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Offline Disputaciones

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"Cult of the body"
« on: August 09, 2016, 07:57:54 PM »
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  • Do the ones who say this say that it is bad to appreciate bodily beauty?


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    « Reply #1 on: August 10, 2016, 06:44:24 AM »
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  • I think you'll need to provide some context.  I've not heard this phrase used, at least, I don't recall hearing or seeing it.  How is the term being used?  By whom?  


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    "Cult of the body"
    « Reply #2 on: August 10, 2016, 08:41:08 AM »
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  • I first saw it here in the thread about the SSPX seminarian being like in the movie Platoon.

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    The culture was different too. We were permitted one shower a week. The effect of this was compounded by a ban on any artificial scents. In the stalls, during prayer, we knelt in each other’s stench. This was especially distressing to me as I was an athlete: exercise meant sweating, which meant showering. So I stopped exercising, save on shower day. I felt gross and disgusting and this depressed me. I lost my robust health, and this depressed me. I couldn’t understand how young men could be fine with only a soccer game or a hike twice a week. When I asked my fellow seminarians about this, they chanted in unison, “Cult of the body! Cult of the body!” It was shocking that basic hygiene and youthful exuberance was dismissed as evil self-indulgence. All this talk of charity – in my mind, charity towards your neighbour starts with a bath.


    But I have also seen it used against bodily beauty, even in pre-V2 books, although not the exact phrase but the same meaning.

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    "Cult of the body"
    « Reply #3 on: August 10, 2016, 10:03:35 AM »
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    But I have also seen it used against bodily beauty, even in pre-V2 books, although not the exact phrase but the same meaning.


    You might have seen a similar phrase, but the meaning is not the same. "Cult of body" is not reached by basic hygiene and grooming or reasonable exercise. To say otherwise is a Puritanical view and heretical.

    Real "cult of body" is reached when people obsess over and keep littering their bodies with tattoos or piercings ... or they spend 5 hours a day in the gym to sculpt that "perfect" body ... or they spend so much time looking at themselves in the mirror critiquing every inch of their body ... or they get plastic surgery or body modification for reasons of vanity (not health-assisting) ... or they wear immodest clothing in public to show off their bodies ... etc.
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    « Reply #4 on: August 10, 2016, 11:10:36 AM »
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  • Different people have different needs as far as exercise and physical movement.  Some people have mental energy (for studying), some physical energy (they need to move) and some a combo.  It sounds like this seminarian, especially considering he was young, needed more exercise.  It's not wrong, just how God made him.


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    « Reply #5 on: August 10, 2016, 11:33:24 AM »
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  • I actually realised that what i was thinking about had nothing to do with what i actually asked here, because i didn't think it through before making the thread, only later.

    I have asked Matthew to delete the thread; sorry to all.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 10, 2016, 12:22:13 PM »
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    We were permitted one shower a week.


    This might work in a cold climate and with no physical activity, or if you are in France where everyone stinks, but in the Tropics, you need to take a bath every day.
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    « Reply #7 on: August 10, 2016, 12:31:59 PM »
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    But I have also seen it used against bodily beauty, even in pre-V2 books, although not the exact phrase but the same meaning.


    You might have seen a similar phrase, but the meaning is not the same. "Cult of body" is not reached by basic hygiene and grooming or reasonable exercise. To say otherwise is a Puritanical view and heretical.

    Real "cult of body" is reached when people obsess over and keep littering their bodies with tattoos or piercings ... or they spend 5 hours a day in the gym to sculpt that "perfect" body ... or they spend so much time looking at themselves in the mirror critiquing every inch of their body ... or they get plastic surgery or body modification for reasons of vanity (not health-assisting) ... or they wear immodest clothing in public to show off their bodies ... etc.


    I think I may have used the phrase "cult of the body" in my explanation of why I will not be watching the Olympics. What I had in mind when I used the phrase was exactly what you have written, ascent.