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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: Fifteen Decades Daily on March 25, 2023, 07:45:13 AM

Title: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: Fifteen Decades Daily on March 25, 2023, 07:45:13 AM
If you guessed that California or New York would be on the list of states permitting abortion with no restrictions and no questions asked, you would be wrong.

According to a recent publication from 40 Days for Life, the Hall of Shame states are:

Alaska
Colorado
New Mexico
New Jersey
Oregon
Vermont

Putting this out there on the Feast of the Annunciation, begging Our Lady's intercession for our poor country.
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: Ladislaus on March 25, 2023, 09:33:22 AM
Alasaka surprises me as I thought it was supposed to be a relatively conservative state, often voting "Red".

This is why, as I mentioned, Dobbs v. Jackson, was actually a disaster for Pro Life.  SCOTUS ruled that states have the right to legalize abortion as much as they want, and these cannot be restricted by federal law.  This is the nasty corollary to that disasterous decision.  Ruling should have declared that by all known scientific standards, a fertilized embryo is a human life, not part of the mother's body, but having unique DNA, and is protected by the unalienable Right to Life.  This decision was effectively declaring that states have the right to legalize murder.  Euthanasia to follow on this ruling.

In Ohio, prior to Dobbs, the state tried several times to fully outlaw abortion.  Since Dobbs, we haven't heard a peep out of the state legislature when the path has been cleared for them to completely ban abortion.
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: Ladislaus on March 25, 2023, 09:39:38 AM
Here's the tremendous impact of Dobbs --
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Researchers estimated that in April 2022, before the decision, clinicians carried out a total of 85,020 abortions across the country. However, that total fell to 79,620 abortions in August 2022 ... marking a decrease in the national abortion rate from 14 per 1,000 women of reproductive age in April to 13 per 1,000 women in August.

And you can be very sure that of these 6,000 fewer abortions (with 79,600 still taking place), the vast majority of them were just more careful to have a good stock of morning-after pills (which are undocuмented abortion) or more careful to use contraception.  This does not translate into 6,000 more children being born by any stretch.
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: Mithrandylan on March 25, 2023, 10:56:17 AM
You forgot Minnesota. 
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: 2Vermont on March 25, 2023, 11:18:05 AM
Vermont!? Say it isn't so! :laugh1:
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: SimpleMan on March 25, 2023, 11:41:44 AM
Vermont!? Say it isn't so! :laugh1:

Vermont is a weird state, basically all rural (Burlington is just a large town, not a city), conservative in some ways (gun rights are about as good there as you get anywhere), but capable of very liberal legislation.  It is the West Virginia of New England without the crushing poverty and the religious fundamentalism.
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: Fifteen Decades Daily on March 25, 2023, 04:24:55 PM
You forgot Minnesota.
Thank you for the correction. I was using a chart from 40 Days for Life, so evidently their data is incorrect.
Sorry to hear about Minnesota.
I'm in New Jersey.
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: josefamenendez on March 25, 2023, 04:28:02 PM
Vermont is full of rich New York progressives. The home of Bernie Sanders
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: josefamenendez on March 25, 2023, 04:34:51 PM
"In Ohio, prior to Dobbs, the state tried several times to fully outlaw abortion.  Since Dobbs, we haven't heard a peep out of the state legislature when the path has been cleared for them to completely ban abortion."


Before Roe went down, the insincere legislatures knew that even if a pro-life law was passed and signed by the Governor, it would be "successfully" blocked in the courts by a pro-abort challenge. Now that they could actually make abortion illegal in the state, they really don't want to go there and be held accountable for it. Pennsylvania works the same way.
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: Plenus Venter on March 26, 2023, 04:44:47 AM
Sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance.
I just read about the lives lost in the devastating tornado that ripped through New Mexico.
Kyrie eleison!
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: 2Vermont on March 26, 2023, 07:24:42 AM
Vermont is full of rich New York progressives. The home of Bernie Sanders
They primarily live in one county.  However, the other counties are still predominantly blue. 

If I'm remembering correctly, in recent elections most counties were consistently 1/3 to 2/3 or 1/4 to 3/4 voting results in favor of blue. I think it was only the far northeast kingdom/east that ended up red.  

I think blue has bled into even the "rural" areas or areas that have quite a bit of rural.  It's been a long time now since this state has been red.

Voting here is beyond frustrating.
Title: Re: 6 States w Unrestricted Access to Abortion
Post by: Fifteen Decades Daily on March 28, 2023, 02:52:00 PM
If we had a contest "Whose Governor is the Most Evil" I'd have to spot everyone 10 points to make it fair.

New Jersey's Gov. Phil Murphy calls himself a devout Catholic. (http://newjerseymonitor.com/2022/01/13/murphy-signs-law-solidifying-abortion-rights-in-new-jersey/) Article is from January of last year.

That weird rumbling sound in the atmosphere here is his Irish ancestors rolling in their graves.

His conversion is one of my daily rosary intentions.