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Re: A Second Look
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2019, 11:07:18 PM »
Even without details, one can imagine this woman’s recurring pain; one can speculate that she was not the only victim; one can wonder what else was locked into secrecy or denial in a very different era. But all these unknowns from the first half of the twentieth century seem well beyond the bounds of what presents itself as a rigorous legal investigation.      
Is this example exceptional? Yes, but not unique. One can say the same of some examples the report spotlights.
In fact, one could find similar examples where the investigation’s span of more than seven decades—and gaps of half a century between likely abuse and the first word of it to reach church officials—raise questions about the report’s concept of accountability.
But the report’s chosen timespan and unexplained notion of accountability are merely symptoms of a larger issue. What is missing from the report, above all, is any sense of history. The report treats the more than seven decades from 1945 until yesterday as a block. That is a long time in the life of even the most basic institutions. Could you inquire into family breakdown since 1945 or patterns of sɛҳuąƖ activity over that timespan without giving considerable attention to demography, single parenthood, feminism, contraceptives, the “Sixties,” gαy rights, and changing norms regarding autonomy, privacy, and personal fulfillment? Or, for another instance, race relations? Could you accurately describe the period from World War II to yesterday without highlighting the civil-rights movement, the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Acts, and the election of Barack Obama?


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Re: A Second Look
« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2019, 03:35:26 PM »
This latest incarnation of the accusations hurled at the Novus Ordo Church reeks of a political stunt.  I think this is a means by the politically influential to box the Novus Ordo Church into a defensive position and a cornered one at that.  These Novus Ordo clerics have been doing the bidding of the enemy since the end of Vatican II so it shows to us, although never figured out by evildoers, is that you can't team up with evil because once it no longer needs your support it discards you.

I don't engage in defense of the Novus Ordo but this latest much publicized storytelling is a planned event for either political expediency (we did see a sitting governor in one large state further liberalize abortion laws and a different sitting governor give what seemed to be approval for infanticide (although he was clear about making the baby comfortable - just what the world needs, merciful executioners).  With the Novus Ordo chasing after every fad that comes it's way, it just isn't capable of leading the flock, at least not leading the flock anywhere good. 



Re: A Second Look
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2019, 12:03:25 AM »
This latest incarnation of the accusations hurled at the Novus Ordo Church reeks of a political stunt.  I think this is a means by the politically influential to box the Novus Ordo Church into a defensive position and a cornered one at that.  These Novus Ordo clerics have been doing the bidding of the enemy since the end of Vatican II so it shows to us, although never figured out by evildoers, is that you can't team up with evil because once it no longer needs your support it discards you.

I don't engage in defense of the Novus Ordo but this latest much publicized storytelling is a planned event for either political expediency (we did see a sitting governor in one large state further liberalize abortion laws and a different sitting governor give what seemed to be approval for infanticide (although he was clear about making the baby comfortable - just what the world needs, merciful executioners).  With the Novus Ordo chasing after every fad that comes it's way, it just isn't capable of leading the flock, at least not leading the flock anywhere good.
I think it is a prelude to a persecution.

Re: A Second Look
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2019, 12:05:07 AM »
My own first encounter with sɛҳuąƖ abuse came when I had just turned seventeen. I was working at a Boy Scout camp and discovered and managed to inform higher-ups that a camp official was abusing fourteen-year-old “trainees.” He was fired, and that was that. But of course it wasn’t. A school teacher, he moved to another state where, through an extraordinary coincidence, I learned years later that he continued to molest. That experience in the summer of 1958 sensitized me to the radical and welcome changes in societal responses to sɛҳuąƖ abuse since the hush-hush attitudes that then prevailed among parents, victims, health care professionals, and law enforcement officials as well as Boy Scout authorities. It took time to recognize that child molestation, once portrayed as a threat from lurking strangers in raincoats, could be the work of family friends, doting uncles, Scoutmasters, physicians, fathers and stepfathers, or even an admired clergyman. It took even longer for therapists, judges, and legislatures to decide what to do about it.
As for Catholicism, the Second Vatican Council, along with major social changes, disrupted the church and the shame and silence imposed by its deferential culture. Jogged by lawsuits and publicity and the very fact of increasing instances of abuse, bishops’ responses began to change, belatedly but significantly, in the late 1980s to mid-1990s. Attitudes took a definitive turn in 2002 with the bishops’ adoption of the Charter for the Protection of Children and Young People, passed in the wake of the Boston Globe’s revelations. Even sex abuse by priests has a history. If we are to believe the findings of the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, it increased in the latter 1960s, spiked in the ’70s, and declined in the ’80s.


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Offline Capt McQuigg

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Re: A Second Look
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2019, 10:52:39 AM »
Don't overlook the fact that the Novus Ordo Church is a proverbial cash cow for the leftists in the U.S.  In addition to donations to leftwing causes (organizations that would, pre-Vatican II, be considered enemies of the Chuch) these faux-outrages usually lead to very large cash settlements that go directly to either the State (which in America circa 2019 is a force for evil) or leftist trial lawyers and anti-Catholic advocacy groups. 

Billions in dollars exchanged between the Novus Ordo Church and the same group of enemies in that last go around (2002-2005). 

One clear sign that these charges are all manufactured is the complete lack of any demand for evidence from the press.  The charges are just assumed to be true and the Novus Ordo is assumed to be guilty. 

It's such a simple fix.  Any seminarian who shows any signs of sɛҳuąƖ depravity should be screened out.  But I think it's pretty common knowledge that the Novus Ordo seminaries are only screening out Traditionalists.

Here's a good question:  Why are these charges being recycled?  There is certainly no new evidence.  What's the reason?