Author Topic: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi (Read 5158 times)

Carissima · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2018, 02:09:55 PM »

Quote from: victim of the sspx on January 16, 2018, 11:11:28 PM

Nobody dares to answer my questions.

Go on.
More ad hominem attacks.
More empty platitudes.
More empty promises.
More empty virtue signals.
More evasiveness.
More obfuscation.
More blaming the victim.

I know you can do it... just remind yourself of all the times you people bullied this vulnerable person and he did not defend himself and convince yourself that he is the same way he used to be, and will take it all over again.
I know you can do it! Tap into that anti social narcissism from your empty unfulfilled lives and unleash it on your convenient victim at the moment.
Never mind the consequences.
There are no nutjobs in heaven, you know that for a fact.
Besides bullying him is fashionable and cool. Scapegoats exist for only one thing. Amirite lads?

Catholics are not exempt from pride and therefore can be just as despicable as any other human being. We all come from the same parents of Original Sin.
This situation has obviously spiraled out of hand because everyone involved feels justified by their own responses to it, including you. Maybe you made a mistake somewhere along the way too. Not saying you did, but prayerful self reflection will help.

Thinking back on the first time you attended the chapel, did you chat and visit with folks after Mass, or did you keep to yourself?
Were friendships built for any amount of time while you were attending there? If the answer is no, and you were only chosen at random to be the ‘Chapel Pincushion’ then consider yourself blessed. Christ Himself was falsely accused of the most wicked of offenses, and His true followers embraced being persecuted as well. ‘The servant is no greater than the Master’.

And if the answer is yes you did have friends, or even aquatintences, then maybe it would be best at this time to go to Mass (another chapel) and the Sacraments for Christ and your Salvation, and not for friendship. People of fallen human nature will fail you every time.
If the Saints had left the Church and abandoned Christ when people were mean to them, we wouldn’t have any Saints. You should read some of their autobiography’s. ALL of them suffered persecution (many at the hands of their authorities) and they offered it for HIM because they knew He suffered much worse and on their behalf.

Jesus suffered for you too. Don’t abandon Him because of others wicked fallen human nature. It’s not HIS fault.

Fanny · « **Reply #16 on:** January 17, 2018, 09:34:37 PM »

The way you speak about sspx chapels is not uncommon, unfortunately.

The people who take care of them seem to begin to think it is their chapel. They own it.
It is unfortunate, but sadly true.

I have had similar experiences. Did it stop me? No. I just learned to attend mass and leave. You don't really need to talk to anyone except, maybe, the priest, if you need a special blessing or sacrament.

And it is not a solely sspx problem, either. I have seen it at independent chapels run by a "board", too. They get big heads.

Just remember why you go to mass and go for that purpose only. Doesn't matter who else is there. Ignore them.

God bless you and help you find peace.
Don't let Satan win.

victim of the sspx · « **Reply #17 on:** January 17, 2018, 10:24:39 PM »

Quote from: Fanny on January 17, 2018, 09:34:37 PM

The way you speak about sspx chapels is not uncommon, unfortunately.

The people who take care of them seem to begin to think it is their chapel. They own it.
It is unfortunate, but sadly true.

I have had similar experiences. Did it stop me? No. I just learned to attend mass and leave. You don't really need to talk to anyone except, maybe, the priest, if you need a special blessing or sacrament.

And it is not a solely sspx problem, either. I have seen it at independent chapels run by a "board", too. They get big heads.

Just remember why you go to mass and go for that purpose only. Doesn't matter who else is there. Ignore them.

God bless you and help you find peace.
Don't let Satan win.

I agree and obviously SSPX chapels are known worldwide to be attended by people who can be cruel, uncharitable, think theyre superior, eccentric, narcissistic, gossipy, manipulative political etc Everyone knows this is what SSPX are like and they only succeed in destroying their own reputation amongst the general public. On the one hand they feign devout piety, 5 mins later and they are bickering and trying to hurt each other with toxic razor sharp comments and gossip and trying to get authority figures to impose their own personal will on their enemies.
But the thing is that even though I dont have to talk to people at the chapel, as you suggest.
In fact I actually do, because they forced themselves into relevance in my life through lobbying the priests.
They have a weak crowd pleasing priest as the superior who they have thoroughly persuaded and to prevent people leaving griego marked me as to blame for everything even things that didnt happen, while giving them a free pass to do what they want to anybody. He did this because it was politically expedient even though it was unjust.
The whole situation forces me to try to amateurishly play politics with the pharisees in the chapel and persuade them that i will be malliable to their preferences and will even though i am disgusted with the lot of them.
I bought them all presents for easter and last xmas and they were like, o thanks very kind of you,
then next time they see me they are saying "that guys a total nutjob" and making calls to the superior and to menzigen to get them to ban me on grounds of being "unstable imbalanced etc"
To such people I have nothing but disgust and fear. Not only did they force themselves to be relevant, but they are intrinsically biased against me for reasons of a diagnosis which i can do nothing to nullify the stigma of.
Maybe they could have said i was imbalanced (love how they use psychiatric terminology of chemical pathology btw)
As if they were experts... back when i was obsessed with doing penance to try to convert a renegade religious with a massage business who i was convinced was going to hell and it was my duty to save because I knew.
I had my reasons for doing what i did and going to church every day and praying all the time.
I got nothing but contempt for it and i made a big effort and was despised for it.
I think they wanted me out of the chapel from day one and only looking for an excuse.
I think they done strategy and waited for their moment and picked it when fr walliez was about to leave the country.
Give the chapel a bad image to new comers with some weirdo there every day doing penance all the time and his stupid all night vigils and penance rosaries and office and things. Weirdo he was. He was not imitating saints he read about he was doing it because of a psychiatric illness. It was not to win grace to save souls it was because he was obsessed for immoral reasons.
He had to be a wolf in sheeps clothing just like the rest of us. being totally spiritual and abstaining from chapel politics and gossiup was too virtuous and we had to find some way to cut him down to size because he was not a political fanatic of our own particular slant on things and we need the attention not god not spiritual lifestyle not prayers not morality not nothing the attention has to be on us and we have to be the centre of attention because power over the chapel belongs to us because we know how to save souls and not this weirdo sick person tormenting himself with penances for something we deny is happening in the first place.

victim of the sspx · « **Reply #18 on:** January 17, 2018, 10:37:46 PM »

Quote from: Carissima on January 17, 2018, 02:09:55 PM

Catholics are not exempt from pride and therefore can be just as despicable as any other human being. We all come from the same parents of Original Sin.
This situation has obviously spiraled out of hand because everyone involved feels justified by their own responses to it, including you. Maybe you made a mistake somewhere along the way too. Not saying you did, but prayerful self reflection will help.

Thinking back on the first time you attended the chapel, did you chat and visit with folks after Mass, or did you keep to yourself?
Were friendships built for any amount of time while you were attending there? If the answer is no, and you were only chosen at random to be the ‘Chapel Pincushion’ then consider yourself blessed. Christ Himself was falsely accused of the most wicked of offenses, and His true followers embraced being persecuted as well. ‘The servant is no greater than the Master’.

And if the answer is yes you did have friends, or even aquatintences, then maybe it would be best at this time to go to Mass (another chapel) and the Sacraments for Christ and your Salvation, and not for friendship. People of fallen human nature will fail you every time.
If the Saints had left the Church and abandoned Christ when people were mean to them, we wouldn’t have any Saints. You should read some of their autobiography’s. ALL of them suffered persecution (many at the hands of their authorities) and they offered it for HIM because they knew He suffered much worse and on their behalf.

Jesus suffered for you too. Don’t abandon Him because of others wicked fallen human nature. It’s not HIS fault.

Yes I did talk to everyone there and I did not know I was talking to wolves because I was fresh from the general public and nieve. I had too much empathy for people who were manipulative users and with some of the cruel contempt i got from certain people, not saying who but its obvious, i increased my efforts to win their approval and part of me believed it was my fault for their sins and i tried to get grace for people through ususual prayer routines etc. I could not understand the contempt i got and i dwelt in obsessive self criticism to discover an answer. But i should have seen these people for what they were and not believed the front they portray to the world. Not until i saw them destroy each other was it obvious. To this day i am still taken in by their false claims about themselves (parishioners only) and their front christian moral superiority, but i also have anger and resentment and rage which is how i defend myself from being used and taken in again.
But now i dont believe any of it and i think they are all imposters. If i did not have that and i submitted to their will and was charitable to everybody then i would immediately find that they destroy me all over again. I have righteous anger at them and i think they know it, or maybe theyre stupid about it and dont think i have any self interest, which is possible too.
Either way they made it impossibel for me to go to the only chapel in travel distance i can reach, and their lobbying made their opinion relevant, and they boycott me which means they are happy that they closed the door and condemned me to hell and made it impossible for me to go back even if the priest says i can, they go over his head.
The priests are getting attacked by these same parishioners and lobbiests and they are afraid of them, they are intimidated into silence. One priest who knows and witnessed the abuse i got told me "if i say anything itll make it 10 times worse".
I know that the new priests at the chapel are not cult like in their thinking and they are more in it for spiritual reasons and i think they are decent priests who want to save souls. I know they are disgusted by the bigots (their words not mine) and they know full well what these people are like. I have sympathy for the priests but not the obstructionist parishioners who hijacked the chapel

victim of the sspx · « **Reply #19 on:** January 17, 2018, 10:46:37 PM »

but im probably going to be banned from sspx for posting on cathinfo anyway once griego sees that i did.
Which just proves the lobbying going on. If he wants to get letigous about it there are always recourse to groups that protect rights of people from discrimination such as the equality tribunal, there is also the option that i can share my story with victims advocacy groups and the media, or start my own youtube channel where i say what happened and use a proxy so i get 1st amendment protection for my speech. there are many ways i can play them at their own game. if i had money they would have got sued a long time ago but free legal aid wont cover cases as this. the legal system is somewhat rigged to preserve the interests of the status quo and wealthy, but that is changing and i wont shut up about it because i know public opinion would be on my side and any judge will destroy himself if he becomes a pawn of the catholic church which is hated.
so that closes this chapter of my life. another satistifed customer of the sspx.
ill recommend them to everyone... everyone who wants a life of misery that is.

johnmethal · « **Reply #20 on:** January 18, 2018, 05:45:14 AM »

Ladies and Gentlemen,
Don't feed the beast!
I know this individual and he thrives of the attention that people, out of their charity, give him. The best thing for him is not to give him this attention, because he will only abuse it. Almost everyone in Irish tradition has long hard experience on this.
Ignore this advice at your peril!

victim of the sspx · « **Reply #21 on:** January 18, 2018, 01:01:36 PM »

Quote from: johnmethal on January 18, 2018, 05:45:14 AM

Ladies and Gentlemen,
Don't feed the beast!
I know this individual and he thrives of the attention that people, out of their charity, give him. The best thing for him is not to give him this attention, because he will only abuse it. Almost everyone in Irish tradition has long hard experience on this.
Ignore this advice at your peril!

O really. Because I never met anyone called John at the SSPX.
"Out of their charity" Don't make me laugh. SSPX have no charity.
"Long hard experience on this" This what? Someone getting persecuted by narcissistic lying bigots who lobby priests to do their dirty work for them?
So hard to say sorry you have to abuse the victim all over again.
Who might you be, faceless coward liar.
You've no leg to stand on and you see me as a threat because Im exposing what went on.
That's why you post. Trying to cover it all up.
Your'e under a fake name. I never met any john. Feel big do ya now that your'e on the internet?
I knew this would happen. I knew the bullies would see my post and attack from the safety of their computer.
Everyone knows who I am, but you will remain in the shadows like the devil, putting lies in people with impunity.
You and your gang of peers are cancer and everyone knows that. You hijacked the chapel and run it for the select few.
You've no right to tell people who should and shouldn't have access to the church.
And if this is who I think it is, Im not nearly finished with you. You hear me?
I will sort you out at my own convenience and I have big plans for you. Understand?
This is not over. Yeah I might be banned but so what. You cannot redeem your reputation because I will blacken it everywhere and amongst everyone I speak to, not just this forum. And from all the people I told, no one has sympathy for what you did.
All you complain of is hate mail, but you deserve hate mail for the ordeal you put someone through.
But I will not stop at hate mail, I will make you suffer in real life, just you watch.
Congratulate yourself on making a mortal enemy. Ill get you.

victim of the sspx · « **Reply #22 on:** January 18, 2018, 01:13:56 PM »

I bet none of my former life destroyers can answer my list of questions at the start of this thread.
They will pretend these questions dont exist. Nevertheless the questions they cant answer are proof of their hypocrisy and conspiracy.
A few pharisees hijacked the chapel. No one can deny it. The same pharisees intimidate the priests in to silence with threats of invoking the district superior. That is why they get away with it. The district superior is a coward and corrupt Fr Griego, he lets them do what they want because he knows their loyalty to the sspx is fickle and they will leave, and because they are over a million in debt, he wont risk it.
I was only condemned because it was expedient. Sacrifice one sheep for many wolves. But the facts are on my side and my side alone.

Im not finished with those who inflicted this ordeal on me.
Yeah you read this. Wait and see what happens to you.
You will forget about it and then suddenly one day will be reminded.
And I will enjoy that day. I will treasure that retribution for the rest of my life.
You dont throw someone out of their own religion and get away with it. Not gonna happen.

victim of the sspx · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2018, 01:19:28 PM »

And yeah you get narky when you accuse me on the internet.
Say it in real life and youll see what happens to you.
Meet me in person. You all know where I live.
Your words will make your suffering worse when I repay what you done.
Make me angry and more determined. You always were possessed by your own arrogance and convinced no harm would befall you because you were well in with authority figures. But that can change. And their authority does not extend to the street.
If law wont convict you, street law will.
I never forgot about you and this isint over.
Go on laugh at this. You will pay in the end.
I will enjoy what I get done to you.

Samuel · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2018, 01:20:46 PM »

Quote from: victim of the sspx on January 18, 2018, 01:13:56 PM

I bet none of my former life destroyers can answer my list of questions at the start of this thread.
They will pretend these questions dont exist. Nevertheless the questions they cant answer are proof of their hypocrisy and conspiracy.
A few pharisees hijacked the chapel. No one can deny it. The same pharisees intimidate the priests in to silence with threats of invoking the district superior. That is why they get away with it. The district superior is a coward and corrupt Fr Griego, he lets them do what they want because he knows their loyalty to the sspx is fickle and they will leave, and because they are over a million in debt, he wont risk it.
I was only condemned because it was expedient. Sacrifice one sheep for many wolves. But the facts are on my side and my side alone.

Im not finished with those who inflicted this ordeal on me.
Yeah you read this. Wait and see what happens to you.
You will forget about it and then suddenly one day will be reminded.
And I will enjoy that day. I will treasure that retribution for the rest of my life.
You dont throw someone out of their own religion and get away with it. Not gonna happen.

You don't sound like someone who would pray and do sacrifices for others out of charity.

I wouldn't know you from a bar of soap, but seeing the hatred you came to spew here it is obvious you are only serving self.

Get over yourself, go to confession and save your soul.

victim of the sspx · « **Reply #25 on:** January 18, 2018, 01:38:22 PM »

Quote from: Samuel on January 18, 2018, 01:20:46 PM

You don't sound like someone who would pray and do sacrifices for others out of charity.

I wouldn't know you from a bar of soap, but seeing the hatred you came to spew here it is obvious you are only serving self.

Get over yourself, go to confession and save your soul.

Youre wrong. I have turned to the dark side.
Im denied sacraments anyway. So that is what happens, people hate the church for denying them and change.
Their only hope was to stop obstructing my belief in catholicism and denying me the right to go to church.
Then I grew to have contempt for those who put me through and ordeal and lost my faith.
I dont even want the faith anymore. I dont follow moral restrictions anymore.
I will do anything to be able to live with myself and I cant stand the fact that these pigs did that to me.
Pigs is all they are and all they ever were. PIGS.
I am pissed off now. I want justice. Natural law justice.
I am turning into a differnt person now that I detoxified myself from religion.
They wont like justice when what goes around comes around.
They think theyre IT because they got the priest wrapped around their little finger with all the manipulation and seduction.
But the church is not reality. The time for words is over.
Its long past time they paid for their crimes and were exposed as the hypocrit cult they are.

Samuel · « **Reply #26 on:** January 18, 2018, 01:46:52 PM »

Quote from: victim of the sspx on January 18, 2018, 01:38:22 PM

Youre wrong. I have turned to the dark side.
Im denied sacraments anyway. So that is what happens, people hate the church for denying them and change.
Their only hope was to stop obstructing my belief in catholicism and denying me the right to go to church.
Then I grew to have contempt for those who put me through and ordeal and lost my faith.
I dont even want the faith anymore. I dont follow moral restrictions anymore.
I will do anything to be able to live with myself and I cant stand the fact that these pigs did that to me.
Pigs is all they are and all they ever were. PIGS.
I am pissed off now. I want justice. Natural law justice.
I am turning into a differnt person now that I detoxified myself from religion.
They wont like justice when what goes around comes around.
They think theyre IT because they got the priest wrapped around their little finger with all the manipulation and seduction.
But the church is not reality. The time for words is over.
Its long past time they paid for their crimes and were exposed as the hypocrit cult they are.

No you are wrong.

If ever you had the faith, you would not have lost it unless through your own fault.

God will never abandon us unless we abandon him first.

It's as simple as that. The best place for you to start is by looking in the mirror.

victim of the sspx · « **Reply #27 on:** January 18, 2018, 02:06:25 PM »

Quote from: Samuel on January 18, 2018, 01:46:52 PM

No you are wrong.

If ever you had the faith, you would not have lost it unless through your own fault.

God will never abandon us unless we abandon him first.

It's as simple as that. The best place for you to start is by looking in the mirror.

No YOU are wrong.
Your religion is nothing but DELUSION from a warped Jєωιѕн cult.
Apply your argument to the hundreds of millions of people who dont practice their religion.
Maybe the acts of your priests and parishioners (Cough Child rape) (Cough workhouses) (Cough corruption) (Cough hypocrisy coverups) had something to do with it.
You damn catholics with your own actions.
By obstructing my ability to go to church they bring retribution on themselves.
You do not wound someone that deeply and rob them of religion and then expect them to do nothing.
I am done being humble and penitent. I only got abused for being humility.
I got bigots running the chapel who shut the door to God in my face.
Guess who that leaves as the alternative according to you.
I dont believe in your stupid God vs Devil mantra delusions anymore.
I believe in natural law.
Even if I post like this, my questions still are proof of hypocrisy and cover up.
No one can answer my questions. They resort to smearing the victim.
Well I dont care about your smearing.
I knew I had no chance of getting back in. Thats why I posted on this forum. To expose them.
I will be banned from this forum and the sspx. They will laugh and say it is well.
But what they did was monstrous injustice and I will repay it.

Samuel · « **Reply #28 on:** January 18, 2018, 02:42:22 PM »

Quote from: victim of the sspx on January 18, 2018, 02:06:25 PM

No YOU are wrong.
Your religion is nothing but DELUSION from a warped Jєωιѕн cult.
Apply your argument to the hundreds of millions of people who dont practice their religion.
Maybe the acts of your priests and parishioners (Cough Child rape) (Cough workhouses) (Cough corruption) (Cough hypocrisy coverups) had something to do with it.
You damn catholics with your own actions.
By obstructing my ability to go to church they bring retribution on themselves.
You do not wound someone that deeply and rob them of religion and then expect them to do nothing.
I am done being humble and penitent. I only got abused for being humility.
I got bigots running the chapel who shut the door to God in my face.
Guess who that leaves as the alternative according to you.
I dont believe in your stupid God vs Devil mantra delusions anymore.
I believe in natural law.
Even if I post like this, my questions still are proof of hypocrisy and cover up.
No one can answer my questions. They resort to smearing the victim.
Well I dont care about your smearing.
I knew I had no chance of getting back in. Thats why I posted on this forum. To expose them.
I will be banned from this forum and the sspx. They will laugh and say it is well.
But what they did was monstrous injustice and I will repay it.

>> I got bigots running the chapel who shut the door to God in my face. Guess who that leaves as the alternative according to you.

Nobody can shut the door to God in your face, only you can do to yourself. I would rather say it was the devil who opened the exit door for you and you like a fool walked out.

>> But what they did was monstrous injustice and I will repay it.

You will repay nothing of the sort. All you will ever be allowed to repay is the punishment due to your own sins.

victim of the sspx · « **Reply #29 on:** January 18, 2018, 03:57:06 PM »

Quote from: Samuel on January 18, 2018, 02:42:22 PM

>> I got bigots running the chapel who shut the door to God in my face. Guess who that leaves as the alternative according to you.

Nobody can shut the door to God in your face, only you can do to yourself. I would rather say it was the devil who opened the exit door for you and you like a fool walked out.

>> But what they did was monstrous injustice and I will repay it.

You will repay nothing of the sort. All you will ever be allowed to repay is the punishment due to your own sins.

Yeah there you have it. The "devil" opened the exit door. He had help from his snakes in the chapel.
I changed completely after I lost my faith, and I see catholicism as a toxic delusion lifestyle of misery.
What are you going to do to save my soul, if I am worth saving that is.
Because the way I understand it, the parishioners think I am not worth saving, they dont give a damn.
Actually they do give a damn, to be precise that "Damn" is all they give.
I was very pious and spiritual at one time. But my crime in natural law which supercedes catholic law, my crime is that I was vulnerable, and vulnerability is ALWAYS attacked.
If you want to go to the sspx, you better be a wolf and not a sheep.
Some christians theyre supposed to be. Theyre the furthest thing from jesus. Pharisess.
These people live empty bitter lives of paranoia and conspiracy, and they feed on gossip and exalting their obscure political view and chapel manipulation and chapel politics. It is what they live for. They live for that adulation of their peers and the false front of piety when they are hypocrites, superficial, wolves in sheep clothing. I think my main enemies were frustrated because they were single into their 40s, and as for the married ones, Im sure some of that bitterness comes from the fact their wives never have an orgasm or are like a corpse in bed. Im sure that after they blackmail their spouse into the act that part of them wonders if she will report them for rape. Thats what I think of the catholic lifestyle. Misery. Unbridled Misery while they live in a straitjacket of polished manners and etiquette while on the inside they are bitter resentful hatefilled bigots who think theyre superior and heap contempt on everyone not of their own angle. Thats why theyre all single. No one would go near them with a ten foot pole. Twisted freaks absorbed in their own delusions. Society rejects them and their unjustified smug arrogance, and society rejects their church of atrocity, and no one dignifies their false claims with the time of day anymore.
They done that to themselves. They had absolute power and they screwed up their own monopoly.
The same kind of people had absolute power over me one time and look how I rightfully hate them now.

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