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Offline Stubborn

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Re: 50 Killed During Mass
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2022, 03:47:46 PM »
Quote from: epiphany on June 05, 2022, 02:58:15 PM
Each a martyr?
The picture is that of a NO table, the article said "The attack occurred during the Sunday Eucharist" so it seems improbable that it happened at the true Mass, which is to say that it is very likely the sacrilegious practice of communion in the hand was going on at a NO service at the time of the attack.

I always thought being told as a kid that we don't want to get caught dead in a NO was only a figure of speech, so I might be mistaken, but I do not see how we can say that they are martyrs.
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: 50 Killed During Mass
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2022, 03:50:04 PM »
According to this report, the incident started inside the church in order to make people flee, and then they were gunned down once they exited the church by militants who were waiting:

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Offline Nadir

Re: 50 Killed During Mass
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2022, 06:57:09 PM »
Quote from: epiphany on June 05, 2022, 02:58:15 PM
Each a martyr?
No! More is usually required to impute martyrdom than being shot during Mass.
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Offline epiphany

Re: 50 Killed During Mass
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2022, 07:43:53 PM »
Quote from: Stubborn on June 05, 2022, 03:47:46 PM
The picture is that of a NO table, the article said "The attack occurred during the Sunday Eucharist" so it seems improbable that it happened at the true Mass, which is to say that it is very likely the sacrilegious practice of communion in the hand was going on at a NO service at the time of the attack.

I always thought being told as a kid that we don't want to get caught dead in a NO was only a figure of speech, so I might be mistaken, but I do not see how we can say that they are martyrs.
I see there is no sanctuary lamp, so probably no real presence:
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Offline SimpleMan

Re: 50 Killed During Mass
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2022, 07:52:37 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous on June 05, 2022, 02:23:53 PM
Now there's a church that needed an armed Usher's training program.



 
But... but... but...  the rest of the world is always lecturing us, and tut-tutting us, for allowing responsible gun owners to bear arms for self-defense.  

I suppose, in their minds, when someone has you at gunpoint, you're just supposed to accept that your life has come to an end.

This is one reason that, as long as there are gun rights, I do not plan ever to leave the United States to live somewhere else.  (I almost did in my thirties.)  Flawed as this country is, as bogus as its founding was, it is the only country in the world where, according to its own Constitution, bearing arms is an a priori unalienable right.  There are also some states I would not live in either.
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