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Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2018, 04:04:28 PM »
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  • 3 year ban from the sspx so far. when i went back I got ridiculed out of it, and they lobbied the superior to ban me for no reason other than that i got a diagnosis. That was their sole reason. I caused nothing when i went back.
    I treated them well. They spit in my face for it.

    hence I contempt religion now. If I cant have it i will hate it for its hypocrisy.
    Worthless parasites living on the good will of vulnerable people.
    I went there nieve and tried my best, I tried 1000 times harder than all the slimey pharisees in there.
    Now I regret my former piety. I see it as the very thing you people used to abuse me with.
    I never defended myself before while going there. They made me hate myself with their abuse.
    I internalized their contempt of my life. Then I woke up and my hate keeps me alive and protects me from their destructive delusional beliefs. If I had no hate I would be dead, and you people wouldnt care. You would blame it on the devil, but YOU are the only devil here. Pharisees cold blooded with hearts of venom and stone. You are the only devils in the world, no matter what religion or group you hijack or infest. I know the truth.


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    « Reply #31 on: January 18, 2018, 04:27:27 PM »
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    What are you going to do to save my soul, if I am worth saving that is.
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    There is nothing anyone can do for you unless you yourself want to save your soul. So stop blaming others and make up your own mind.

    Do you want to save your soul ?

    If yes, pull up your socks and get on with it.

    I not, you'll be hating and frothing for the rest of eternity... in the company of all those who made the same choice as you.


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    « Reply #32 on: January 18, 2018, 04:35:23 PM »
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  • There is nothing anyone can do unless you yourself want to save your soul. So stop blaming others and make up your own mind.

    Do you want to save your soul ?

    If yes, pull up your socks and get on with it.

    I not, you'll be hating and frothing for the rest of eternity... in the company of all those who made the same choice as you.
    Did you actually read this thread, or the question list I posted?
    I cant go back because a gang of pharisees hijacked the chapel and prevent me from access to it.
    If none of them read cathinfo, they would remember me as the timid spiritual nice person eccentric who was obsessed with penance and solitude and vigils and rubbish like this.
    I went back and they lobbied the superior saying people with disabilities should not be allowed in the chapel.
    Before this they were saying lots of rubbish lying allegations to the superior.
    They have him wrapped around their baby finger. He is eating out of their hand. They control the purse.
    I will be banned for expediency.
    I never spoke like this until I was banned. Everyone knows that.
    I was full of charity, they spit on me for it. I was committed to prayer, they spit on me for it.
    I was full of empathy for people, they spit on me for it. I did all they asked, they spit on me for it.
    I done many pious things, I was spit on for them all.
    No one recognized my pain. They did not dignify me with the right to not suffer.
    They put unfair conditions on me and pushed me out on the quiet and covered it up because I was not a loyalist.
    All I was interested in was saying the maximum amount of prayers.
    I since turned to the dark side. For reasons that each time I reached out in friendship to them they spit on me.
    WELL now it is time for me to spit on your society, and on your whole vain religion.
    My experience of life has been poisoned enough with your contempt of my dignity

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #33 on: January 18, 2018, 04:40:47 PM »
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  • Did you actually read this thread, or the question list I posted?
    I cant go back because a gang of pharisees hijacked the chapel and prevent me from access to it.
    If none of them read cathinfo, they would remember me as the timid spiritual nice person eccentric who was obsessed with penance and solitude and vigils and rubbish like this.
    I went back and they lobbied the superior saying people with disabilities should not be allowed in the chapel.
    Before this they were saying lots of rubbish lying allegations to the superior.
    They have him wrapped around their baby finger. He is eating out of their hand. They control the purse.
    I will be banned for expediency.
    I never spoke like this until I was banned. Everyone knows that.
    I was full of charity, they spit on me for it. I was committed to prayer, they spit on me for it.
    I was full of empathy for people, they spit on me for it. I did all they asked, they spit on me for it.
    I done many pious things, I was spit on for them all.
    No one recognized my pain. They did not dignify me with the right to not suffer.
    They put unfair conditions on me and pushed me out on the quiet and covered it up because I was not a loyalist.
    All I was interested in was saying the maximum amount of prayers.
    I since turned to the dark side. For reasons that each time I reached out in friendship to them they spit on me.
    WELL now it is time for me to spit on your society, and on your whole vain religion.
    My experience of life has been poisoned enough with your contempt of my dignity

    Yes, I read your long list of accusations. But all I saw was accusations against other people. I did not see any accusation against yourself, or against God. So why are the two of you having a problem with each other?

    In fact, you are the fool for letting these "bigots" come between you and God. You took the bait and ran with it.

    If you really want to have your revenge on these "bigots", let them go to hell without you. Why are you so keen on joining them?

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    « Reply #34 on: January 18, 2018, 04:51:00 PM »
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  • Yes, I read your long list of accusations. But all I saw was accusations against other people. I did not see any accusation against yourself, or against God. So why are the two of you having a problem with each other?

    In fact, you are the fool for letting these "bigots" come between you and God. You took the bait and ran with it.

    If you really want to have your revenge on these "bigots", let them go to hell without you. Why are you so keen on joining them?
    It is the only chapel in travel distance, i cant go novus ordo, and the bible says eucharist and sacraments or else no heaven.
    Yet BIGOTS lobby the superior if i go to church. They deserve to be exposed. They are in denial and there is a cover up.
    Dont try shift the blame onto me. If I was left unmolested by these BIGOTS I would be going to church regular.
    But they get in my way so I entertain the dark side and the delusions of catholicism wore off.
    The blindfold of ideology has come off. I am free now.
    Everytime I reached out to them they spit on me. I will contempt their whole religion in return.

    I wont let myself be taken advantage of by these tyrants ever again. My faith was the door through which they did me harm.
    My hate is for self preservation. I also want justice. I wont live with myself until I get justice.


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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #35 on: January 18, 2018, 05:01:36 PM »
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  • It is the only chapel in travel distance, i cant go novus ordo, and the bible says eucharist and sacraments or else no heaven.
    Yet BIGOTS lobby the superior if i go to church. They deserve to be exposed. They are in denial and there is a cover up.
    Dont try shift the blame onto me. If I was left unmolested by these BIGOTS I would be going to church regular.
    But they get in my way so I entertain the dark side and the delusions of catholicism wore off.
    The blindfold of ideology has come off. I am free now.
    Everytime I reached out to them they spit on me. I will contempt their whole religion in return.

    No, the Church teaches all you need is sanctifying grace to get to heaven.

    You were baptized, so you received sanctifying grace back then. If you lost that sanctifying grace (and it looks like you have) then you can get it back by making a good confession.

    All you need for a good confession is true sorrow for your sins and a valid priest.

    True sorrow is something only you can supply, valid priests there are still many. If your local priest refuses to hear your confession (which I doubt), find another one. If you can't find one, I will find you one. But I can guarantee you that there are still valid priests who will travel to the other side of the world to hear your confession.

    You see, the ball is in your camp. You decide, and no one else.

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    « Reply #36 on: January 18, 2018, 05:22:47 PM »
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  • No, the Church teaches all you need is sanctifying grace to get to heaven.

    You were baptized, so you received sanctifying grace back then. If you lost that sanctifying grace (and it looks like you have) then you can get it back by making a good confession.

    All you need for a good confession is true sorrow for your sins and a valid priest.

    True sorrow is something only you can supply, valid priests there are still many. If your local priest refuses to hear your confession (which I doubt), find another one. If you can't find one, I will find you one. But I can guarantee you that there are still valid priests who will travel to the other side of the world to hear your confession.

    You see, the ball is in your camp. You decide, and no one else.
    You are denying the facts on the ground.
    If I go back they pressurize mr griego to ban me, and he will, if he hasent already.
    They have him seduced. There are too many liars and I am outnumbered by bigots.
    I will never be accepted there because they are advesarial by nature and they bite people as a hobby.
    They live for the conflict with other catholics. They know my diagnosis is stigma and it is dishonorable to them.
    They use it as a vulnerability. The way it is in that sspx is attack or be attacked.
    They are vipers. One does not survive in there unless they are likewise a viper.
    That is why they deserve contempt. In a way it helps me fit in.
    My excessive inferiority complex humility from my previous piety was the door they used to abuse me with impuntiy.
    I never defended myself before. That was my flaw. I should have been a wolf and manipulator and lobbiest and politician.
    I should have worked the crowd using psychological manipulation tactics to ensure the security of my place at the chapel.
    I didnt bother. I prayed and did penances. Look where it got me. Thrown out of my own religion permanently.
    Denied the right to go back to it. So dont tell me the ball is in my court. Dont tell me to pray or repent.
    It was those very things that got me expelled in the first place by people who did neither.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #37 on: January 18, 2018, 05:56:23 PM »
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  • You are denying the facts on the ground.
    If I go back they pressurize mr griego to ban me, and he will, if he hasent already.
    They have him seduced. There are too many liars and I am outnumbered by bigots.
    I will never be accepted there because they are advesarial by nature and they bite people as a hobby.
    They live for the conflict with other catholics. They know my diagnosis is stigma and it is dishonorable to them.
    They use it as a vulnerability. The way it is in that sspx is attack or be attacked.
    They are vipers. One does not survive in there unless they are likewise a viper.
    That is why they deserve contempt. In a way it helps me fit in.
    My excessive inferiority complex humility from my previous piety was the door they used to abuse me with impuntiy.
    I never defended myself before. That was my flaw. I should have been a wolf and manipulator and lobbiest and politician.
    I should have worked the crowd using psychological manipulation tactics to ensure the security of my place at the chapel.
    I didnt bother. I prayed and did penances. Look where it got me. Thrown out of my own religion permanently.
    Denied the right to go back to it. So dont tell me the ball is in my court. Dont tell me to pray or repent.
    It was those very things that got me expelled in the first place by people who did neither.

    People can throw you out of a chapel, or out of a school, or out of a chess club, but nobody can throw you out of your religion, not even the devil himself.

    If you're no longer welcome in your local chapel for unjust reasons, shake the dust off your feet and call yourself blessed.

    I know there's a priest not far from you who traveled to the other side of the world (literally, I am in New Zealand!) to hear my confession. I am sure he would be more than happy to travel a few miles down the road to visit you too. All you have to do is ask him, and be nice to him.

    So, yes, the ball is in your court. Would you like a visit from a Traditional Catholic priests who does care about you? Or would you rather keep hitting your head against a brick wall at the local SSPX?


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    « Reply #38 on: January 18, 2018, 06:06:56 PM »
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  • People can throw you out of a chapel, or out of a school, or out of a chess club, but nobody can throw you out of your religion, not even the devil himself.

    If you're no longer welcome in your local chapel for unjust reasons, shake the dust off your feet and call yourself blessed.

    I know there's a priest not far from you who traveled to the other side of the world (literally, I am in New Zealand!) to hear my confession. I am sure he would be more than happy to travel a few miles down the road to visit you too. All you have to do is ask him, and be nice to him.

    So, yes, the ball is in your court. Would you like a visit from a Traditional Catholic priests who does care about you? Or would you rather keep hitting your head against a brick wall at the local SSPX?
    What makes you think I want a "Confession". Why does he have a right to hear my secrets.
    He is fallible and human and not superior to me. You are projecting your own confession habit onto me.
    It is not the solution to everything. Confession alone once every few months is not enough to sustain a persons faith.
    They need a church to go to, sermons, eucharist, other sacraments, community.
    You wont admit that I am polarized against the religion because of the treatment I got.
    You claim I lack knowledge on the religion. But I used to be one of you.
    I know that in your theology I dont even need confession, I can be saved by an act of contrition.
    But you are not being realistic. Why should I be contrite for my infractions of catholic laws.
    Catholics dont even follow their own laws. Why should I go back to humiliation and grovelling a god while other stone cold people use that very humility to persecute me. It wont work in real life.
    I wont apologize anymore for being human. I am an animal whose only true duty is to his genes.
    I have another philosophy now. I wont be guilt tripped into a rabbit hole of abstractions and delusions because it leaves me defencelesss against the relentless attacks of the mob in the chapel.
    Why dont you address these phariseeical hypocrites who stole the chapel.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #39 on: January 18, 2018, 06:31:06 PM »
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  • What makes you think I want a "Confession". Why does he have a right to hear my secrets.
    He is fallible and human and not superior to me. You are projecting your own confession habit onto me.
    It is not the solution to everything. Confession alone once every few months is not enough to sustain a persons faith.
    They need a church to go to, sermons, eucharist, other sacraments, community.
    You wont admit that I am polarized against the religion because of the treatment I got.
    You claim I lack knowledge on the religion. But I used to be one of you.
    I know that in your theology I dont even need confession, I can be saved by an act of contrition.
    But you are not being realistic. Why should I be contrite for my infractions of catholic laws.
    Catholics dont even follow their own laws. Why should I go back to humiliation and grovelling a god while other stone cold people use that very humility to persecute me. It wont work in real life.
    I wont apologize anymore for being human. I am an animal whose only true duty is to his genes.
    I have another philosophy now. I wont be guilt tripped into a rabbit hole of abstractions and delusions because it leaves me defencelesss against the relentless attacks of the mob in the chapel.
    Why dont you address these phariseeical hypocrites who stole the chapel.

    >> What makes you think I want a "Confession".

    I don't know whether you want one, but I do know you need one.

    >> Why does he have a right to hear my secrets.

    I would not exactly call it a right to listen to your sins, it's more like taking a bath in a sewer! But it is your right as a Catholic to get yourself cleaned up.

    >> It is not the solution to everything.

    It's not the end of every solution, but is certainly is the start to all solutions.

    >> Confession alone once every few months is not enough to sustain a persons faith.

    So far it's worked for me and my family. And it seems to be working well for many others too.

    >> They need a church to go to, sermons, eucharist, other sacraments, community.

    Given that you're not getting it at the local SSPX, why don't you look for it elsewhere? Ask and you shall receive.

    >> You wont admit that I am polarized against the religion because of the treatment I got.

    I admit it, as it's rather obvious. But that doesn't mean that it's the solution to your problem.

    >> You claim I lack knowledge on the religion. But I used to be one of you. I know that in your theology I dont even need confession, I can be saved by an act of contrition. But you are not being realistic. Why should I be contrite for my infractions of catholic laws.

    You've answered your own question. You know everything you need to know, you just refuse to do it.

    >> Catholics dont even follow their own laws.

    True, many Catholics don't. But neither do you.

    >> Why should I go back to humiliation and grovelling a god while other stone cold people use that very humility to persecute me.

    Oh yes, you will go back and "grovel", either here on earth for a few minutes or in hell for the rest of eternity. But you will bend your knee (even if you call it groveling).

    >> Why dont you address these phariseeical hypocrites who stole the chapel.

    Because I don't know what happened there, and if what you say is true there is nothing I can do about it. There's hypocrites everywhere, especially among the atheist you're so keen to join. And in case you haven't noticed yet, you are very quickly becoming what you despise.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #40 on: January 18, 2018, 08:17:39 PM »
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  • >> What makes you think I want a "Confession".

    I don't know whether you want one, but I do know you need one.

    >> Why does he have a right to hear my secrets.

    I would not exactly call it a right to listen to your sins, it's more like taking a bath in a sewer! But it is your right as a Catholic to get yourself cleaned up.

    >> It is not the solution to everything.

    It's not the end of every solution, but is certainly is the start to all solutions.

    >> Confession alone once every few months is not enough to sustain a persons faith.

    So far it's worked for me and my family. And it seems to be working well for many others too.

    >> They need a church to go to, sermons, eucharist, other sacraments, community.

    Given that you're not getting it at the local SSPX, why don't you look for it elsewhere? Ask and you shall receive.

    >> You wont admit that I am polarized against the religion because of the treatment I got.

    I admit it, as it's rather obvious. But that doesn't mean that it's the solution to your problem.

    >> You claim I lack knowledge on the religion. But I used to be one of you. I know that in your theology I dont even need confession, I can be saved by an act of contrition. But you are not being realistic. Why should I be contrite for my infractions of catholic laws.

    You've answered your own question. You know everything you need to know, you just refuse to do it.

    >> Catholics dont even follow their own laws.

    True, many Catholics don't. But neither do you.

    >> Why should I go back to humiliation and grovelling a god while other stone cold people use that very humility to persecute me.

    Oh yes, you will go back and "grovel", either here on earth for a few minutes or in hell for the rest of eternity. But you will bend your knee (even if you call it groveling).

    >> Why dont you address these phariseeical hypocrites who stole the chapel.

    Because I don't know what happened there, and if what you say is true there is nothing I can do about it. There's hypocrites everywhere, especially among the atheist you're so keen to join. And in case you haven't noticed yet, you are very quickly becoming what you despise.
    You are pathologizing my dissent from catholic ideology and imposing a punishment of humiliating myself before an authority figure of that church. If I dont submit to said authority figure, your argument implies that my complaints are false. You distilled nothing from my posts other than I should go to confession. I should just get back in line, hush up, and suffer in silence. And if the next chapel I go to gets taken from me, do the same... and the next, and the next, and on and on, a wandering drifting christian, struggling in vain against impossible odds to practice a religion that consistently slams doors in his face. Yet you claim your god is truth, so I ought to admit the truth, and the truth is that this church disowned me and I am a scapegoat orphan from an abusive community, and it is the same in all valid churches, the same atmosphere exists there. When will the persecution end. Why must I suffer in silence. That is ridiculous.
    This far no further is what I should say. They stole my local chapel. That is intolerable.
    The same mice will infest other chapels and steal them also. This far no further.
    I have a right to go and what they wrongfully do is impose a de facto excommunication on me through the hecklers veto.
    No one should let them away with it. But then again no one takes my side because Im worthless because of a diagnosis and people like me carry stigma in society therefore the chapel gets a bad image if Im there. So no one thinks its profitable for their society if I go there. Psychiatry is more powerful than god. Bigotry destroys and corrupts.
    Instead of pathologizing my dissent from the supposed impression that all is perfect in paradise, which no one should believe, and which everyone should doubt because they know what they themselves and sspx parishes are prone to,
    you should pathologize the sspx with your same spiritual puritanism and not expect victims to suffer in silence, because your policy of pray and do nothing practical, and tell the victims to hush and confess, covers up the problems in the church and it is a cowardly approach that ignores festering problems and leads to even more victims and a trail of destruction.


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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #41 on: January 18, 2018, 08:27:30 PM »
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  • You are pathologizing my dissent from catholic ideology and imposing a punishment of humiliating myself before an authority figure of that church. If I dont submit to said authority figure, your argument implies that my complaints are false. You distilled nothing from my posts other than I should go to confession. I should just get back in line, hush up, and suffer in silence. And if the next chapel I go to gets taken from me, do the same... and the next, and the next, and on and on, a wandering drifting christian, struggling in vain against impossible odds to practice a religion that consistently slams doors in his face. Yet you claim your god is truth, so I ought to admit the truth, and the truth is that this church disowned me and I am a scapegoat orphan from an abusive community, and it is the same in all valid churches, the same atmosphere exists there. When will the persecution end. Why must I suffer in silence. That is ridiculous.
    This far no further is what I should say. They stole my local chapel. That is intolerable.
    The same mice will infest other chapels and steal them also. This far no further.
    I have a right to go and what they wrongfully do is impose a de facto excommunication on me through the hecklers veto.
    No one should let them away with it. But then again no one takes my side because Im worthless because of a diagnosis and people like me carry stigma in society therefore the chapel gets a bad image if Im there. So no one thinks its profitable for their society if I go there. Psychiatry is more powerful than god. Bigotry destroys and corrupts.
    Instead of pathologizing my dissent from the supposed impression that all is perfect in paradise, which no one should believe, and which everyone should doubt because they know what they themselves and sspx parishes are prone to,
    you should pathologize the sspx with your same spiritual puritanism and not expect victims to suffer in silence, because your policy of pray and do nothing practical, and tell the victims to hush and confess, covers up the problems in the church and it is a cowardly approach that ignores festering problems and leads to even more victims and a trail of destruction.

    No, I am telling you to move on.

    You have an offer of people praying for you.

    You have an offer of people wanting to talk to you.

    You have an offer of a priest visiting you and helping you with the sacraments.

    Stop moaning about what others have done to you and move on with your life. Do you think you're the only person that suffered injustice? So what? Leave revenge up to God and make sure you don't become like "one of them" yourself.

    I have nothing else to offer you. Take the help that's been offered, or leave it.

    You're still welcome to contact me through email, but other than that, I won't give you any more publicity.

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    « Reply #42 on: January 18, 2018, 08:38:04 PM »
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  • No, I am telling you to move on.

    You have an offer of people praying for you.

    You have an offer of people wanting to talk to you.

    You have an offer of a priest visiting you and helping you with the sacraments.

    Stop moaning about what others have done to you and move on with your life. Do you think you're the only person that suffered injustice? So what? Leave revenge up to God and make sure you don't become like "one of them" yourself.

    I have nothing else to offer you. Take the help that's been offered, or leave it.

    You're still welcome to contact me through email, but other than that, I won't give you any more publicity.
    Do you ever actually deal with problems head on? Or are you evasive on this issue because you weighed up the strength differential between 1 hijackers 2 individual victim, and are telling me to be silent while telling them nothing.
    Just walk away? It is MY church just as much as it is theirs. I OWN my own personal dignity, and I will not let this affront to my dignity as a human being go down in history as an unchallenged walk over. I will not do so because I have to compete in life as everyone else does, and I will not let the psychological scar ( which you would persuade me to let be reafflicted again and again) tell me that in the face of such disgusting conspirators who inflicted much hurt on me that I should be silent and walk away and say nothing to no one. Now you even resent that I got some publicity and try to claim it as something you bestowed, when it was ME who started this thread and MY posts that provided substance to it.
    There never was any substance to your one size fits all fake charity was there.
    Charity is an aspect of God, so is Justice. God is a union of all his aspects. You want me to have one without the other, yet you do not truly give me Charity therefore you are not giving me justice either.
    If I want Justice it is to my credit, despite what you claim.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #43 on: January 18, 2018, 08:54:46 PM »
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  • In conclusion: Samuel wants me to be quiet, say nothing, walk away.

    Basically brush it all under the rug and let them get away with hijacking the chapel and persecuting disabled people.

    You know what will happen samuel? This will all happen again to someone else, and maybe they wont be so lucky.
    Maybe they really will walk away, from the church, and the pharisees will rub their hands with glee and be glad that another weirdo is also gone... to hell that is... but they can get comfortable owning the chapel so who cares.

    At least I, due to my previous extreme piety, consistently reach out to people.
    But if they spit in my face, then they spit in my face, and I should defend myself.
    If I suffer in silence in humility I am betraying my dignity as a man who has a duty to himself.
    I will not go back to my penetential slave abject humble ways.
    Again I retain my resentment because it reinforces my sense of self worth and I need it.
    And IT leads to my defending myself. I am right to do it.
    Whoever says Im not is obfuscating the issue with sophistry and unreasonable puritanism applied to me but not anyone else.

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    « Reply #44 on: January 18, 2018, 09:33:53 PM »
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  • Oh and btw Samuel, dont give in to the temptation of your vanity that tells you that you solved the puzzle with a few comments on a forum. You did not. I got the exact same empty platitudes and standard unworkable theological puritanism answers ( correct in theology but impossible in practice - AND double standards, perfection demanded of me and not of others),
    from people who never bothered their backside to do anything about an impossible lock out of the chapel.
    If I say I need the chapel to be catholic, then I NEED it and I dont need to explain the details why.
    I suspect the reason that unreasonable theological purity is demanded of me is because of my low status due to being a stigmatized diagnosed person. If this happened to someone who was not white, was female, or otherwise more valuable than me by default, then you would not put unworkable solutions on them.
    See you have no solutions. Your whole argument was "Chillax bro".
    You have no solution for me. You dont see that your theological straitjacket perceptions where all things revolve around the practice of the virtues and the world is in sync with virtue in a system of perfect justice... is a delusion.
    I can be as virtuous as I want, but unless my rights are set in stone and defended then my virtue is destroyed.
    Virtuous people are also vulnerable because they are humble, and at the same time impressionable and subject to human weaknesses. What needs to happen is the conversion and confronting of the pharisees.
    Your own bible says to go in search of the 1 sheep that was straying and leave the 99 behind.
    Yet you tell that one sheep, in a lazy way, requiring no more effort than a forum post, to suck it up, be silent, and sweep it under the rug, thus creating a time bomb either in the chapel if I attend it, or in my own psyche where I will eventually tire of being so humble in the face of such disgusting individuals because my nature will rebel against the persecution.
    You are essentially saying that I need to totally submit myself to abstractions, the abstract notions of theology and be perfectly humble and in union with theology to obtain "salvation", but you require of me a perfection that not even the saints have mastered. You place me in an apocalyptic predicament with no where to go and with persecution on all fronts.
    You require me to somehow achieve transcendental self mastery from a beginning of nothing but my own "imprudent" past devotional experiences and newcomers knowledge of trad catholicism, in order to win your argument.
    You sophist. You and your non sequitars and fallacies and philosophical idealistic fantasies and exact specifications for what I should do and not do. Cowardice in the face of injustice.