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Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
« on: January 16, 2018, 06:59:55 PM »
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    They are familiar with this case but some are intimidated into silence amidst a cover up.
    I want everyone to know I resent what they done.

    The following should be sent to those involved.
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    I'm totally lost as to what you and the influential chapel parishioners want me to say in order to be treated as if I have a right to go to Mass and Sacraments.
    I already explained numerous times that your peers are trying to illegally get me banned even if I do nothing wrong, and they do this by lobbying priests.
    But you don't care.
    None of you do.

    So what exactly am I supposed to do or say in order to get treated like I have a right to be there? Can you answer that question??
    All you people do is call me "Nutjob" and then give me the silent boycott treatment.

    Question 1:
    So what exactly do you expect me to conclude or say or do?

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    Am I right that you heap contempt upon vulnerable disabled people for the reasons I have outlined in my various allegations which contain many obvious facts which are also stated by others?
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    Was I right all along?

    It looks as if I was right, and by calling me "Nutjob" names and then boycotting me after you make it impossible for me to practice my religion now that is the only impression you people give me.

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    How can you call yourself a follower of Jesus if you wont give people the dignity of a response?
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    If I was wrong about your society, which I doubt,  then why cant you enlighten me as to why my allegations are incorrect?
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    Is it because I am not worth saving because I am disabled? Was I in fact right all along?
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    And why should people submit to parishioners who treat their souls with contempt?
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    And if you are all the pinnacle of sanctity and can do no wrong, then why do you have no concern for my soul? And why actively try to expel me from the church?
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    And why polarize me against it?
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    Does Jesus want to save my soul or not?
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    And why were many of you bullying a person who had a history of self harm in a cruel manner?
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    And why did you not stop once he started to show suicidal tendencies?
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    And why did you not think he should have contact with the church during that time in order to prevent his death?
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    And why did you ridicule him with names like "nutjob" when he returned?
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    And why did you try to get him expelled when he went back through complaints to Menzigen and the District superior?
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    And what exactly could you complain about other than the situation that you think mentally ill people have no right to be in the church and should be banned for that sole reason?
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    And how are you people so successful in manipulating Fr Griego to act on behalf of your bigotry against disabled people?
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    And how were you able to coax Fr Griego into covering up the ordeals of bullying and emotional abuse that a vulnerable person suffered while attending Corpus Christi?
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    And why does none of these legitimate complaints register on your conscience?
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    Is it because I have no value and my soul is worthless?
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    Do you refuse to care because as a disabled person No one should care about me and I don't even have a right to be in a Catholic church?
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    And what exactly am I supposed to apologized for which initiated my ban in the first place?
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    And what exactly is the words of this apology supposed to refer to and state?
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    And what was i banned for?
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    And why do I have no right to access the church for Mass and Sacraments?
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    And if some infraction of church law took place why is it not forgiven?
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    And is it for sending an angry text message?
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    And if that is the reason then why are the many incidents of people being angry towards me not also ban worthy?
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    And do you know what she done which provoked that text message ( overt threatening to get me locked up and belittling me and bullying on the phone)
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    And do you know X ridiculed me regularly and bullied me when I attended church ( "youre making too much noise walking into church and disturbing me, can you not walk on your tippey toes or something? Then others walk in making much louder noise and she says nothing to them) ( I have many examples)
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    How does she get awa with leaving threatening notes in the bookshelf in the parish hall which contained words like (Injection, hospital, mediation, torn from a page and placed in the books which I read often)
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    And if you believe in Patriarchy then why does a female have permission to heap contempt on a male?
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    And why does X have the authority to slam the door of the chapel in the face of someone fresh from the confession box who spoke to the priest inside who granted him permission to be there?
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    And why if I apologize for whatever it is I am supposed to have done, is it not accepted?
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    And why does the sacrament of penance not work on me if it works on you?
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    And why do none of you feel the need to confess what you done?
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    And is it because as you have demonstrated with repeated lobbying efforts, you want to do it again?
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    And why are there no open lines of communication between me and whoever it is I have supposedly wronged in order for me to make such an apology?
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    And why do others not need to apologize to me?
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    And why is my suffering irrelevant but your displeasure at my presence more relevant than my salvation?
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    And why do you think it is acceptable in Jesus opinion for individuals to be thrown out of the church and boycotted by all?
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    And why do my spiritual needs not matter to any of you?
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    And why is the best you can do is jeer me behind my back and lobby priests behind my back and then collectively give me the silent treatment?
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    And do you claim I am inferior because of a disability?
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    And do people diagnosed deserve contempt?
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    And do you believe I am possessed by the devil because of a diagnosis?
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    And have any of you voiced your unconventional beliefs and behavior to a psychiatrist to see if you yourselves are perfectly sane?
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    And why can't someone with a diagnosis go to church?
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    And do you feel the same about the 390 million other people who also have a diagnosis?
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    And would you likewise encourage them to die or bully them if you knew for a fact that they were suicidal at the time?
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    And would you likewise slam the door in their faces?
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    And would you also call them "nutjobs" even if you have never met them before? ( That american couple referred to me as "That guys a total nutjob" even though they never met me before because it is fashionable amongst Corpus Christi parishioners to persecute me)
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    And am I a "Bad Potato"? (X explained to the priest through metaphors that I was a bad potato who would corrupt the good potatoes who should be put into a field and covered in (dung))
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    And what did I do against him personally to merit such contempt?
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    And if I done nothing to provoke it then will you admit that I am persecuted because of my perceived vulnerability due to a diagnosis?
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    And if your peers encouraged you to refer to someone as a nutjob and bully them then would you?
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    And would you feel the need to go to confession for insulting someone who was a "Nutjob"?
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    And if not is it because you think such people give the church a bad image and you want to make them unwelcome, regardless of the needs of their soul?
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    And if your church excludes people with disabilities then why do you claim you are religious and not a social club?
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    And where in the bible does it say to call people nutjobs and lobby to get them banned from churches and slam doors in their faces and boycott them? Can you give me an exact scripture refernece for that?
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    And why was there absolutely no investigation into my side of the story?
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    And why was I condemned by Fr Griego before I ever met him?
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    And why with physical injuries was I forced to travel to the other side of the country for Mass and sacraments needing to stay in a hostel to go there?
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    And why are others forgiven ( former resistance people) but I am not?
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    Is it because you see them as useful but me a burden?
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    Are their souls worth more than mine?
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    Is my soul worth anything?
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    Do you care if I doubt that the Catholic church is interested in souls?
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    And why do my opinions not count?
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    And why do influential chapel regulars have a say in whether or not I can go to church?
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    And why do they collectively condemn me behind my back and conspire to remove me from the church?
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    And why do you get indignant if i repay your contempt with my own contempt?
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    And why are people forbidden to question your treatment towards vulnerable people?
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    And why are the parishioners of the SSPX the only ones who think my opinions are irrelevant?
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    And is it because of a diagnosis that I am not permitted to attend a church?
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    And what qualifications do you have in psychology?
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    And what qualifications do you have in psychiatry?
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    And given these qualifications what is your thesis diagnose routine for the label of "nutjob" and why does a diagnosis even matter so much to you?
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    And why do you not like disabled people?
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    And why do you heap contempt upon them?
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    And why is a disability worthy of de facto excommunication?
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    And where in Canon Law does it say that the punishment for mental illness is excommunication and that the faithful must heap contempt upon such an individual until they die in despair?
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    And if a soul is in despair why are you satisfied with that result?
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    And if you polarize a soul against the Catholic church why do you think that situation should be allowed to continue?
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    And why do you have nothing to apologize for?
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    And why are disabled people not worthy of dignity?
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    And why are disabled people not worthy of apologies?
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    And why are disabled people not allowed attend church for Mass and Sacraments?
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    And why are disabled people worthy of contempt on account of disability?
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    And why are disabled people not entitled to have their side of the story heard?
    Why is there no Due process in my case?
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    And if a parishioner imitates practices of certain saints why do you call it "Imprudent"?
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    Is it because he is exposing your superficiality by his example?
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    And should a nun have a massage business?
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    And should a nun disobey bishops and join schismatic sects and still be regarded as a member of the church?
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    And if someone is a sinner should you not do penance for them? And should said penance not be equal to the gravity of the sin?
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    And what kind of professed religious shouts "How did he get back in here" when I go to church to save my soul?
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    And do you know that she has her own psychiatric illness and is not on medication, and do you lobby to get her banned as you did to me?
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    And do you know she is guilty of fraud and was exposed on national radio for procuring funds from a village in co Mayo under false reasons?
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    And do you think that in justice she ought to reimburse the money belonging to people she lied to and manipulated?
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    And do you think you are morally superior?
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    And if the holy spirit dwells in unity, then do you think your society which experienced a civil war possesses the holy spirit?
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    And do any of you actually care about souls? Or is it just those who you think are useful to the reputation and image of your society?
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    And do you think that by showing preference in who you permit to attend your chapel that you will not incur the perception from mainstream society that your group is an elite club and not a religious group?

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #1 on: January 16, 2018, 07:46:08 PM »
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  • Before anyone replies... I Expect ad hominem personal attacks and accusations.
    I know that when this question was previously raised the response was never to listen or investigate, but to blame the victim and cancel out any reason to investigate with accusations against the victim.

    These are all questions that they Daren't answer. They lack the courage to answer them.
    They cannot face their own sins. Some horrible ordeal took place at that chapel which almost caused someone to die by suicide. The perpetrators have absolutely no remorse or shame.

    The victim now posted this serious of 100+ questions for those responsible.
    I am not Catholic anymore and I grew to resent the church after my agonizing experience caused by SSPX parishioners.
    If anyone dares to challenge these facts, my email address is available from the forum.
    I will debate any person connected to this in email.

    For those who think Ostracism works... O really? I totally rejected the religion and brood with resentment after my experience.
    I mean, how simple can it be to offer a helping hand of friendship to a soul for the purpose of saving them?
    No one bothers, and that is a proof of my accusations that these were false catholic elitists.

    Well I hope Jesus slamms the door of heaven in your faces too. And I hope when you pray you also get the silent treatment.

    For any coward who I know is going to insult me over this, be assured that I hate what you have done to me.
    For every one of your pathetic accusations I have 1000 serious ones of my own which you cannot deny lest be a liar.

    Finally I am not finished exposing the SSPX and even though I will be banned from this forum I will continue my plan to expose the abuse and cover up that happened in the SSPX and I am by far not nearly finished being angry at the perpetrators.

    I feel betrayed by the church and forcefully expelled from my own religion unjustly.
    Therefore i lost my faith and no one cares if I go to hell according to your religion.

    I will find a way of getting justice against those responsible.
    I dont care what sanctions I incur, or what you say or do, or what the consequences are.
    I will speak the truth and expose the SSPX.

    I dont expect any sympathy because I know what trads are like.
    Be assured the feeling of contempt is mutual. And I am NOT done with you.


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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #2 on: January 16, 2018, 08:04:56 PM »
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  • I am wiling to talk to you by email or phone. If you agree to this then you can initiate this contact by emailing me on admin@tradidi.com.

    But I strongly disagree with the fact that you've made so many vague accusations which most of the people on CI will not be able to verify. That is detraction and/or calumny. Whatever happened to you, two wrongs don't make a right.

    And I know with moral certainty that at least some of the accusations you've just made are simply wrong.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #3 on: January 16, 2018, 10:44:31 PM »
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  •  :pray:I care about you even though I don't know you.  We here on Cathinfo will pray for you too.  

    To live with the Saints in Heaven is all bliss and glory....To live with the saints on Earth is just another story!  (unknown)

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #4 on: January 16, 2018, 10:58:05 PM »
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  • I am wiling to talk to you by email or phone. If you agree to this then you can initiate this contact by emailing me on admin@tradidi.com.

    But I strongly disagree with the fact that you've made so many vague accusations which most of the people on CI will not be able to verify. That is detraction and/or calumny. Whatever happened to you, two wrongs don't make a right.

    And I know with moral certainty that at least some of the accusations you've just made are simply wrong.
    Who cares what you think?
    If this is some trad trying to assume the moral high ground, let me remind you that the Catholic church in the opinion of the entire world has lost it's claim to assuming the right to make declarations based on "moral certainty".
    I am not a trad anymore, I was convinced that I should not be one anymore.
    You could be me in a few years if you get an "Informative experience" on the nature of Catholics.
    I am disgusted that your initial reaction is defensive and accusatory.
    This was a post intended to shame people who tried to destroy a vulnerable person.
    I knew I would get ad hominem attacks.
    Why cant you answer the questions. Are you afraid to answer the questions?
    Cat got your tongue? Are they too difficult? Do they require a bit of stepping down from the high horse of trad perfections?
    I think the only thing you people worship is yourselves and I EXPECTED to be attacked.
    I am laughing at your arrogance. You were not there, yet you KNOW I am wrong because I questioned Paradise.
    Trouble in paradise is there? Nothing to see here. Just brush all our victims under the carpet.
    As for contact, why dont you email me first because my settings allow members to email me.
    And I dont care if you think it is calumny. I know what calumny is. That is accusing people in the wrong.
    However I am in the right and I always was. Why do you think I went from a devout sspx trad to being an atheist?
    I think you people had some role to play in my loss of faith and its time to OWN up and stop being in denial.


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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #5 on: January 16, 2018, 11:05:59 PM »
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  • :pray:I care about you even though I don't know you.  We here on Cathinfo will pray for you too.  
    Not good enough. That is a get out of doing the right thing clause.
    The parishioners have to OWN their sinful mistake.
    If I go back to the chapel the superior gets lobbied by parishioners and pressurized to ban me even if I do nothing against anybody. They are obstacles to me practicing the religion.
    How dare anyone hijack the chapel and run it for a select few and impose this injustice on me.
    Its time they own their mistake or else I will walk away from catholcism and go to hell according to their own beliefs.
    They dont care if I go to hell. They want to keep doing what they are doing. They think I give the chapel a bad image.
    They only want people with money and charisma going to church. They want to pick and choose who is able to go.
    But I have a soul according to their religion, which I doubt they even truly believe in.
    Therefore I am worth something and I do not deserve contempt and obstructionist efforts to deny me mass and sacraments.
    But I am at the point I dont even want sacraments. I hate the church now. Thanks to those responsible.
    And they dont care. And they think it is cool not to care.
    And they think it is fashionable amongst their peers to call people "nutjobs" and pressurize priests to punish them on their behalf.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #6 on: January 16, 2018, 11:11:28 PM »
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  • Nobody dares to answer my questions.

    Go on. 
    More ad hominem attacks.
    More empty platitudes.
    More empty promises.
    More empty virtue signals.
    More evasiveness.
    More obfuscation.
    More blaming the victim.

    I know you can do it... just remind yourself of all the times you people bullied this vulnerable person and he did not defend himself and convince yourself that he is the same way he used to be, and will take it all over again.
    I know you can do it! Tap into that anti social narcissism from your empty unfulfilled lives and unleash it on your convenient victim at the moment.
    Never mind the consequences.  
    There are no nutjobs in heaven, you know that for a fact.
    Besides bullying him is fashionable and cool. Scapegoats exist for only one thing. Amirite lads?

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #7 on: January 16, 2018, 11:50:33 PM »
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  • Where do the priests stand?

    The superior condemned me before he ever met me.
    There was absolutely zero investigation. I was never allowed defend myself.

    I could avoid the SSPX for almost a year, and everytime I reach out to make contact the priests have a different accusation to level at me, ones I had not heard before. Outrageous ones. They shout at me over the phone. They call me names most of which accuse me of bad morals, crimes, and they like using psychiatric terminology.
    A culture of sensational delusions infests the SSPX surrounding me.
    Their imaginations are left free to run away and concoct accusations which are instantly believed and I am punished for them.
    One day it is "the police called you" FALSE
    Another day it is "so you broke her window" FALSE
    Another day it is "so you said this to this person" FALSE
    Another day it is "So I heard you phoned this person and threatened them etc" FALSE

    I could actually sue the SSPX over what they have done to me.
    They know it takes money to hire legal representation and that is why they felt secure in getting away with it.
    All my evidence is provided by these people themselves and their own actions condemn them.
    Who are my witnesses to this? They themselves are my witnesses and evidence.

    I saw their vicious cat fights when half the chapel left to join the resistance.
    I saw the contempt that dwells inside them when the mask fell off.
    I saw them resort to lies manipulation and pressurizing priests.
    Some of them thought it was a good idea to complain and get a newly constructed resistance chapel shut down on fire safety grounds despite it taking money to build. They wanted the people who left to have no choice but to come grovelling back.
    They do the same to me. They want me to self censor and cover up what they did to me so that if I question anything they can collectively pull strings to get me banned even if I do nothing.

    Why do I have to be the one doing all the reaching out to my former abusers?
    Why am I the one making the phone calls and emails. They claim to be the catholics so why dont they try save my soul?
    Why am I doing all the work and getting the door slammed in my face and ridicule every time from these frauds.
    Why do I have to appeal to the religion to get them to lift their boycott of me so that I can go to church without being banned for practicing the religion. The only reason I contact people is because of this very pressure they put on priests to ban me for life without any opportunity to return thus condemning me to hell. And for what, sending a text with the F off word in it? To someone who ranted at me over the phone with anger and threats.
    You try to destroy peoples lives then claim you are shocked when they get angry and rebuke you?
    Bullies who scream in agony as they hit their victim? Typical leftist tactics from catholic hypocrites.

    I know I will be banned but my resentment will continue for the rest of my life.
    There is no way back to the church because some pharisees obstruct me.
    Fair enough. Your peers mean more than my soul.
    My contempt is wrong yet your contempt is virtuous? Why? Because Im the scapegoat?
    Get real. I wont tolerate the life of misery and persecution the church offers to me.
    I will live my life and be happy and I will remove negative influences from my life and that means Catholics.
    Who needs that poison in their life. What have they got to offer but hate and misery.


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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #8 on: January 17, 2018, 12:26:15 AM »
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  • soulguard?
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...

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    « Reply #9 on: January 17, 2018, 12:54:40 AM »
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    I type the following in the most serious mood.
    I know a ban is inevitable, but I voiced my side of the story in the form of questions my enemies wont dare to answer.
    As a result of this ban, and the boycott from all bigoted parishioners, I will walk away from the catholic faith,
    never to return, never to make any more heroic efforts to reach out to bigots against me.
    I will sin whenever I feel like, vote against the church in referendums and elections.
    I will blacken the name of all who uphold the sspx amongst my circles as you did to me.
    I will do this and much more, until my pain is cured by seeing my retribution fall on your heads.
    How dare I be thrown out of the catholic church. How dare you people put me through this ordeal.
    How dare you boycott me. How dare you refuse to dignify me with an apology.
    Yes you will press that button, and cite my posts as reason.
    But the true reason is that what I report opens a can of worms and I was correct to state that Im the scapegoat.
    I should have called myself "Victim of Bigots".
    Go ahead and press that button if you wish to silence a victim, yet know that in doing so you are terminating my only way to see a miraculous apology from those bigots who persecuted me, which is the only way to save my soul.
    I cannot practice the religion unless they show repentance and unless they cease their politcal efforts to get me banned from the sspx for life. At present the priests dismiss their allegations for lack of evidence and falsehoods.
    The priests know what the parishioners are like, and the parishioners presently make the priests lives miserable.
    They have gone too far and gotten their own way for too long.
    When they invoke Griego I am condemned for sure, that guy condemns me without investigation and I know it,
    therefore I see no harm posting on this forum. Damned if I do damned if I dont.
    What I say is important. If you press that button then that is the nail in the coffin of my efforts to solve the problem.
    You want your chapel only for a select few? Fine. Push the button.
    I will go to hell, but if ye cared about my soul none of this would have happened in the first place now would it?
    I will expose those responsible in the end. Laugh while you can and forget about me.
    I will break your hearts of stone in the future and inflict a scar that will haunt you.
    Victims have a voice and I will make my voice heard in a way no one can censor.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #10 on: January 17, 2018, 01:02:10 AM »
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  • I guess I'll take that as a "yes".

    I have nothing to do with the SSPX. Carry on if you wish.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...


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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #11 on: January 17, 2018, 01:06:54 AM »
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  • I type the following in the most serious mood.
    I know a ban is inevitable, but I voiced my side of the story in the form of questions my enemies wont dare to answer.
    As a result of this ban, and the boycott from all bigoted parishioners, I will walk away from the catholic faith,
    never to return, never to make any more heroic efforts to reach out to bigots against me.
    I will sin whenever I feel like, vote against the church in referendums and elections.
    I will blacken the name of all who uphold the sspx amongst my circles as you did to me.
    I will do this and much more, until my pain is cured by seeing my retribution fall on your heads.
    How dare I be thrown out of the catholic church. How dare you people put me through this ordeal.
    How dare you boycott me. How dare you refuse to dignify me with an apology.
    Yes you will press that button, and cite my posts as reason.
    But the true reason is that what I report opens a can of worms and I was correct to state that Im the scapegoat.
    I should have called myself "Victim of Bigots".
    Go ahead and press that button if you wish to silence a victim, yet know that in doing so you are terminating my only way to see a miraculous apology from those bigots who persecuted me, which is the only way to save my soul.
    I cannot practice the religion unless they show repentance and unless they cease their politcal efforts to get me banned from the sspx for life. At present the priests dismiss their allegations for lack of evidence and falsehoods.
    The priests know what the parishioners are like, and the parishioners presently make the priests lives miserable.
    They have gone too far and gotten their own way for too long.
    When they invoke Griego I am condemned for sure, that guy condemns me without investigation and I know it,
    therefore I see no harm posting on this forum. Damned if I do damned if I dont.
    What I say is important. If you press that button then that is the nail in the coffin of my efforts to solve the problem.
    You want your chapel only for a select few? Fine. Push the button.
    I will go to hell, but if ye cared about my soul none of this would have happened in the first place now would it?
    I will expose those responsible in the end. Laugh while you can and forget about me.
    I will break your hearts of stone in the future and inflict a scar that will haunt you.
    Victims have a voice and I will make my voice heard in a way no one can censor.
    You're always a Catholic from baptism. No one has thrown you out of the Catholic Church. You might feel abused by some Catholics, but you have to put things into perspective. The most important thing is that Jesus still loves you. As for the hurt, if you trust in Jesus Christ he will help you. 
    I have no idea what has happened to you, but you're obviously distraught. The fact you can't go to a Chapel of your choosing doesn't mean that you should feel like this. At this point, for your own soul, any good conservative Catholic parish or chapel should be of help. 

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #12 on: January 17, 2018, 02:09:05 AM »
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  • Hi Victim of the SSPX,

    What kind of support are you looking for from this forum? I don't doubt anything your telling us but I would like to know how to help. Do you need prayers? Do you want someone to step forward who knows the situation to back up what your saying? Or do you just have the need to vent and get it out after going though all that?

    Thanks
    James

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #13 on: January 17, 2018, 02:57:11 AM »
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  • Who cares what you think?
    If this is some trad trying to assume the moral high ground, let me remind you that the Catholic church in the opinion of the entire world has lost it's claim to assuming the right to make declarations based on "moral certainty".
    I am not a trad anymore, I was convinced that I should not be one anymore.
    You could be me in a few years if you get an "Informative experience" on the nature of Catholics.

    This was a post intended to shame people who tried to destroy a vulnerable person.
    I knew I would get ad hominem attacks.
    Why cant you answer the questions. Are you afraid to answer the questions?
    Cat got your tongue? Are they too difficult? Do they require a bit of stepping down from the high horse of trad perfections?
    I think the only thing you people worship is yourselves and I EXPECTED to be attacked.
    I am laughing at your arrogance. You were not there, yet you KNOW I am wrong because I questioned Paradise.
    Trouble in paradise is there? Nothing to see here. Just brush all our victims under the carpet.
    As for contact, why dont you email me first because my settings allow members to email me.
    And I dont care if you think it is calumny. I know what calumny is. That is accusing people in the wrong.
    However I am in the right and I always was. Why do you think I went from a devout sspx trad to being an atheist?
    I think you people had some role to play in my loss of faith and its time to OWN up and stop being in denial.

    >> I am disgusted that your initial reaction is defensive and accusatory.

    My initial reaction was to try and help you, while at the same time trying to protect those whom you unjustly are including in your hate filled rampage.

    Whether you want help or not is up to you, but feeling hurt about something doesn't give you a license to detract and calumniate as you please.

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    Re: Abuse from parishioners 2016 SSPX Athlone Corpus Christi
    « Reply #14 on: January 17, 2018, 10:53:34 AM »
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  • I will blacken the name of all who uphold the sspx amongst my circles as you did to me.
    I will do this and much more, until my pain is cured by seeing my retribution fall on your heads.


    Are you sure that retribution will cause your pain to go away, and that you'll be cured? 

    I'll offer prayers for you, and for those at the SSPX chapel that you attended. 

    "This forum is a space for discussion to defend the Catholic Faith following Monsignor Marcel Lefebvre. It is therefore not for rallying to the conciliar church nor for sedevacantism"
    - From the French Resistance forum (Francophone forum, in France)

     

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