Author Topic: A question about girls wearing T-shirts? (Read 14347 times)

Tiffany · « **Reply #60 on:** May 18, 2013, 06:42:45 PM »

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Speaking of being woman-panderers --

TIFFANY! WHERE ARE YOU! PLEASE CHIME IN ON THIS THREAD, PLEASE!~

very nice Matthew

I don't mind Telesphorus having a friend, but he's a hypocrite. When I happen to agree with some female posters, I'm pandering to women.

When he has some women on his side, "it's totally different".

There should be little difference in our standards for things modest dress and appropriate behavior. It should not matter if we are BFF since elementary school or don't speak the same language.

Matthew · « **Reply #61 on:** May 18, 2013, 06:44:17 PM »

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The view of t-shirts as being underwear and vulgar for outer wear is definitely rooted in a subjective preference for an era rather than a true aspect of the Faith or Catholic tradition.

No, it's rooted in the design and use of t-shirts. They are designed to be utilitarian, informal, unisex. Catholic common sense needs to be applied, and while different times have different ideas of fashion, there is no doubt that t-shirts are slack.

Yes there is a doubt. You aren't very good at being objective, or rising above the culture you grew up in.

A T-shirt is just a piece of cotton fabric sewn to cover one's upper torso. When properly sized, they happen to conceal the various "details" of anatomy, so they certainly pass Catholic muster when it comes to morality, modesty, and decency.

If you can still see that a woman is wearing that shirt (as opposed to a man), GUESS WHAT? All women on earth aren't going to go out tomorrow and get double-mastectomies just so you can stop being tempted.

You're telling me that a buxom woman in a dress has no visible "bumps"? Give me a break.

If a woman is wearing proper...ahem...garments... and wearing a loose-fitting T-shirt, there's nothing that can be more concealing except maybe a burqa. I'm actually serious, not facetious.

If you still can't stop thinking about what's under that pile of clothes, again, I feel sorry for you, and I pray you find a spouse so your temptations can end. It has to be rough being 36, unmarried, and WANTING to be married for years on end.

brainglitch · « **Reply #62 on:** May 18, 2013, 06:55:03 PM »

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This thread is one of the funniest things I have read in a long, long time.

Threads like these are the reason why every time I look at Cathinfo I can't help but think of all of the old ugly Pharisees from The Passion of the Christ.

So I take it you think t-shirts on women and coed sports are fine, but you are the same one who denies that St. Mary's is liberalizing.

They weren't fine for our ancestors.

You're part of the cult group that says that Vatican II enlightens Catholic Tradition and that the New Mass was legitimately promulgated, while its leaders within a few months say the New Mass is evil and speak against Vatican II.

You're a mind-numbed cultist looking for an excuse to smear Catholics as pharisees for not approving post-Vatican II slackness in dress.

You can't even admit flagrant dishonesty staring you in the face, that's how members of the cult operate. They're proud of being willfully blind.

And if it means smearing someone else as a pharisee for believing in traditional standards of decorum, in order to cover up for the cult, you do it in a heart beat.

No Tele, I am not in favor of coed sports.

But I agree with Matthew that modest T-shirts are not a problem.

The rest of your post is mere personal attack.

And my remarks about Pharisees was not directed at you personally. It's what I see as the pervasive attitude on Cathinfo.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #63 on:** May 18, 2013, 06:57:27 PM »

There is a doubt that t-shirts are slack?

So you would wear a t-shirt to church?

In company other than family?

So, there is no doubt there is some degree of slackness in t-shirts.

So then the question becomes, what is the justification for wearing these slack unisex clothes?

Why weren't they normal in the past? Why are they normal now?

I don't say t-shirts are necessarily sinful to wear, but there is good reason to be against them.

The overreaction my comments are getting has nothing to do with objectivity.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #64 on:** May 18, 2013, 06:59:30 PM »

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When he has some women on his side, "it's totally different".

They're the minority, and they're on my side because I very seldom try to please women, and they know it.

Tiffany · « **Reply #65 on:** May 18, 2013, 07:01:23 PM »

Yes I'm sure all the mothers, sisters, Aunts, older cousins, friends of the family helped make sure young ladies looked and acted like young ladies for centuries because they were dealing with temptations..how ridiculous to make that attack on someone because they have a sense of decency and chastity.

jen51 · « **Reply #66 on:** May 18, 2013, 07:10:47 PM »

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I can't think of any trad girl I know who wouldn't wear a jean skirt and t-shirt to a casual afternoon like that.

Yeah I do this quite a bit, especially while working outside or doing something inside like painting.I'd also agree with you that t-shirts are so varied nowadays. The one I wore yesterday didn't look manly at all. It had flowers on it.

wallflower · « **Reply #67 on:** May 18, 2013, 07:13:44 PM »

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Yes I'm sure all the mothers, sisters, Aunts, older cousins, friends of the family helped make sure young ladies looked and acted like young ladies for centuries because they were dealing with temptations..how ridiculous to make that attack on someone because they have a sense of decency and chastity.

I don't think Matthew's attack is based on Tele having a sense of decency. It's based on Tele's inability to consider or separate what's decent and modest from his own personal preference. T-shirts are casual. This is not the same thing as slack or slovenly. You can still very, very easily make sure young ladies look and act like young ladies -- in t-shirts. It's just for more informal situations, that's all.

Tiffany · « **Reply #68 on:** May 18, 2013, 07:20:49 PM »

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Friends of mine live on a farm. They have animals and plants of every kind. -) The girls only wear dresses. They have home/work dresses, going out for errands dresses, and church dresses.
Their home dresses, sweaters, and jackets are very worn. It's not about dressing extremely attractive all the time.

So what does it matter if a woman dresses-down while at home?

A T-shirt isn't immodest; that's all there is to it.

Do you never wear T-shirts, Tiffany?

When I do wear one, it's only with a jacket over it, it's not appropriate just to wear one around my child.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #69 on:** May 18, 2013, 07:29:36 PM »

To wear a t-shirt is to give the impression of being less than fully dressed.

Nadir · « **Reply #70 on:** May 18, 2013, 08:20:59 PM »

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To wear a t-shirt is to give the impression of being less than fully dressed.

You can dress them up with a pretty scarf.

Roland Deschain · « **Reply #71 on:** May 18, 2013, 08:31:24 PM »

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Have I banned too many liberals from CathInfo? -- you seem to be itching to have a few around to argue with. You're even starting to snipe at your own side.

That's because the only thing that seems to make Tele happy is looking down from his righteous perch upon those whom he deems not as holy, traditional, anti-liberal/feminist as himself......in other words.....everybody.

Bitter, angry people are only happy when they are fighting with others.

Angel9 · « **Reply #72 on:** May 18, 2013, 08:44:55 PM »

You all keep saying as long as the T-shirt is modest
is there such a thing as a immodest T-shirt, unless you cut of the sleeves and half way down your side like some people.

Matthew · « **Reply #73 on:** May 18, 2013, 08:48:49 PM »

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When he has some women on his side, "it's totally different".

They're the minority, and they're on my side because I very seldom try to please women, and they know it.

In other words, they should feel special :)

Telesphorus · « **Reply #74 on:** May 18, 2013, 08:55:37 PM »

No, they just know that I'm right and that I'm not being confrontational for the purpose of scoring points or trying to make someone else look bad.

I don't think much of wearing t-shirts as outerware. It's called having minimal standards.

Those who see it as an opportunity to use the typical feminist style arguments that are used about pants or any other issue like this need to take a step back and look at what they're really doing.

Defending traditional standards of decorum ---> being compared to a Muslim.

That's among trads.