Friends, a poster in another thread wrote the following. I offer my response. Feel free to weigh in.
P.S.: Calling homosexuals sodomites is not accurate either because the term sodomite has several meanings none of which is synonymous with homosexual. I urge you to consult your dictionary next time before you display your ignorance like that.
Wrongo bongo. Sodomite
is the word traditionally applied to those who commit those perverse sins related to the perversion of what we now call homosexuality (or more usually, amid today's breakdown, being gay
- what horrible abuse this formerly cheerful little word has suffered!), thus sodomy
is traditionally specified as a category of the sins that cry out to heaven for vengeance. (You're unaware of such sins? Look into it.)
The word homosexuality
is a modern invention. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the first recorded use of the word homosexuality
in English was recorded in 1892. It occurs in Richard Freiherr von Krafft-Ebbing's book Psychopathia Sexualis
, translated from the German by one C.G. Chaddock. The entry in the OED reads:
1892 C. G. CHADDOCK tr.Krafft-Ebing's Psychopathia Sexualis III. 185 (heading) Great diminution or complete absence of sexual feeling for the opposite sex, with substitution of sexual feeling and instinct for the same sex. (Homo-sexuality, or contrary sexual instinct.)
Yes, jllsjlls, I urge you to consult your dictionary next time before you display your ignorance like that. Look into it, and you'll find that, indeed, sodomite
is the word traditionally used in English to designate those who commit those abominable sins related their perverted attractions. (And please notice that, unlike the watered-down new Catechism of the Catholic Church
, I said perverted
, not disordered
Speaking of which, the fondness you've indicated for the new Catechism of the Catholic Church
indicates that you've been heavily processed by the NewChurch. The idea that there could actually be things fundamentally wrong
with the new Catechism seems outrageous, foreign, utterly alien to you. And so I again urge you to study this: The New Catechism....Is It Catholic?
Understand: Part of the evil of the NewChurch processing you've received is that you haven't sufficiently learned to hate. This seems an astonishing thing to say, I know. But you don't have a deep hatred, a holy hatred, for sin. You've heard a lot about (false) love and (false) compassion, but very little of holy hate. This is why you prefer watered-down words like homosexual
- and you probably even prefer gay
- instead of unvarnished words like fag
. In accord with the Orwellianism of the NewChurch, to take the edge off, you prefer to use the most morally neutral, distorting language possible. I won't participate in this whitewashing. Join me. Behold:
"[H]ave no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For the things that are done by them in secret, it is a shame even to speak of" (Eph. 5:11-12). "Do not be mismated with unbelievers. For what partnership have righteousness and iniquity? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever?" (2 Cor. 6:14-15). "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercy of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, pleasing unto God, your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world; but be reformed in the newness of your mind, that you may prove what is the good, and the acceptable, and the perfect will of God" (Rom. 12:1-2). "Do not love the world or the things in the world. If any one loves the world, love for the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the pride of life, is not of the Father but is of the world" (1 Jn. 2:15-16). "Adulterers, know you not that the friendship of this world is the enemy of God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of this world, becometh an enemy of God" (Jam. 4:4). "And all that will live godly in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution" (2 Tim. 3:12).
"'If we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him' (Rom. 6:
. To be dead with Christ, is to hate and turn from sin; and to live with Him, is to have our hearts and minds turned towards God and Heaven. To be dead to sin, is to feel a disgust at it. We know what is meant by disgust...."
-John Henry Newman, http://www.newmanreader.org/works/parochial/volume7/sermon13.html
"A man says to himself, 'How am I to know I am in earnest?' I would suggest to him, Make some sacrifice, do some distasteful thing, which you are not actually obliged to do, (so that it be lawful,) to bring home to your mind that in fact you do love your Saviour, that you do hate sin, that you do hate your sinful nature, that you have put aside the present world."
-John Henry Newman, http://www.newmanreader.org/works/parochial/volume1/sermon5.html
"To be holy is, in our Church's words, to have 'the true circumcision of the Spirit;' that is, to be separate from sin, to hate the works of the world, the flesh, and the devil; to take pleasure in keeping God's commandments; to do things as He would have us do them; to live habitually as in the sight of the world to come, as if we had broken the ties of this life, and were dead already. Why cannot we be saved without possessing such a frame and temper of mind?...."
-John Henry Newman, http://www.newmanreader.org/works/parochial/volume1/sermon1.html
Christian, would'st thou learn to love?
First learn thee how to hate.
Hatred of sin and zeal and fear
Lead up the Holy Hill;
Track them, till charity appear
A self-denial still.
-John Henry Newman, http://www.newmanreader.org/biography/jafroude.html
Do I not hate them that hate thee, O Lord?
And do I not loathe them that rise up against thee?
I hate them with perfect hatred;*
I count them my enemies.
-Psalm 139 (RSV) (138, Douay-Rheims) : 21-22
*Note, Douay-Rheims, Challoner: "Not with an hatred of malice, but a zeal for the observance of God's commandments; which he saw were despised by the wicked, who are to be considered enemies to God."
"He who is not with me is against me, and he who does not gather with me scatters."
-God, Mt. 12:30
Such is the Church Militant. Join it.