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Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2025, 07:43:29 PM »
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  • Very interesting!

    In the four volume set of books titled, “The Mystical City of God”, written by Venerable Maria de Agreda, the Blessed Virgin states that her substance is in the Holy Eucharist too.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #2 on: August 08, 2025, 02:34:09 PM »
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  • Science finally caught up to TRUTH !
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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #3 on: August 09, 2025, 01:40:30 AM »
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  • E rev around S :popcorn:
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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #4 on: August 09, 2025, 10:09:40 AM »
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  • Unless all these miracles involve hosts from the Traditional Latin Mass, offered by a priest ordained in the pre-Vatican II rite by a bishop who was consecrated in the traditional rite, this seriously calls into doubt the idea that the Novus Ordo is not a valid Eucharistic sacrifice, and calls into doubt the idea that the new rites of ordination and/or consecration are per se invalid.

    Just saying.


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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #5 on: August 09, 2025, 11:21:14 AM »
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  • Unless all these miracles involve hosts from the Traditional Latin Mass, offered by a priest ordained in the pre-Vatican II rite by a bishop who was consecrated in the traditional rite, this seriously calls into doubt the idea that the Novus Ordo is not a valid Eucharistic sacrifice, and calls into doubt the idea that the new rites of ordination and/or consecration are per se invalid.

    Just saying.
    Incredible! All these Eucharistic Miracles do indeed support the case that the New Rite Masses are valid. And by extension, the New Rite priests of these Masses are valid. The miracle of the 'X' only chromosome proves they are one and the same miracle: the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ.

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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #6 on: August 09, 2025, 11:52:44 AM »
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  • It’s not 0% valid or 100% valid.  This is not an either-or / all or none scenario.  Good golly, guys, your logic is horrible.  :facepalm:

    The amount of variables associated with the new rites is HUGE.  NOBODY EVER SAID THAT ALL NEW RITES ARE INVALID.  We're saying we don’t know which ones are valid.   And you don’t know either.  

    And if you’re trying to argue that it’s all or none, then you’re a simpleton and have no business discussing theology.  

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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #7 on: August 09, 2025, 12:02:45 PM »
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  • Incredible! All these Eucharistic Miracles do indeed support the case that the New Rite Masses are valid. And by extension, the New Rite priests of these Masses are valid. The miracle of the 'X' only chromosome proves they are one and the same miracle: the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ.

    Why would you not seek evidence of these claims before jumping to such conclusions? Don't you realize that the deceivers will lie about these things?

    On the other hand, we have a confirmed stigmatist, Marie-Julie Jahenny, warning, at the end of the Nineteenth Century that a "Second Celebration" would be introduced in the Roman Catholic Church what would contain "words from the abyss."


    Ecstasy July 21, 1881

    "The Church will suffer the most cruel persecutions which hell has never yet invented.

    "Soon, in large parts of this land of the dead, there will be no sanctuaries. The apostles will have fled. The holy souls weep over the ruins and abandonment; See how much they insult Me and how much they offend Me ... There will be a relentless hellish (attack) against the devotion to the Sacred Heart. "

    "There will be a book of the 'second celebration' by the infamous spirits who have crucified Me anew and who await the reign of a new Messiah to make them happy. Many holy priests will refuse this book sealed with the words of the abyss, but unfortunately there are those who will accept it, and it will be used."

    "The Bishops betray. They will give their strength and their life to the fatal government."

    "Today, I, Creator, God, I lose all the authority of My Powers. Today, I am the most despised and regarded as the most incapable of men."

    "In a short time, on the threatened earth that is no longer strong, because the blasphemies that have shaken it, the iniquities and crimes have separated it piece by piece, in a short time on French soil, I will no longer be recognized; My adorable dignity will be desecrated. They will (do more to Me than on the day of My Passion); (then) they had given Me nothing but a scarlet robe. Before the century is over, long before, they will have covered Me in all sorts of insults. The religion that I had established, the Gospel that I preached, all this, they will tear apart under an appalling form, to make trembling, and they will throw all these infamous things on My shoulders and all over My Adorable Body. They will change My sufferings and My grief of My Passion, in writings that will shake the heart of the righteous and their peaks will crack pain, as the mountain, on the day of My Crucifixion. Before the year which bears a figure of consolation to My French people, before that epoch is sounded, the holy sacrifices of the altars will have taken an infernal form."

    "In the streets, in cities, in the countryside and in all villages, the infectious poison of those cursed books will spread with an immensity and with a rapidity hotter than the sun's path, from sunrise to sunset."


    Ecstasy date November 27, 1901. (NOTE: Other sources say this prophecy was given in 1902)

    Our Lord to Marie-Julie Jahenny:

    “I give you a warning even today. The disciples who are not of My Holy Gospel are now in a great work of the mind to form as the second facsimiles when they will make to their idea and under the influence of the enemy of souls, a Mass that contains words odious in My sight.

    When the fatal hour arrives when they will put to the test the Faith of My eternal priesthood, it is these sheets that they will give to celebrate in this last period. The first period, it is that of My priesthood which exists since (or after) Me. The second, is the period of persecution when the enemies of the Faith and of Holy Religion have formulated - and they are strongly enforced - these sheets as the book of the second celebration, these infamous spirits (or, infamous minds) are those who crucified Me and who are waiting for the reign of the new Messiah to make them happy."

    "Many of My holy priests will refuse this book sealed with the words of the abyss. Unfortunately, (they) will be the exception, it will be used."


    On May 10, 1904, Our Lady describes the new clergy and its liturgy: 

    "They will not stop on this hateful and sacrilegious road. They will go further to compromise all at once, and in one blow, the Holy Church, the clergy, and the Faith of my children." 

    She announces the "dispersion of the pastors" by the Church herself; true pastors, who will be replaced by others formed by Hell: "...new preachers of new sacraments, new temples, new baptisms, new confraternities." 


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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #8 on: August 09, 2025, 02:43:11 PM »
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  • Unless all these miracles involve hosts from the Traditional Latin Mass, offered by a priest ordained in the pre-Vatican II rite by a bishop who was consecrated in the traditional rite, this seriously calls into doubt the idea that the Novus Ordo is not a valid Eucharistic sacrifice, and calls into doubt the idea that the new rites of ordination and/or consecration are per se invalid.

    Just saying.
    Could not the Hosts be consecrated during a NO mess by a valid priest pronouncing the valid words of consecration?
    What you describe is what we all hope for but is it possible?
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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #9 on: August 09, 2025, 03:10:50 PM »
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  • https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKxlqY-Tx5U/?igsh=MWs1Zmtrdndlb3YzNQ==
    I saw the other comments before actually clicking the link...

    Wow!  Only an "X" chromosome!  That is amazing and profound!  Thank you so much for sharing! 
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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #10 on: August 09, 2025, 04:24:13 PM »
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  • For those who are more scholarly

    https://philarchive.org/archive/BUCFPT-4
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"


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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #11 on: August 09, 2025, 05:06:45 PM »
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  • Incredible! All these Eucharistic Miracles do indeed support the case that the New Rite Masses are valid. And by extension, the New Rite priests of these Masses are valid. The miracle of the 'X' only chromosome proves they are one and the same miracle: the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ.
    Not necessarily.

    Playing "devils advocate" here.

    We know the devil can't create anything.
    We know the devil can duplicate anything.
    At Lourdes the devil duplicated apparitions of Mary seven times, but the church caught him.  He's done this in other locations also over the years.
    It would be an easy feat for the devil to duplicate human blood type AB+, heart tissue, with only the X chromosome.  This lone X chromosome though would not be the result of the Heavenly Father's participation, but his.  Or all he had to do was duplicate the test results from the original Luciano miracle.
    Thus he could truly deceive people about the validity of all things Vat II.
    Below is the full video from which the original post (starting at 38:17) was taken and heavily edited.
    Something to think about.  If I'm out to lunch please redirect me.


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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #12 on: August 09, 2025, 05:22:40 PM »
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  • Incredible! All these Eucharistic Miracles do indeed support the case that the New Rite Masses are valid. And by extension, the New Rite priests of these Masses are valid. The miracle of the 'X' only chromosome proves they are one and the same miracle: the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ.
    This is false. Church teaching states that if any private revelation or miracle contradicts Catholic teaching in the slightest degree then it is a false miracle that comes from the devil.

    Since the new rites have a POSITIVE doubt these miracles are fake and come from the devil. He has been allowed to do this to keep bad willed weak ignorant 'Catholics' with little to no faith in the false vatican 2 religion.

    It is very easy for the devil to fool human instruments.

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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #13 on: August 09, 2025, 06:29:27 PM »
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  • I also found this article 

    https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/exaggerations-and-eucharistic-miracles

    Interesting that some bacteria can test like AB antigens in blood.
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    Re: A scientific Eucharistic miracle to rejoice about
    « Reply #14 on: August 09, 2025, 07:14:04 PM »
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  • Borat, the Modernist troll, continuing the apologetic for the Novus Ordo sect.  Shocking.

    As others have pointed out, the Catholic attitude is that we don't shape our doctrine and theology in response to "miracles", but judge purported "miracles" by theology.  It's one of the FIRST thing the Church does in making a judgemt about such phenomena, holding it up to the light of Catholic doctrine.  If it fails there, you don't pass Go.

    Several of these incontrovertible "miracles" were later demonstrated to have been bacteria and/or fungus.  You'll notice the nearly identical story in the two different Polish ones, where a host had been dropped on the ground, and then reserved somewhere, and then some time later there was some red discoloration found on it.  OK, when there's fungus and bacteria in your environment, dropping a host on the floor would contaminate it.  Speaking of mowing lawns (which Borat made a big production about doing in a skirt), you can see at certain times of the year (at least in my part of the country), that you'll see this red dust, a red fungus coating your lawn mower, and even your shoes, and quite possibly Borat's skirt.

    But EVEN THEN, even IF these could be established with scientific certainty (they have not), it would be childsplay for a demon to simulate a miracle ... where all he'd have to do is to grab a sample of blood or tissue and apply it to to the host, perhaps swap out a bit of the bread.  Piece of cake for a demon.

    Now, let's say the NOM is invalid.  Well, if I'm the devil, then I want to convince as many people as I can that it's valid.  How do I go about that?  Well, this would be one very effective way to do that ... as even Bishop Willaimson ended up being fooled by this nonsense.