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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 02:48:14 PM

Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 02:48:14 PM
I have gone in a couple of times and objected strongly. I was speaking to a few people about future plans. I can't speak for others but it's necessary to be forceful. People should be preparing themselves to be removed from the hospitals. Whilst I support contacting the local hospitals, we can't sit around.

For example most, who were present last Friday in Galway were well prepared in the event of receiving blows from a Garda/Police baton.

People are being prepared now for future events. Obviously there will be prayer. Those I have spoken to are getting ready and know the prospect of being dragged away.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 02:59:40 PM
Whilst politicians and abortionists will get their punishment the apathy must be challenged. Local people must be vocal. An idea I had is a picket on every hospital in December.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: soulguard on November 26, 2013, 03:05:36 PM
John grace... Most mysterious revolution leader of all time...

MYSTERIOUS!

Mysterious.

You watch "the outer limits"?
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: parentsfortruth on November 26, 2013, 03:37:23 PM
Why would there be anything wrong with what John is suggesting?

It was recently decreed in their country that abortion (an illegal murderous practice) is "legal." If he wants to be in his own country, and combat that, GREAT FOR HIM!

An illegal law, is no law. So he's MORE than free to do that. If people cow, like they have in the US, and don't FIGHT THIS TOOTH AND NAIL right away, people will become apathetic to it, and won't do anything when Ireland adds to the already astounding number of 43,000,000 babies aborted every year.

 :facepalm:

Can't believe anyone would be opposed to what he's suggesting.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: songbird on November 26, 2013, 03:43:05 PM
In the USA, Planned Parenthood abortion mills are closing to go where the money is.  In hospitals and public entities.  Some people think, that because an abortion mill is closing, that that is good news.  Evidently they are not reading the newspapers that say where the abortions can be had now.  Then people are leading themselves to think that catholic hospitals,are still catholic. They are hospitals that give the "impression" that they are catholic but they are in name only to keep the charity cash rolling in.  The shock is too much for them to believe.  These so called "keep your catholic identity" institutions have been far from God for soooo long.  If it were not for God,letting me read Federal Grants, I would, I think, not where I am today to know that this is the case.   Our biggest enemy is the New Order.  They help to run the Federal Gov't.  doing their agenda to destroy the true Catholic Faith.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: soulguard on November 26, 2013, 03:47:18 PM
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Why would there be anything wrong with what John is suggesting?

It was recently decreed in their country that abortion (an illegal murderous practice) is "legal." If he wants to be in his own country, and combat that, GREAT FOR HIM!

An illegal law, is no law. So he's MORE than free to do that. If people cow, like they have in the US, and don't FIGHT THIS TOOTH AND NAIL right away, people will become apathetic to it, and won't do anything when Ireland adds to the already astounding number of 43,000,000 babies aborted every year.

 :facepalm:

Can't believe anyone would be opposed to what he's suggesting.


Its not about that, its about him. He claims to be in some group in this country which no one has ever heard of other than him. He constantly refers to meetings and events which no one other than himself seems to know anything about.

Look, if there is some movement then at least tell people what is going on.
His posts just look bizarre to me, that's all im saying.

Sure, go picket a hospital with lots of old ladies so the people can laugh at how weak the church is. It is in doctrinal chaos, and all of a sudden when it comes to this magical issue of abortion we are all somehow united and forget the divisions? Sorry, not good enough. The divisions exist because there is no real unity, and there can be no unity, not when apparent trads unite with protestant free love novus ordites for the sake of some protest and forget themselves in the process.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 03:59:50 PM
Quote from: soulguard
John grace... Most mysterious revolution leader of all time...

MYSTERIOUS!

Mysterious.

You watch "the outer limits"?


This is rather uncalled for.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: soulguard on November 26, 2013, 04:06:50 PM
Quote from: John Grace
Quote from: soulguard
John grace... Most mysterious revolution leader of all time...

MYSTERIOUS!

Mysterious.

You watch "the outer limits"?


This is rather uncalled for.


As much as your 4,384 posts?

My single comment < 4,384 mindless ramblings.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 04:09:52 PM
Quote from: soulguard
Quote from: John Grace
Quote from: soulguard
John grace... Most mysterious revolution leader of all time...

MYSTERIOUS!

Mysterious.

You watch "the outer limits"?


This is rather uncalled for.


As much as your 4,384 posts?

My single comment < 4,384 mindless ramblings.


Any particular reason for this attack? Based on an earlier attack and you not being on the forum, I wasn't able to relate news to you. It matters little now.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: soulguard on November 26, 2013, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: John Grace
Quote from: soulguard
Quote from: John Grace
Quote from: soulguard
John grace... Most mysterious revolution leader of all time...

MYSTERIOUS!

Mysterious.

You watch "the outer limits"?


This is rather uncalled for.


As much as your 4,384 posts?

My single comment < 4,384 mindless ramblings.


Any particular reason for this attack? Based on an earlier attack and you not being on the forum, I wasn't able to relate news to you. It matters little now.


What news? Why assume people know what you are talking about?

I have never met any resistance and never heard of them before I came to this forum. I am here a good while and still don't know much about them.
I am a Catholic who prefers the latin mass, hence I am a customer for any movement or latin mass.
Consider this a customers complaint.
That is all.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 04:26:06 PM
Quote from: soulguard
Quote from: John Grace
Quote from: soulguard
Quote from: John Grace
Quote from: soulguard
John grace... Most mysterious revolution leader of all time...

MYSTERIOUS!

Mysterious.

You watch "the outer limits"?


This is rather uncalled for.


As much as your 4,384 posts?

My single comment < 4,384 mindless ramblings.


Any particular reason for this attack? Based on an earlier attack and you not being on the forum, I wasn't able to relate news to you. It matters little now.


What news? Why assume people know what you are talking about?

I have never met any resistance and never heard of them before I came to this forum. I am here a good while and still don't know much about them.
I am a Catholic who prefers the latin mass, hence I am a customer for any movement or latin mass.
Consider this a customers complaint.
That is all.


It was yourself who raised the matter on the forum. You suspected a brothel in an apartment? My news really was that a group of people have been praying for you. They had a similar problem.

A few suggestions were made but you were banned from Cath Info. I wasn't able to relate the news to you.

My point really is I did try and help your case.

I have no quarrel with you.  I will certainly pray for you and no, I don't watch the programme you refer to.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
To bring the thread back on topic and perhaps a mindless ramble but about 40-50 people turned up last Friday in Galway. Nobody disputes the points soulguard makes about doctrine but has missed the point. It was mainly young people who turned up and some families with children. Friends of mine organised it.

The thread is relevant because a few girls are promoting a particular video so I linked the thread.

Attacking me is uncalled for.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 04:38:28 PM
Quote from: soulguard
Quote from: John Grace
Quote from: soulguard
Quote from: John Grace
Quote from: soulguard
John grace... Most mysterious revolution leader of all time...

MYSTERIOUS!

Mysterious.

You watch "the outer limits"?


This is rather uncalled for.


As much as your 4,384 posts?

My single comment < 4,384 mindless ramblings.


Any particular reason for this attack? Based on an earlier attack and you not being on the forum, I wasn't able to relate news to you. It matters little now.


What news? Why assume people know what you are talking about?

I have never met any resistance and never heard of them before I came to this forum. I am here a good while and still don't know much about them.
I am a Catholic who prefers the latin mass, hence I am a customer for any movement or latin mass.
Consider this a customers complaint.
That is all.


The thread though is about abortion and the hospitals and how various groups are calling on people to take action.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 04:49:30 PM
Last night for example, some of those involved in the protest on Friday were involved in showing the film 'Cristiada' (For Greater Glory) to university students. Such an initiative keeps people Catholic.

With the greatest respect to soulguard, I do know what I am talking about. A friend of mine supplied the DVD. They want to share the faith.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: John Grace on November 26, 2013, 04:51:28 PM
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Why would there be anything wrong with what John is suggesting?

It was recently decreed in their country that abortion (an illegal murderous practice) is "legal." If he wants to be in his own country, and combat that, GREAT FOR HIM!

An illegal law, is no law. So he's MORE than free to do that. If people cow, like they have in the US, and don't FIGHT THIS TOOTH AND NAIL right away, people will become apathetic to it, and won't do anything when Ireland adds to the already astounding number of 43,000,000 babies aborted every year.

 :facepalm:

Can't believe anyone would be opposed to what he's suggesting.


Many thanks. A point I was trying to make is people are prepared for combat. Countering the apathy is key. The politician and abortionist will be punished later.
Title: Abortion in Irish hospitals!
Post by: Frances on November 26, 2013, 06:17:27 PM
 :really-mad2:Yes, Catholics in Ireland need to be vocal.  For the US, it's four decades too late.  Now I'm forced to purchase an unusable high deductible health plan that gives contraception, std testing, and sɛҳuąƖ/gender orientation counseling for free, abortions for a pittance, but for everything else, my monthly salary is reduced by 5%.  It's a disgrace that I now qualify not for reduced priced healthcare, but for food stamps.  I was told to go sign up for them by December 15.  Nothing doing!  If I get them, the government starts to dictate the value of the car I drive, where I may buy food, which foods I may buy, and they keep tabs on my activities.  So it's off to the Protestant food pantry down the block where they give out groceries, no questions asked.  I have to lose weight, anyway!