to expel me from the church?
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    And why polarize me against it?
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    Does Jesus want to save my soul or not?
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    And why were many of you bullying a person who had a history of self harm in a cruel manner?
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    And why did you not stop once he started to show suicidal tendencies?
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    And why did you not think he should have contact with the church during that time in order to prevent his death?
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    And why did you ridicule him with names like "nutjob" when he returned?
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    And why did you try to get him expelled when he went back through complaints to Menzigen and the District superior?
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    And what exactly could you complain about other than the situation that you think mentally ill people have no right to be in the church and should be banned for that sole reason?
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    And how are you people so successful in manipulating Fr Griego to act on behalf of your bigotry against disabled people?
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    And how were you able to coax Fr Griego into covering up the ordeals of bullying and emotional abuse that a vulnerable person suffered while attending Corpus Christi?
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    And why does none of these legitimate complaints register on your conscience?
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    Is it because I have no value and my soul is worthless?
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    Do you refuse to care because as a disabled person No one should care about me and I don't even have a right to be in a Catholic church?
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    And what exactly am I supposed to apologized for which initiated my ban in the first place?
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    And what exactly is the words of this apology supposed to refer to and state?
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    And what was i banned for?
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    And why do I have no right to access the church for Mass and Sacraments?
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    And if some infraction of church law took place why is it not forgiven?
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    And is it for sending an angry text message?
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    And if that is the reason then why are the many incidents of people being angry towards me not also ban worthy?
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    And do you know what she done which provoked that text message ( overt threatening to get me locked up and belittling me and bullying on the phone)
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    And do you know Agnes ridiculed me regularly and bullied me when I attended church ( "youre making too much noise walking into church and disturbing me, can you not walk on your tippey toes or something? Then others walk in making much louder noise and she says nothing to them) ( I have many examples)
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    How does she get awa with leaving threatening notes in the bookshelf in the parish hall which contained words like (Injection, hospital, mediation, torn from a page and placed in the books which I read often)
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    And if you believe in Patriarchy then why does a female have permission to heap contempt on a male?
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    And why does Agnes have the authority to slam the door of the chapel in the face of someone fresh from the confession box who spoke to the priest inside who granted him permission to be there?
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    And why if I apologize for whatever it is I am supposed to have done, is it not accepted?
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    And why does the sacrament of penance not work on me if it works on you?
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    And why do none of you feel the need to confess what you done?
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    And is it because as you have demonstrated with repeated lobbying efforts, you want to do it again?
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    And why are there no open lines of communication between me and whoever it is I have supposedly wronged in order for me to make such an apology?
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    And why do others not need to apologize to me?
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    And why is my suffering irrelevant but your displeasure at my presence more relevant than my salvation?
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    And why do you think it is acceptable in Jesus opinion for individuals to be thrown out of the church and boycotted by all?
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    And why do my spiritual needs not matter to any of you?
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    And why is the best you can do is jeer me behind my back and lobby priests behind my back and then collectively give me the silent treatment?
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    And do you claim I am inferior because of a disability?
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    And do people diagnosed deserve contempt?
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    And do you believe I am possessed by the devil because of a diagnosis?
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    And have any of you voiced your unconventional beliefs and behavior to a psychiatrist to see if you yourselves are perfectly sane?
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    And why can't someone with a diagnosis go to church?
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    And do you feel the same about the 390 million other people who also have a diagnosis?
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    And would you likewise encourage them to die or bully them if you knew for a fact that they were suicidal at the time?
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    And would you likewise slam the door in their faces?
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    And would you also call them "nutjobs" even if you have never met them before? ( That american couple referred to me as "That guys a total nutjob" even though they never met me before because it is fashionable amongst Corpus Christi parishioners to persecute me)
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    And am I a "Bad Potato"? ( Pat rock explained to the priest through metaphors that I was a bad potato who would corrupt the good potatoes who should be put into a field and covered in shite)
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    And what did I do against him personally to merit such contempt?
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    And if I done nothing to provoke it then will you admit that I am persecuted because of my perceived vulnerability due to a diagnosis?
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    And if your peers encouraged you to refer to someone as a nutjob and bully them then would you?
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    And would you feel the need to go to confession for insulting someone who was a "Nutjob"?
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    And if not is it because you think such people give the church a bad image and you want to make them unwelcome, regardless of the needs of their soul?
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    And if your church excludes people with disabilities then why do you claim you are religious and not a social club?
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    And where in the bible does it say to call people nutjobs and lobby to get them banned from churches and slam doors in their faces and boycott them? Can you give me an exact scripture refernece for that?
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    And why was there absolutely no investigation into my side of the story?
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    And why was I condemned by Fr Griego before I ever met him?
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    And why with physical injuries was I forced to travel to the other side of the country for Mass and sacraments needing to stay in a hostel to go there?
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    And why are others forgiven ( former resistance people) but I am not?
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    Is it because you see them as useful but me a burden?
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    Are their souls worth more than mine?
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    Is my soul worth anything?
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    Do you care if I doubt that the Catholic church is interested in souls?
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    And why do my opinions not count?
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    And why do influential chapel regulars have a say in whether or not I can go to church?
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    And why do they collectively condemn me behind my back and conspire to remove me from the church?
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    And why do you get indignant if i repay your contempt with my own contempt?
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    And why are people forbidden to question your treatment towards vulnerable people?
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    And why are the parishioners of the SSPX the only ones who think my opinions are irrelevant?
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    And is it because of a diagnosis that I am not permitted to attend a church?
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    And what qualifications do you have in psychology?
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    And what qualifications do you have in psychiatry?
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    And given these qualifications what is your thesis diagnose routine for the label of "nutjob" and why does a diagnosis even matter so much to you?
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    And why do you not like disabled people?
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    And why do you heap contempt upon them?
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    And why is a disability worthy of de facto excommunication?
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    And where in Canon Law does it say that the punishment for mental illness is excommunication and that the faithful must heap contempt upon such an individual until they die in despair?
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    And if a soul is in despair why are you satisfied with that result?
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    And if you polarize a soul against the Catholic church why do you think that situation should be allowed to continue?
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    And why do you have nothing to apologize for?
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    And why are disabled people not worthy of dignity?
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    And why are disabled people not worthy of apologies?
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    And why are disabled people not allowed attend church for Mass and Sacraments?
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    And why are disabled people worthy of contempt on account of disability?
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    And why are disabled people not entitled to have their side of the story heard?
    Why is there no Due process in my case?
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    And if a parishioner imitates practices of certain saints why do you call it "Imprudent"?
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    Is it because he is exposing your superficiality by his example?
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    And should a nun have a massage business?
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    And should a nun disobey bishops and join schismatic sects and still be regarded as a member of the church?
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    And if someone is a sinner should you not do penance for them? And should said penance not be equal to the gravity of the sin?
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    And what kind of professed religious shouts "How did he get back in here" when I go to church to save my soul?
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    And do you know that she has her own psychiatric illness and is not on medication, and do you lobby to get her banned as you did to me?
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    And do you know she is guilty of fraud and was exposed on national radio for procuring funds from a village in co Mayo under false reasons?
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    And do you think that in justice she ought to reimburse the money belonging to people she lied to and manipulated?
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    And do you think you are morally superior?
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    And if the holy spirit dwells in unity, then do you think your society which experienced a cινιℓ ωαr possesses the holy spirit?
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    And do any of you actually care about souls? Or is it just those who you think are useful to the reputation and image of your society?
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    And do you think that by showing preference in who you permit to attend your chapel that you will not incur the perception from mainstream society that your group is an elite club and not a religious group?
    No one dares answer my questions. They are exposed.

    Ouuuuuu I m being "Monitored"
    Well wasent that the whole reason I posted on this forum... to be "Monitored".
    Laughed at. EXPOSED.


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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #47 on: January 19, 2018, 02:25:28 PM »
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  • Look how they see me as a threat. Therefore if I expose them, I must be on to something otherwise why would they send me messages saying "You are being monitored".

    Ouuu Im being "Monitored" LOLoLololl

    I said this to someone in the pub and they thought I was talking to the cult of scientology or something.
    Yeah. Maybe I shouldnt react with anger and incur a ban, but why would I want to be on a forum if I am not catholic anymore, that makes no sense. I have a life. The church is not part of it.
    Im tired of etiquette and civility and manners and this endless contest to show you are more pious and virtuous than those you dispute with. Lets cut to the chase. There would be no dispute in the first place if you really were virtuous. Therefore dont think that by covering it in etiquette and polished language that you hide it. All you do is sweep it under the rug and let it fester.

    The bigots will be exposed.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #48 on: January 19, 2018, 02:26:46 PM »
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    Mr Heapes,
    You are being monitored.

    And whats your real name sunshine?
    HA HA HA EXPOSED
    Your name is not john, you are under a fake name.
    You are a BIGOT who threw a catholic out of their own religion.
    You are responsible.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #49 on: January 19, 2018, 02:38:17 PM »
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    Mr Heapes,
    You are being monitored.


    I have to admit that that message of "You are being monitored" is a bit disturbing. I can understand them not liking at all what you post here, but I don't get why they'd write that. Maybe he (the one who sent it) can explain it.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #50 on: January 19, 2018, 05:12:58 PM »
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  • Ok, this has gone on too long and has crossed the line from ugly to creepy. Just sayin...

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    « Reply #51 on: January 19, 2018, 05:57:13 PM »
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  • Ladies and Gentlemen,
    Don't feed the beast!
    I know this individual and he thrives of the attention that people, out of their charity, give him. The best thing for him is not to give him this attention, because he will only abuse it. Almost everyone in Irish tradition has long hard experience on this.
    Ignore this advice at your peril!
    "Don't feed the beast!"
    My response is that I am no "beast" and if you dehumanize me I can dehumanize you.
    I have feelings and needs and a right to practice my religion. You bigots can't get in my way and remain catholic.
    How dare you lobby priests with blackmail to get them to do your dirty work while you hide in the shadows.

    "I know this individual"
    No you don't. None of you at that chapel know me. None of you bothered to get to know me.
    You know nothing about me other than what I said whenever I went there.
    None of you know me in real life.

    "...and he thrives of the attention that people, out of their charity, give him."
    I don't thrive on attention because you people never dignified me with any attention.
    Since no one gave me attention and I was boycotted by all and given the silent treatment,
    seems you people don't have charity. In fact you proved you have not charity, but malice,
    with your bigoted lobbying to get me thrown out of the sspx.
    "The best thing for him is not to give him this attention, because he will only abuse it."
    How dare you claim to know what is best for me. Shut up. Bigot.
    I have a right to go to whatever chapel I want to, and if you get in my way you are a bigot.
    I know you are a bigot because you pressurize Fr griego to do your dirty work.
    You whisper rumors of a rebellion in the chapel in his ear, and suggest that if Im banned he can fix it all.
    You convince him to please his customers by telling them what they want to hear and do,
    and not please Christ by acting with justice and truth. You are demonic.
    And I admit I sent hate mail, but in fairness you people deserve it, and shouldnt expect anything less.

    "Almost everyone in Irish tradition has long hard experience on this."
    Bull. Are you claiming there was celebrations nationwide when I was thrown out and left alone with suicidal thoughts after the priests joined in the persecution of me. Why werent they there. Do you want me to upload some of the photos of the ѕυιcιdє notes I wrote in my own blood to prove what you people put me through. You really are sleaze and slimeballs.
    How dare you practice bigotry and do that to a person. You are bigots. Full bigots. Nothing but bigots.
    False christians. Pharisees who hijacked the chapel and denied the religoin to genuine christians.

    "Ignore this advice at your peril!"
    Oh REALLY you are afraid of an angry rebuke after what you done to me.
    You know full well how cruel you sleaze were towards me. You tried to kill me.
    I doubt you are such pious sensitive souls that you cant stomach an angry response to your arrogant supremacist bigotry.
    You are bullies who cry out in agony as you plunge the knife into your victim and you cant stand being exposed.
    What happened to me should be worldwide knowledge in all of the sspx
    It is not because of your culture of silence and cover up.
    But at least the victim is alive to curse you. I am thankful for that.
    And I am glad I hate you people. So are my family and friends.
    I hope you get a taste of your own venom in due course.

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    « Reply #52 on: January 19, 2018, 06:22:33 PM »
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  • Disgusting monsters. Who wants to be in the same religion as you except other monsters.
    I get criticised for not being catholic, but it is your fault im not catholic, and your criticism means nothing to me.
    Who wants to be in fellowship with you monsters.

    As for the one person who tried to talk me into going back once i was banned.
    Yeah I sent hate mail, but thats what you get for siding with murderers and not with the victim.
    Empty platitudes the lot of it. She betrayed me to fit in with her peers and I see why.
    The approval of peers was all that ever mattered in that cult called the sspx.
    There was never any religion in that place except from the priests.
    The enironment was overtly acid against religion. It was an irreligious environment hiding behind a false front of piety portrayed to the world. But if your society has not grown in numbers Its clear that others know the truth about your false church.
    People stay away from you because you are dangerous freaks who have twisted psychologies who would wreak invective harm on fragile people if you got a chance. You thrive on chapel politics and manipulation. If any person walked in from the street you would play games with them the same way and guilt trip them into exalting your politics.
    My mistake was to let you people into the door of my emotions, because once inside, you cut and slashed and defecated all over my heart, corrupting me and breaking me down. People in the general public have warning sensors in their minds about people like you, but I dont, because I was fragile and vulnerable when I went there first.
    But they amplifed that vulnerability because it served them. They enjoyed breaking me in to pieces.
    They enjoyed bullying me and imposing themselves on me. They wouldnt dare do it to anyone else.

    So that is why I need my hate. That is why I say that person betrayed me.
    It was blatently obvious what the nature of the chapel is, and anyone in denial about it is willfully covering it up,
    and laying the grounds for it to happen all over again. Deaf to me, so therefore expect hate in return.
    I have a right to be heard and your treatment of me was disgusting.


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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #53 on: January 19, 2018, 11:09:50 PM »
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  • Hey the catholics on this forum are reasonable and making me think 2wice about being an athiest.
    All that religious thinking is coming back to me quickly. But I am not catholic at present, but have an open mind.
    What did it was the fact people reached out to me, and disagreed with the treatment i got.
    I feel vindicated by the proof that others dont consider me worthless.
    Yesterday I spoke to some stunning blonde girl who was very enthusiastic more than i was, and when i went home i doubted whether i was worth it because i had internalized the bullying and believed i was worthless.
    But such belittlement was cancelled out with defensive rage where i confront those responsible.
    Yet there is no one to confront in real life so i thrive, and what is to stop me from being a strong christian.
    These narks dont own the religion. I know they were bigots against me. But if i avoid religion because of them it is a sign of trauma associated with it, and that must be overcome. I should not internalize negative beliefs about worthlessness.
    I have something to contribute to society. I am not an outcast in society and if the church outcasts me it is their loss.
    But i can start christianity in society from the seed that is carried in my soul planted in the wilderness if i choose.
    The chapel was overgrown with weeds.

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    « Reply #54 on: January 20, 2018, 10:46:05 AM »
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  • Hey the catholics on this forum are reasonable and making me think 2wice about being an athiest.
    All that religious thinking is coming back to me quickly. But I am not catholic at present, but have an open mind.
    What did it was the fact people reached out to me, and disagreed with the treatment i got.
    I feel vindicated by the proof that others dont consider me worthless.
    Yesterday I spoke to some stunning blonde girl who was very enthusiastic more than i was, and when i went home i doubted whether i was worth it because i had internalized the bullying and believed i was worthless.
    But such belittlement was cancelled out with defensive rage where i confront those responsible.
    Yet there is no one to confront in real life so i thrive, and what is to stop me from being a strong christian.
    These narks dont own the religion. I know they were bigots against me. But if i avoid religion because of them it is a sign of trauma associated with it, and that must be overcome. I should not internalize negative beliefs about worthlessness.
    I have something to contribute to society. I am not an outcast in society and if the church outcasts me it is their loss.
    But i can start christianity in society from the seed that is carried in my soul planted in the wilderness if i choose.
    The chapel was overgrown with weeds.

    I'm so glad to see that you have some hope. God bless you. 

    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29