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Traditional Catholic Faith => Catholic Living in the Modern World => Topic started by: SeanJohnson on June 05, 2022, 01:08:03 PM

Title: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: SeanJohnson on June 05, 2022, 01:08:03 PM
FIFTY Dead in Catholic Church
https://gloria.tv/post/xQdwF8qtjpL43m7aPHvE87zbL 

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Bandits killed over 50 persons in an attack on St. Francis Church in Owo, Southern Nigeria (TheNationOnlineEng.net, June 5).

Apart from worshippers, the bandits also killed passerby hit by stray bullets. The attack occurred during the Sunday Eucharist.

The witnesses said the gunmen stormed the church during service and started shooting. Explosives were also detonated by the gunmen inside premises of the church.

#newsKkbeqzefev (https://gloria.tv/hashtag/newsKkbeqzefev)
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: DigitalLogos on June 05, 2022, 01:54:53 PM
Terrible. :facepalm:
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: Incredulous on June 05, 2022, 02:23:53 PM

Now there's a church that needed an armed Usher's training program.


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Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: epiphany on June 05, 2022, 02:58:15 PM
FIFTY Dead in Catholic Church
https://gloria.tv/post/xQdwF8qtjpL43m7aPHvE87zbL

(https://assistant.gloria.tv/FxK6pqhk7ZiS1AZwTDoBU6KMY/j7sykwsh3272vty9j0y6xqmj3lab43jxq5pvx09.webp?scale=256)

Bandits killed over 50 persons in an attack on St. Francis Church in Owo, Southern Nigeria (TheNationOnlineEng.net, June 5).

Apart from worshippers, the bandits also killed passerby hit by stray bullets. The attack occurred during the Sunday Eucharist.

The witnesses said the gunmen stormed the church during service and started shooting. Explosives were also detonated by the gunmen inside premises of the church.

#newsKkbeqzefev (https://gloria.tv/hashtag/newsKkbeqzefev)

Each a martyr?
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: josefamenendez on June 05, 2022, 03:35:11 PM
Father Scott is in Nigeria- I wonder if he is close to this
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: Stubborn on June 05, 2022, 03:47:46 PM
Each a martyr?
The picture is that of a NO table, the article said "The attack occurred during the Sunday Eucharist" so it seems improbable that it happened at the true Mass, which is to say that it is very likely the sacrilegious practice of communion in the hand was going on at a NO service at the time of the attack.

I always thought being told as a kid that we don't want to get caught dead in a NO was only a figure of speech, so I might be mistaken, but I do not see how we can say that they are martyrs.
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: SeanJohnson on June 05, 2022, 03:50:04 PM
According to this report, the incident started inside the church in order to make people flee, and then they were gunned down once they exited the church by militants who were waiting:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ASyfsu6FYEc
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: Nadir on June 05, 2022, 06:57:09 PM
Each a martyr?
No! More is usually required to impute martyrdom than being shot during Mass.
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: epiphany on June 05, 2022, 07:43:53 PM
The picture is that of a NO table, the article said "The attack occurred during the Sunday Eucharist" so it seems improbable that it happened at the true Mass, which is to say that it is very likely the sacrilegious practice of communion in the hand was going on at a NO service at the time of the attack.

I always thought being told as a kid that we don't want to get caught dead in a NO was only a figure of speech, so I might be mistaken, but I do not see how we can say that they are martyrs.
I see there is no sanctuary lamp, so probably no real presence:
(https://i.imgur.com/o9IehWz.jpg)
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: SimpleMan on June 05, 2022, 07:52:37 PM
Now there's a church that needed an armed Usher's training program.


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But... but... but...  the rest of the world is always lecturing us, and tut-tutting us, for allowing responsible gun owners to bear arms for self-defense.  

I suppose, in their minds, when someone has you at gunpoint, you're just supposed to accept that your life has come to an end.

This is one reason that, as long as there are gun rights, I do not plan ever to leave the United States to live somewhere else.  (I almost did in my thirties.)  Flawed as this country is, as bogus as its founding was, it is the only country in the world where, according to its own Constitution, bearing arms is an a priori unalienable right.  There are also some states I would not live in either.
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: epiphany on June 05, 2022, 07:54:20 PM
No! More is usually required to impute martyrdom than being shot during Mass.
three conditions must be verified for martyrdom: a) actual death; b) the infliction of death by an enemy out of hatred for Christianity. c) the voluntary acceptance of death.

Since we don't know if "c" occurred, perhaps they are and perhaps they are not.
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: Nadir on June 05, 2022, 08:22:46 PM
Father Scott is in Nigeria- I wonder if he is close to this
Pretty close. 41 min (30.8 km) From Owo to Enugu.
Title: Re: 50 Killed During Mass
Post by: Integralism1234 on June 05, 2022, 09:22:44 PM
We must be prepared for the day when the powers that be kill Christians at Mass in America. The dementist and his tranny sidekick want to make it a felony to worship the Living God. It will soon be illegal.