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The Traditional Latin Mass Catholic Survey-What Traditional Catholics Believe

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https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2019/02/lex-orandi-lex-credendi-traditional.html#more

Lex Orandi Lex Credendi - The Traditional Latin Mass Catholic Survey - what Traditional Catholics believe

by Fr. Donald Kloster

St. Mary's Catholic Church

Norwalk, Connecticut, USA


Contributors: 

Sha Balizet Fisher, PhD (Statistics consulting) -  Mr. Brian Williams liturgyguy.com (Consultant)  Mrs. Christine Boyle (Webmaster)

Introduction

Through more than twenty years of offering both the Novus Ordo Mass (NOM) and the Traditional Latin Mass (TLM), this writer has observed variations between the people attending the two different Masses within the Roman Rite.  American Catholics attending the NOM have been surveyed repeatedly in terms of their beliefs and practices (Pew Research and Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate or Georgetown University's CARA).

Yet, the body of research does not appear to include a description of Catholics who attend the TLM.  These Catholics attend at least 489 Sunday Masses nationwide (latinmassdir.org 2019).  On any given Sunday, an estimated 100,000 Catholics (on average over 200 faithful per Mass and/or parish) in the United States of America worship according to the ancient Mass that, prior to the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965), was offered in Latin for more than 1900 years.

The quickly growing number of TLM only parishes permits survey research going beyond one individual's observations.  The objective of this pilot study was to measure the fruit of the two Masses, by directly comparing the TLM and NOM attendees' responses to the same questions. 


Method

The survey consisted of seven questions on the beliefs and attitudes of the respondents.  The surveys conducted were anonymous and had unique responses.  In pew surveys were administered to 1251-1322 responders according to the given question.  The same survey, administered online, received 451 responses.

In Pew Survey Respondents

Arizona, California, Colorado, New Hampshire, Texas

Online Survey Respondents

Connecticut, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, 
Pennsylvania, New York, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia

The TLM Survey was conducted to parallel questions posed in previous research, allowing a direct comparison between the TLM attendees and those of the NOM.  These were the topics:

1. Approval of contraception
2. Approval of abortion
3. Weekly Mass attendance
4. Approval of same sex marriage
5. Percentage of income donated
6. Annual Confession among weekly Mass attendees
7. Fertility Rate

Results

Survey Question                        TLM       TLM samples         NOM        Data Source

1. Approve contraception             2%            1,773                   89%         Pew Research 2016 (Sept 28)
2. Approve abortion                      1%            1,769                   51%         Pew Research 2018 (Oct 15)
3. Weekly Mass attendance        99%            1,763                   22%         CARA 2017 (Apr 11, 2018)
4. Approve gay marriage               2%            1,759                   67%         Daily Wire (July 2, 2017)
5. Income % donated                    6%            1,702                  1.2%         Catholicphilly.com  (May 17, 2013)
                                                               Protestants                   2.5%        Relevant Magazine (March 8, 2016)
              All Christians during the Great Depression                   3.3%         Relevant Magazine (March 8, 2016)
6. Annual Confession
    and Weekly Mass                     98%            1,753                   25%         CARA 2014 (Feb 16)
7. Fertility Rate                             6.0               1,085*                  2.3           Pew Research 2015 (May 12)

*This question was directed to women only.

Analysis

Modern society, by popular belief, is the cause of decreasing sacramental participation in the Catholic Church.  However, the present survey, compared with other data, reveals a striking variance between Catholics attending the TLM versus those who attend the NOM.  These differences are noticeably evident when comparing beliefs, church attendance, monetary generosity, and fertility rates.

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Re: The Traditional Latin Mass Survey-What Traditional Catholics Believe
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2019, 06:41:16 PM »
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  • I an a senior citizen.  In 1960 when we had only the Latin Mass in all Roman Rite Catholic Churches, the results of this
    survey would mirror of the polling results of Traditional Catholics in 2016-2018.  
    I remember in a religion class that the Teaching Nun said the more grace is in your soul, the more you understand
    the Mass.


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    Re: The Traditional Latin Mass Survey-What Traditional Catholics Believe
    « Reply #2 on: March 09, 2019, 08:54:45 PM »
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  • First, thank you for posting this survey.  
    Second, the idea that the more grace is in your soul the more you understand the mass brings me great joy. It seems to me, a relatively recent convert, that I understand more and more of the mass with (almost) each passing week. 

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    « Reply #3 on: March 10, 2019, 12:39:06 AM »
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  • So, what it says is that Catholics believe in the Catholic religion.
    8) 8) 8)

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    « Reply #4 on: March 10, 2019, 08:38:34 PM »
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  • So, what it says is that Catholics believe in the Catholic religion.
    8) 8) 8)

    Not the NOM attendees, since they by majority believe in Abortion, contraceptives, and gay marriages.
    Most of the NOM attendees  what are called "cafeteria Catholics" and many rejecting Catholic Teachings.


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  • I was referring to the TLM atendees.

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    Re: The Traditional Latin Mass Survey-What Traditional Catholics Believe
    « Reply #6 on: March 14, 2019, 07:19:59 PM »
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  • 1. "Importantly, TLM families have a nearly 60% larger family size."

    Faulty math. TLM families have a more than 250% larger family size, not 60% larger. (6.0 children vs 2.3 children)

    2. "Finally, how well does the TLM retain young adults once they leave their parent's homes?   Rigorous study on these topics are planned for 2019-2020."



     

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